Traditional Archery Discussions on the Leatherwall


self bow draw weight vs glass backed

Messages posted to thread:
joe vt 17-Jun-22
Altitude Sickness 17-Jun-22
Orion 17-Jun-22
fdp 17-Jun-22
Jeff Durnell 17-Jun-22
Orion 17-Jun-22
Viper 17-Jun-22
joe vt 17-Jun-22
PEARL DRUMS 17-Jun-22
Brian waters 17-Jun-22
Runner 17-Jun-22
George Tsoukalas 17-Jun-22
scp 18-Jun-22
Arvin 18-Jun-22
bradsmith2010santafe 19-Jun-22
From: joe vt
Date: 17-Jun-22




I realize that if I had a scale I could test this out but I don't.

In general, does a self bow feel like having a heavier draw weight than a glass bow?

From: Altitude Sickness
Date: 17-Jun-22




No

From: Orion Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 17-Jun-22




Not if it's the appropriate length for the draw length and is tillered correctly.

However, generally, because a self bow will tend to follow the string a little, and given that few are built with as much set back and or r/d as a glass laminated bow, the draw force curve will be different. A self-bow will start with less tension and build it faster as one comes to full draw vis-a-vis most class laminated bows. This could make it feel heavier to some.

From: fdp
Date: 17-Jun-22




No. But why would one think that?

From: Jeff Durnell
Date: 17-Jun-22




No. That feel is mostly the product of design factors that affect the force draw curve. When a selfbow and a glass bow have the same draw weight and the same fdc, they feel like they draw the same.

From: Orion Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 17-Jun-22




I should add, that if you compare a self bow that has string follow to a string follow glass laminated bow, depending on how close the string follow between the two is to begin with, the draw force curve will be almost identical,

From: Viper
Date: 17-Jun-22




joe -

I think you're asking about the draw force curve or rather stacking. In that case, it definitely depends. A 50# bow @ 28" is a 50# bow 28". but how they "feel" getting there can be a totally different story.

Viper out.

From: joe vt
Date: 17-Jun-22




Thank you for the replies.

The draw on my Osage self bow has early draw weight tension and continues. It's length is 62" I normally draw 28" but it may be short some because of this tension. The tips are steamed bent to combat any string follow (r/d design). Maybe its marked wrong.

I was just curious; thanks again.

From: PEARL DRUMS
Date: 17-Jun-22




It sure can, that's with several variables involved.

From: Brian waters
Date: 17-Jun-22




Hell yes it can, depending on the glass bows design, the length and design of the selfbow. I shoot an ilf rig with uukhas, the draw and feel at the shot is heaven in my hands. I was gifted a selfbow, which i plan to hunt with for said reason. At the same draw weight, it feels like pulling a load of bricks, works my muscles like im not used to. Different design, and different materials= totally differnt feel and reaction.

From: Runner
Date: 17-Jun-22




Design is the main factor in how the bow feels.

From: George Tsoukalas
Date: 17-Jun-22




The draw weight would be the same, However, a bow, self or FG, that has a high early draw weight would store more energy. This happens if a bow is reflexed or recurved. Jawge

From: scp
Date: 18-Jun-22




For the same draw weight, Osage Orange bows feel rather smooth like glass bows. Hickory bows feel stiffer at first. Black locust bows feel even stiffer. The design matters of course, but it appears that the material matters as well.

From: Arvin
Date: 18-Jun-22




Just build a 67” pyramid and it will be as good as any glass bow period. That’s my opinion. It will shoot as fast to. Just flip the tips a couple inches. Arvin

From: bradsmith2010santafe
Date: 19-Jun-22




if it pulls 55, at full draw, that is the weight you will feel,,





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