I found an arrow with a nock I have never seen before, can anyone Identify it? As you can see it fits a parallel undercut on the shaft instead of a 11 degree taper. I'm assuming its from the late 1940's to 1950's. Bob

Maybe by shape of the outside it could be a Stotler mid nock. Years ago I bought some but they had the 11° taper.

Can't identify it ,but its pretty cool

Ive never seen a Mid nock without a taper. Interesting.

I don't know what it is, but it's interesting.

I have a few like that also but like you have no idea who manufactured them. Lance

looks like a straight walled mid-nock. Is that plastic or bone? I have some just like it made out of aluminum.

I had some. Probably still do. Came to me on several old arrows of unknown age. Mine are, or were, red.

That is a smart idea from way back. Just shape the end glue it on and it is parallel and centered. At least that is how it appears to me.

Yellah: Yep, if everything is in line with the axis of the shaft, JUST LIKE a nock that's tapered.

Bob

Quick! Mark the calendar. Bob Burton is stumped!!!

We're all doomed!

I have some old Mid-Nox that look like that one. I believe they're tapered, but I'll check to make sure.

I have seen glue on knocks & points like that, with no taper in a Chinese archery catalog. >>>----> Ken

3Rivers actually sells parallel glue on nocks in either 5/16 or 11/32 made by I believe Top Hat.

They don't have that tapered Stotler look though and they don't require the shaft to be altered. The just glue over the end of the shaft

And they are only available in 2 colors.

Here is the link to them;

https://www.3riversarchery.com/tophat-parallel-nocks.html

Ira: Thanks! I'm beginning to think, they might be an early predecessor of the Easton mid-nock. Wish I had an extra, I would touch a match to it to see if it's made of the same plastic. If the ones you have are parallel can you spare one!

Frank: These are way earlier than anything 3 Rivers would have, I'm thinking 40-50's possibly earlier.

Bob

Twenty some odf years ago when my sons were just beginning to shoot a light bow I had ordered some quarter inch shafts and nocks to go with them. When they arrived it turned out the nocks had a straight wall like that and they just slipped over the end of the shaft with no tapering required. I think I had order them from 3Rivers at the time.

"These are way earlier than anything 3 Rivers would have, I'm thinking 40-50's possibly earlier."

I completely agree. I've been looking through some of my stuff because I'm thinking that at one point Stotler had a mid-nock that was made that way. But I haven't been able to find the ad yet.

Nothing new. They were just never popular. >>>----> Ken

I checked my stash of Mid-Nox and sorry Bob, all tapered.

Interesting info on the back of the box. Since they were available since 1930, I wonder if the early versions were straight walled.

Here is an interesting blurb about Mid-Nox.

https://eastonarchery.com/2022/04/100-years-of-easton-the-mid-nox- story/

Frank: I tried your link, it wouldn't work. Bob

Bob, I just tried the link and it worked for me. One those ominous messages about "page could not be found" popped up, but I clicked on the BLOG box at the top of the page and was able to access the article.

Interesting... First I've ever heard of Parallel Nocks... What kind of a tool peals the shaft to size?

fdp: interesting read on the mid nock. I learned that my aluminum nocks were made by Easton in the 1930's.

z-bone: It would be interesting to see the process to cut the shaft to not only fit the nock but field points also. I have many parallel field points and the crimping tool to attach them to the shaft.

Ira: thanks I found it.

Jon: the process of making the parallel under cut, is quite similar to using the pencil type taper tool. Instead of it making a taper, there are parallel cutting dies of various sizes, to cut the proper diameter and it also adjustable for length also. I will try to get a picture of my set and post it later.

Bob

Glad you got the link to work. It gave me trouble this morning as well.

Jon: Here is a pic of my tool. It has collets and cutters of verious sizes. hope it comes through.

Bob

I should have added more information; the cutters have indents on the sides that prevent it from turning during use. Notice the set screws on the body, the top one secures the shaft collet, the middle one holds the cutter in place and the bottom one adjusts the length of the tendon. they are really quite simple.

Bob

Glad you posted pics of the cutting blades Bob. I have 2 of them from the Hugh Rich stuff I inherited and didn't know what they were for. I kept them in case I ran across some info on what they were. Now I know.

I remember using them or like yours in the early 50's. I neve could never get them on straight, or the points either. But I was only 11 and I had arrows, hardware store dowels, and crow feathers.

Ira:

There should be some numbers on them, that's the size in thousands of an inch, what do you have?

Bob

Thanks Bob. Never seen them or their use.

Bob,

One is stamped 220 and the other 270.

Ira: Those are odd sizes, I've never seen them that small. I assume the .220 is for a 1/4" shaft, not sure about the .270.

Thanks

Bob

That cutter or one like it for field points would be great. Theses new target faces made from woven plastic material are a royal PIA to get arrows with any kind of lip like back of point out of target face. Of course points like the top hat would havr to be used.

You can do a 5 degree taper with a lip, so standard field points could be used.

Bob

Bob, will have to try that. That would beat trying to file down the lip on the point to make it flush. Ya, I tried that, ruined an arrow.

The .270 nock would be for 9/32 shafts would be my guess.

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