Hi FOLKS, Off the cuff about Metal Trade Points for Arrows? Who makes and sells? Anybody got photos? Do NOT forget the OLD WAYS! You might need them! GOOD HUNTING & BLESSED BE!

Here's a picture of some old tie on heads I had in my broadhead collection

This is a tie on I had made for the 1998 ABCC annual meeting

Billy Jack Pound head from NM early 90s

This is a more recent head that appears to have been die stamped. I had it listed as an "unknown"

I sure like those Billy Jack heads. What is the weight on them? >>>---> Ken

Abowyer has them on their website, I have some of them nice heads.

Abowyer single bevel chisel point 150gr

The Pound heads were about 150 gr. the sharpest head outside of razor blades.

I heat and beat grade 5 bolts to make these. They're 125 grains.

Few of mine.

That's some nice work Jeff.

Thanks Bob, I appreciate that. Those are some multiflora rose arrows I made many moons ago. Here's the other end.

Almost 20 years since I took those pictures. Still shooting that selfbow, no idea how many thousands of arrows it's shot, still holding it's shape and weight. It's a bit darker now.

This is an original trade point I came across near a fork in the Oregon Trail in sandy soil under a sagebrush. A local resident gave me his very educated and researched opinion about iron/steel projectiles, of which he had never found one:

"Lewis and Clark found metal points in common use among the Tetons (Sioux) in the Upper Great Plains in 1804, and later with the Lemhi Shoshones (closer to our area). The points may have been traded up the Missouri River from points east, or could have come from the north via the Hudson Bay Co.

"The style of point you have is called the single-notched tang type (one notch on each side of the stem rather than multiples). George Catlin, the artist, spent time in the northern plains with the Sioux in the 1830s and found that type of point common there at that time. James Hanson did a study of metal points from that same area and found the single-notched tang type to be the second most common style, just behind square - shouldered serrate stemmed points. Square-shouldered plain stems were third, diamond shaped points with long tapered, sharply serrate bases a distant 4th, and points with inverted shoulders in 5th place.

"At least two variants of your point style were found on the Custer battlefield, but most of the Indians there had guns...."

His personal opinion of the point above was: "I wrote the note before I saw your point. I'd think it was Indian-made but for the rounded notches. It is thin and flat as hoop-iron and I see no sign of sharpening. I'd still call it a single-notch variant as is, assuming the base isn't broken."

This is a long post, but I found it very interesting and historically informative.

Nice stuff guys! Jeff, that bow and those arrows are fantastic!

Nothing can top that. Thanks for photos.

I have some.Doug Campbell and Dean Torges trade points.

Other end

Lots of GREAT POINTS, ARROWS and INFO! Saving tons of the photos! Can we have some more pls? GOOD HUNTING & BLESSED BE!

Rivercane

Nice work, Mike. I know that Torges trade head. It's a good one. And some damacus? Is that one Doug's?

Yes Doug made the Damascus and I have a couple dozen of his regular trade points.Embarrassed to take them out of the arrow box for photo and see them rusty(they are unsharpened)

Here's a couple more of Dean Torges trade points on arrows made by Mickey Lotz the ferret.Also a stingray point.

I miss those guys and those days. Seems like a lifetime ago we were all here chewin that savory fat.

Sigh

I like snake skin crest also 4 nols only that bamboo has stone on the end.

Business end

Mickey only carried 1 arrow.We were at Banjo Hill getting ready and Mickey promptly slammed his arrow in the truck door I thought I was going to pass out laughing.Turns out he did have a spare..

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Nice job on those business ends, Jon.

http://traditionalarchery101.com/tieons.html

I do make them but don't sell them. Check my site. Jawge

Some real dynamite work here. This is the stuff as far as I'm concerned.

Always amazed at the ingenuity of fellow wallers.

Love Me some ARROWS! Saving the photos to DROOL over! GOOD HUNTING & BLESSED BE!

Ive made some from spoons and old coins.3rivers sells em pretty cheap

I always enjoy a visit to your site, George. It's kinda like getting the feet firmly back on the ground.

Talented People on The WALL! Constantly Amazed at the abilities that are shown! GOOD HUNTING & BLESSED BE!

George, thanks for the link to your site.

Thank you, my friends. I am glad you re using my site. Jawge

Don't stop NOW! MORE! MORE! GOOD HUNTING & BLESSED BE!

One of mine

Another view

Not trade points but pressure flaked these with an old screw driver.Sorry going off topic Osr

Not trade points but pressure flaked these with an old screw driver.Sorry going off topic Osr

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