Before I buy arrows to try where would you start with this set up. Two cut to center LB’s with D97 strings. 37&40@26 draw. I want the arrows 27”. GT Warrior shafts is what I want. I want 100 grain insert with 150 Stingers. 3-5” feathers. 600 or 700 spine? Thanks

700

So how close to center are the bows the way you are shooting them, not how they are built.

I'm guessing either one will tune depending on how experienced you are at tuning.

700

Fdp I have a thin calf hair shelf material on the shelf and window.

Any time I am tuning a bow I start with little or nothing on the side plate, pick a spine that matches the actual draw weight and the arrow length that I want to use.

Ideally the arrows will be weak because I can stiffen the dynamic spine by building out the side plate, decreasing point weight, cutting the arrow a little shorter, or adding morevfeather.

If an arrow is too stiff in the beginning you have fewer options for correcting dynamic spine.

But you are kind of upsetting the apple cart to a certain degree because you are going to have 50'ish% of the total arrow weight hanging on the front of the arrow. So it's pretty much a crap shoot.

I shoot 27" 700 Easton Carbon Tribute, 125gr point and 4" feathers from a modern KMag 37#@26". The extra 100 gr you are using should make them about right for a longbow of that weight range.

Sorry- I meant Carbon Legacy and these arrows weigh about 330gr as set up.

Anybody else

700

Is it mostly because of the short arrows that so many are saying 700?

I draw just under 28 and use 700s on a 35#er

Cutting a carbon shaft that short RADICALLY increases dynamic spine, far more then cutting an aluminum shaft.

Even with 250 up front?

Even with 250 up front?

Are the draw weights you mentioned what the bows are marked @28”, or are those what you actually get?

Just checking, but that’s first.

Assuming you’re talking actual poundage, I would probably go with the 700s, for all the reasons Frank listed. So many options for stiffening them up…

I shoot 600s with a 1.5” (2117) aluminum footing and 175 grains up front from bows in the #45-#48 range, but the same shafts shoot pretty well in the low #50s as well. At least with FPs. Mine are 27” of carbon with a 3/4” RPS insert hanging off the front inside of the footing, so around #8-#10 vs 75 grains… kinda puts you on the bubble, maybe?

My biggest concern - if I were thinking to hunt with that set-up - is that the all-up weight (at 330-ish?) is lower than anything I have ever messed with, so maybe Aluminum would get the nod?

Just use low-temp hot-melt and figure it out. Not like Warriors are prohibitively expensive, and you could easily tune a 700 at the same all-up weight as whatever 600 you want to hunt with, and then you have your practice set. Or you could trade them off for 600s… minus the spendy brass inserts, which you’d want to hold onto for the 600s.

Why cut the arrows to 27"? Leave them long and cut one arrow 1/2" at a time until tuned. I draw 26" and shoot full length arrows most of the time as they fly perfect.

Some of us like arrows that fit our DL.

If you want a 17.4 yard point-on with your 3-under, knock yourself out.

What Corax said. Some folks like their arrows a particular length.

Yes i do not like arrows sticking way past my hand

Corax_ some of us don't use the "point" of the arrow as a crude bow sight. I don't use any sight at all. If I wanted a bow sight, I would use one with adjustable pins. You do you.

The OP asked about choosing an arrow at a particular length shooting a particular weight at a particular draw length.

I'm guessing he isn't concerned at this time how anyone does or doesn't aim.

Thanks for the answers. Some answers to some questions, yes it is 40@26 and why 27” arrows? I dont want my arrows sticking way out. Its just hard for me to imagine 700 being the arrow but i guess at that short length with that tip weight they are ok. Will durability be a problem with 700?

"Will durability be a problem with 700?" no more or less so than a .500 or .600.

Why is it hard for you to imagine that a .700 would be the spine that works?

Here is a chart that shows you where the .700 falls in standard spine range.

The .700 falls in the 45-49lb. spine range at 58". When you cut it moves to the 54/55 to 59lb. spine range. If you have the sideplate built out to where the arrow is 1/16" before center then you add another spine range.

Thanks frank. Funny but if 700 is such a good spine for trad shooters you would think gold tip traditionals would have been offered in 700. 600 is the lowest. Warriors come in 700

Gold Tip doesn't focus on "traditional" shooters. The segment of archer that we participate in is a little bitty speck on the archery scene.

They offer what they offer and you either use it or not. And if we don't it will have absolutely no affect on their bottom line at all.

And add to that the fact that the still popular method of tuning carbon arrows (which is pretty archaic by the way) is to start with a spine that is too stiff and keep adding weight until it tunes, or to start with an overly long arrow and cut it until it tunes with little or no concern with how long it ends up.

Not that there is anything wrong with that, but that's not how everyone does it.

Frank just wondering how much tip weight would you guess to use a 600?

At what length arrow?

27

I would say at least 300, although some may disagree.

But like I said, when you hang that high a percentage of the overall weight on the front end of the arrow you can very easily start getting strange reactions from the arrow.

Got it. I ll get some 700s. Thanks

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