From: bishotuwa
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Date: 07-Mar-16 |
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This is the service i got, i made a deal with shon butler on the swap and trade. He was to make me a coyote hat and quiver for a black locust self bow, i finished the bow and mailed it in a pvc tube with end caps , sent it priorty mail insured for 500. When it arrived it appear to have been ran over by the truck it was split about 9"on 1 end end cap missing. I submitted a claim and i received it today, 37.50 . Cost of shipping and insurance 25.70, pvc 19.28, black locust stave 75.00. Math works out a negative 82.50 for my labor
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From: hvac tech
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Date: 07-Mar-16 |
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how is that right ? i guess the insurance was a joke no were near 500.00 i have heard that you never get the full amount but that sounds way wrong .
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From: Dry Bones
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Date: 07-Mar-16 |
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Sorry to hear it. But in my own observations, That's the current USPS situation all over. I was suppose to have two bows delivered here today. Tracking said they both left Dallas at 5:03 this morning. One was at the local post, while the other is??? MIA. I try not to use them any more then absolutely necessary. Is there any way to fight the ridiculously small amount of the insurance pay?
-Bones
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From: Skeets
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Date: 07-Mar-16 |
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Was that schedule 40 PVC or the lightweight stuff? I shipped a bow in the lightweight PVC and it made it ok. But I was worried after I shipped it. I'm using schedule 40 from now on. Although I received a Black Widow PLX that was packed in a cardboard box which luckily arrived in good condition.
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From: RymanCat
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Date: 07-Mar-16 |
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Whores! I told the post man today I been here 3 times inside when he has thrown down my packages at the front door. They really suck that's what the government is.
Not surprised one bit.
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From: Jakeemt
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Date: 07-Mar-16 |
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You can dispute the claim. That's insurance in general not just that post office. I love the post office never any problems. If you want some fun try getting fed ex to pay up. They are just as bad if not worse.
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From: Stickhead
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Date: 07-Mar-16 |
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I have a bow and a riser coming this week, I hope they amaze me!
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From: bishotuwa
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Date: 07-Mar-16 |
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Jakeemt u said u love em and said they or as bad as ups or fed ex dont understand, and yes im sending an appeal letter , i said if they couldnt make afair judgement they should change the name to uspostal scam divizion because their sure not a service, and these r suppose to be hard workin american people
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From: Gorbin
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Date: 07-Mar-16 |
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The USPS is the most amazing and dependable quazi-governmental agenecy on the planet. No one has delivered more, to as many, for as long, ever. Thank you Ben Franklin.
-Gorbin
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From: Jakeemt
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Date: 07-Mar-16 |
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Bish-you just have to understand the insurance game. If you want real results don't send nasty letters. Remember there are bums that try and scam all insurance agency's. The post office is probably under written by an actual agency. Try to send them reciepts from your stave, examples of similar bows that are worth what you believe your bow is and have sold, reciepts from other bows you may have sold for a similar price (if you have), before and after images of the bow post and pre damage, estimates for build times and labor costs. The more info you can send the better. A) it gives the paper pushers less outs B) it makes you seem more legitimate. Always be polite but, firm.
The postal service is amazing. For 10 bucks you can ship a dozen arrows across the country and have it arrive in a few days. They ship hundreds of thousand of packages a day so mistakes are bound to happen. I have personally shipped atleast 100 packages via the post office. Worst I have had happen is one got lost and showed up 2 weeks later no harm no foul and one got damaged. I sent them the manufactures cost for a replacement part and was refunded in full but, yeah it did take awhile and I had to stay on it with pictures emails ect. That's a 98% success rate. Show many any other gov. Agency or even private agency that does that well. Remember they do not know you from Adam and will always protect them selves against fraud and being taken advantage of.
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From: Dry Bones
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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Just to validate my opinion of the post. My papa was a post master for several years, a carrier way long before that, and retired from the postal service. That was a different time and business was conducted. Now it's a JOKE. In my experience Fed-ex and UPS are not any more expensive and around here are better people. Our local delivery man for the postal service is a really good older gent. But I personally believe he is the exception. Not the rule. I wish you well in your claim.
-Bones
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From: Bowlim
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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Been getting stuff from the US via USPS since the early 70s, only lost one book, and I don't even know it was when it was in their care.
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From: JamesV
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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My postal agent advised me to never buy insurance. Those round tubes roll off the conveyors and baggage trucks and get destroyed more than boxes. If you must use a tube put it inside a box to be safe.
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From: Stalker
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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JamesV nailed it!
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From: 4nolz@work
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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Insuring a black locust selfbow for $500 doesn't make it worth $500 but it still stinks it got damaged.
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From: nrthernrebel05
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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I have mailed at least 500 packages (just 4 were bows) and received 100's (7 bows) and have only had 1 or 2 problems. I think they do a good job almost every time. Sorry to hear you had so much trouble. UPS doesn't even come close in price.
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From: bowjack
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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I also put bows I ship in round tubes inside a box so they don't roll off a conveyer. I've shipped and received hundreds of bows thru USPS. Had a couple of close calls but never lost or had one damaged.
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From: Leathercutter
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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USPS a great way to go. When you leave your package, YOU get a tracking number, YOU can follow the package all the way. Try it. A lot of mail goes through the office and yes sometimes bad things take place, how come we never hear of the good ones. A lot of cars (ex. Ford) are made too and some time a bad one causes death, but we don't hear of the other cars. Don't blame the govt. for a office that is not govt.
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From: mangonboat
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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x 5 about tubes. A reinforced cardboard box costs no more to ship than a flimsy one of the same dimensions. The pvc tubes are a PIA for the USPS or the private parcel services to deal with...if you go to Fed Ex, UPS or USPC and ask for a "tube" to send rolled up blueprints, plans, maps...you get a triangular box.
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From: Stykman
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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Nothing is perfect. Have always had good luck with the USPS.
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From: pockets
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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Over the past 20 years I have shipped thousands of packages via USPS. Sure, a very small percentage failed to reach their destinations...but the vast majority were delivered without issue. Wish I could have that sort of reliable service from the drive-up window at McDonald's!
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From: Jon Stewart
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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Last week I mailed a longbow in a 4" carpet tube. The bow was bubble wrapped and I cut 1" thick circles for the ends of the tubes and screwed them into the ends so the ends would not be so easy to crush. This cost me around $15.00 from Michigan to Texas. Package got there fine in 3 days with no damage.
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From: nomo
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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Part of the problem with the USPS is that they are not really gonmnt at all. They are a private industry contracted by the US gvmnt. There isn't really any way to touch them. The little white semis you see that say US Mail on them are US mail. The ones with the funky eagle logo is the private business trucks. Just like the Federal Reserve is not US money, but private banksters and the IRS is their collection arm. All the "money" in circulation is loaned to the US govmnt by the Fed. at interest.
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From: Arrowflinger
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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I prefer to use USPS. I have received and sent A lot of packages without a problem. Received a bow last weekend with no problem. I had one package sent to me a few weeks ago was shipped priority. It took over two weeks to receive that one. Don't know why the delay. It was in good shape when I got it. The Postal service handles thousands of packages a day. No one is perfect. with that much to deal with things are going to happen on occasion. Make sure it is wrapped and packaged good. And don't use a round tube.....
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From: jimwright
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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My experience with the USPS shipping and receiving traditional bows and fly rods on many dozens of occasions has been excellent. The lone exception was when the tip of a bow was damaged beyond repair. I had sent the bow as always, Priority/Insured for full replacement cost, had the bowyer confirm it on paper and my claim was settled for that amount. I have often said and I'll repeat it, if you think you're unhappy with the Post Office try the alternative for awhile.
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From: Catsailor
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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They can't be trusted. I dealt with their Black Ops division to smuggle bows undetected into my house. I didn't know our mail carrier was a double agent. I executed my covert operation and got the bow into my house undetected. Later my wife asked how I liked my new bow. I said what makes you think I bought a new bow? She said the mail lady told me.
Other than the betrayal I've had good luck with USPS. My only real complaint is there tracking system stinks.
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From: kadbow
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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I have shipped and received a lot of bows over the years using USPS and only had one problem. A bow I received was damaged. I filed the insurance paperwork and received the full value of the bow in a timely manner. Only complaint I have is the cost to ship a bow these days.
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From: Jon Stewart
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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It is going to happen. Not all workers are created equal. But I believe in over packaging when I mail out.
I help open an archery range on a Marine base at ,Camp Hansen, Afganistan a few years ago. I mailed out two custom made longbows to a Marine Lt who was my contact for the range. I made sure they were packaged right and they got there, in a war zone, without a problem. And the arrows and target made it safely as well.
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From: Jacques Bonin
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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Here you go! This is the first time this tube was used to send a bow! The bow surprisingly came through unscathed!
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From: Orion
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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I agree with Gorbin. "The USPS is the most amazing and dependable quazi- governmental agenecy on the planet. No one has delivered more, to as many, for as long, ever. Thank you Ben Franklin."
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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Never had any issues over hundreds of transactions. I just sent a bow to Seattle. Mailed it Saturday and it was there Monday, no issues, and the cost was $24.00 for a 64" bow. You guys must have some bad locals is all I can say. I've been sending and receiving bows for decades now and never even came near the horror stories you talk about. Now FedEx...yes. I've got three bows via FedEx over all these years and two packages were broken open. No damage to the bows though.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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I'm also a believer that round packages are problematic to begin with. The won't ride a conveyor...the can roll around in shipment, etc. I never use tubes for any bow, indcluding longbows. I just cover the ends so they can't penetrate the package and mail in cardboard. And PVC is both round and heavy, a combination asking for problems.
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From: Muttly
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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They seem to be slipping a little lately. Don't know if they haven't caught up from Christmas yet, or what the deal is. Live on an island, get most of my stuff mail order. Up until about a month before Christmas, figure about a week, for most things. Since then, stuff seems to sit a black hole in Washington, and sit there a week before moving north again.
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From: trad47
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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I never had a problem with USPS, ever.. I have shipped and received custom bows, arrows , fly rods, expensive reels all these years. Not one problem, not one lost or damaged package. Of course, I pay insurance and tracking etc. But no problems for me. They, postal workers are straight forward and hardworking people and deserve ever penny they earn. I have had screw ups with FedEx nothing damaged but lost.
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From: Eric Krewson
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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I have a book of sales receipts, when I ship a bow for any reason I fill out a sales receipt with my company name (ES Krewson Wood Bows), a description of the bow, the price including shipping and mark the bill "paid in full" with the date.
I put the sales receipt along with form letter of how to correctly take care of a wood bow in an envelope, wrap it around the handle and tape it so it can't get lost. I make it all look very professional.
All my insurance claims to the USPS have gone through without a hitch because of my sales receipt.
If the bow is a freeby it still gets a sales receipt for the actual cost I would sell a similar bow for, no inflated pricing for an insurance claim.
My only claims were for actual sales, no claims have been filed on the freebies so far. I have shipped at least 75 bows and only had one or two that didn't make it intact.
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From: Tracker
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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Never had an issue with USPS but I shipped some obsidian yesterday and the lady grabs, holds it shoulder height and says "what would you do if I dropped this?" I said cry. She said okay well packages can fall off conveyors at any time so if it's not packaged well enough for falls or accidents then it's the packagers fault. Nearly told her I'd just drive it to Tennessee myself.
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From: RymanCat
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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When I finally get a bow back and box I am going to go to JP and file another claim since it intiated on a local level and PO took my insurance money then denied claim. See what generates from that.
Anyone have the number for Post master generals office. I looked on line and found no phone numbers they want correspondence from internet. I want and need to talk to someone live.
Got to be some type of advocacy we can get help from about the PO and how poor they run especially in my town.
If you don't ship much you won't experience just how bad they might be.
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From: straight as wood
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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the folks at the post office are great! rain, or shine they're out there. i once got a letter from a friend in africa that only had my name and the city i lived in. when my son was in afghanistan they bent over backwards to help me get stuff to him. every carrier in our neighborhood's been friendly and professional.
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From: swarbt119
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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In my personal experience, USPS Priority mail is the best delivery service I have ever used. I ship all my bows that way. That being said I will only purchase insurance if its requested, or if I'm trading and the other party purchases it, I feel guilty if I don't... I have filed a couple claims in the past myself, and even with receipts for everything, never paid off. Its a total money maker for the Post Office. I buy, sell, and trade bows all the time and they are still the best as far as I am concerned.
Derek
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From: olddogrib
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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There you have it gentleman, I rest my case. Your unfortunate testimonials are all proof that bows should never be sold. They must be kept and cherished....or it brings down the bad juju!
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From: Bob Rowlands
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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Some good critical thinking on problems that might occur shipping a heavy round tube.
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From: limbwalker
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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I have had darn good luck with USPS over the years, usually shipping priority mail, even internationally.
Only recently did they lose an item and I had no recourse, but that was the fault of one single rural route carrier and I don't hold the whole outfit responsible for the stupidity of one single person.
More often than not, the fault is my own.
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From: olddogrib
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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I just shipped a string(the weight of air)on the swap thread for $7 and it arrived intact. I can't figure out how the USPS can charge those rates, deny/short the damage claims and still be operating in the red! Anybody want to partner up and we'll submit a bid to take it private. The postal union gets kicked to the curb, employees will have to work for real-world wages, they won't get Martha Washington's birthday off, and we'll make billions....and the Donald will be begging for our endorsement! Or we can compete with the Bern, double everybody's wages, give them everyday off and everything ships for free...and the 1% can pay for it!
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From: WV Mountaineer
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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Private mail carriers don't have a problem making profit or delivering what they take in as shipment. At least not around here.
It is no doubt a regional thing. Something everyone should be aware of by now. So, flopping off about how the OP should be agreeable is stupid. I wander what all you do gooders would be like had you made that bow from your own hands.? I'm betting you wouldn't appreciate the same as you have given.
As far as unknowing, I guess I am. I'm a guy that handles business by his word. If things don't go right I make it right. That's the way honest people are. Why anyone would suggest you were ignorant for wanting the service you paid for is beyond me. It shows ignorance on their part in my opinion.
The USPS is what it is. A jack of all trades that gets a C for effort. Any private business would get the same. No need to get lost in the history of it. Just look at the facts of it and allow your fellow Leatherwall'er to do the same. They say what goes around, comes around. I imagine they are right too.
God Bless
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From: jimwright
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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Richard, if you are curious how they can be operating in the red, take a look at the "Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act" passed by the lame duck Congress of 2006. It forced the USPS to prefund it's retirement program for the next 75 years over a 10 year period. It's something no government or private agency has ever been required to do before.
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From: jimwright
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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Richard, if you are curious how they can be operating in the red, take a look at the "Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act" passed by the lame duck Congress of 2006. It forced the USPS to prefund it's retirement program for the next 75 years over a 10 year period. It's something no government or private agency has ever been required to do before.
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From: olddogrib
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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It does sound like a bit of overreach, but at least somebody is taking their pension obligations seriously. But that's easier to do if you got a basic monopoly on the business and the taxpayer on the hook for any shortfall. If it had been the private sector, they'd overhaul their benefits package and replace pensions that you worked your entire career for with the "pay your own way plan". Then force everyone to take early retirement and carefully tailor the demographic based on corporate attorney's recommendations to thinly veil that it's really age discrimination. Bottom line, this will be the most important election this country has ever faced and I haven't heard a single, serious proposal from any SOB(or DOB) on either side of the aisle!
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From: jimwright
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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Richard, this legislation was not driven by any concern over pension obligations and the USPS certainly has no monopoly on the business nor does it receive any tax dollars. To me the obvious purpose is to hamstring the USPS financially and eventually bring it into the "privatization" camp. Concerning politics I'm with you, the real thing has become more of a joke than the comedians trying to mock it.
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From: fdp
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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If you paid $7.00 to ship a bowstring you didn't ship it standard rate first off.
If you think that Postal worker's make a lot of money, you should probably do some research on the average salary of Postal workers. And even if adding the value of Federal benefits it still isn't extravagant. It's easy to find
If you can find better, more consistent service I'd use it. I shipped flies all over the United States for years. Never had more than a hand full of issues in all that time. And yes, I tried all the other delivery services.
The Post office machinery is made to work with well flattish packages, as is the machinery of most other delivery services. Use a piece of inexpensive vinyl raingutter to ship bows in.
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From: fdp
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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And Shawn I don't doubt that a person who had been there that long was making that much, and they should. But that's not the starting wage, and it isn't the average. They mostly pay their own retirement, very similar to working for a State agency.
In the part of Texas that I live in rural carriers actually start at about $17.00 per hour. No it's not bad, but it's not extravagant either.
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From: Dry Bones
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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One of the longbows I picked up from the post office today, they did not even try to deliver, package was busted up pretty bad and the end torn off. No noticeable damage to the bow, fortunately. Same style tube as Jacques.
-Bones
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From: Bob Rowlands
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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The post office has likely taken a huge income hit with electronic communication. When was the last time you guys got a bonafide letter from someone? All we get is junk mail and bills, and Christmas cards. Nowhere near as many as twenty years ago though.
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From: olddogrib
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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Just to set the record straight, the USPS is my preferred shipping method and nothing else even comes close. I've never had a bad experience or damaged merchandise either. I do spring for Priority in most cases, but that's my choice and it gives me and the destination piece of mind. It would be nice to be advised when flat rate would be a cheaper alternative, as I'm sure I've made that mistake many times. I didn't mean to imply that the PO is on "my list". Most of my comments were a feeble attempt at a little levity...God knows we're all going to need it between now and November! I've been a fan of less government forever, no matter who was in the WH. If you're not a bit liberal when you're 17, you probably need a heart...if you aren't staunchly conservative by the time you're 35, you definitely need a head...and I'm way past 35, lol!
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From: Slick
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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Kenneth I feel for ya bro,its happened to me to many times.
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From: Bob W.
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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USPS all the way, hundreds of transactions and no damaged or lost bows or arrows. The tracking or lack of has caused a few ulcers but the merchandise always gets there.
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From: motherlode
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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I've sent and recieved everything from live birds to bows , never had a issue.
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From: Mike Mecredy
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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Round tubes roll off conveyors and such. I used to think round tubes were a good idea, but round rolls. Now if a customer insists I use a PVC tube, I will but I put the whole thing in a long square carton. Because square doesn't roll.
(1200 + bows shipped USPS, never had to issue an insurance claim)
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From: 4nolz@work
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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Are tubes more expensive than square boxes? I just mailed a bow tube and it was $31 insured priority mail-more than I remember!
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From: oldhunter1942
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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I never have had a problem with the USPS but I do go to the extreme on packing things, better safe than sorry.
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From: Jon Stewart
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Date: 08-Mar-16 |
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4 nolzs it's is all about weight and size. If you measure too much length, height and width you pay an over size fee plus the postage costs.
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From: WV Mountaineer
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Date: 09-Mar-16 |
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Unbelievable. The employee's at my local USPS office have "lost" a chain saw bar I ordered. It started with showing in transit until yesterday. Was supposed to be delivered the 3rd of March ironically. When I started pressuring them about it on Monday, they said it was on the truck to be delivered. Now, they say it is lost and can't be found. They now have it listed as a non deliverable address on tracking!
This is the 4TH!!!!!!!! time this has happened in as many years. From arrows, wool pants, to now this. In case you were wondering what this has to do with archery. It has been the same procedure every time. I guess it could have been in a round tube that rolled right off the conveyor to be lost forever. I doubt it though, since an identical bar arrived a week and a half ago from the EXACT same seller in a BOX. Whom I trust and have bought off of before. Yep, it's definitely mine or his fault. And, I have zero reason for being unhappy with the great service they provided here.
In my opinion, it's the sticky fingers and intentional disregard for your packages, causing the problems instead of the conveyors.
I didn't post this for advice on how to handle it. Trust me, I've got that process down pat. I will get my bar f I push this. However, the aggravating part of it for me is knowing it will come at he expense of the seller. Who is blameless here. It had good enough address to make it to Princeton Post office. From Michigan. So, how is it it went from on my local truck to be delivered, to lost, to being listed as a non deliverable address? Fella's, this is getting real old real fast.
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From: bishotuwa
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Date: 09-Mar-16 |
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I talked to the postman at the local office, he gave me a number of a supervisor at the distrubution terminal . She gave me this info and advice, items are discharged off of sorting conveyors into bins if ur item is one of the first off all items therafter would be falling on ur item the weight for this process can be rather heavy her recommended advice would be to use pvc then bubble wrap then use a larger pvc outer shell, i think thats just to get more $, i really think u challeng em by a well packed item
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From: bishotuwa
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Date: 09-Mar-16 |
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I talked to the postman at the local office, he gave me a number of a supervisor at the distrubution terminal . She gave me this info and advice, items are discharged off of sorting conveyors into bins if ur item is one of the first off all items therafter would be falling on ur item the weight for this process can be rather heavy her recommended advice would be to use pvc then bubble wrap then use a larger pvc outer shell, i think thats just to get more $, i really think u challeng em by a well packed item
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From: Jakeemt
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Date: 10-Mar-16 |
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Lol you shipped a string for 7$? I just put two bow strings n an envelope put two stamps on it and shipped it. Price about 1 dollar.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 10-Mar-16 |
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""So, how is it it went from on my local truck to be delivered, to lost, to being listed as a non deliverable address? Fella's, this is getting real old real fast."" That is a question to ask your "local" post office. Like blaming Ford motors for the local shop messing up your car while doing routine maintenance.
Sure there are mishaps. Tell me any other entity that can deliver over 2 billion items each year and not have a few problems. Maybe those of us who have never had any trouble are just lucky? Well, probably not. I don't do well on the lottery.
As for price, you need to really look at USPS.com and understand how to use it. I just sent a bow to Seattle (mentioned above), 62" x 7 x 3"...for $21.00. It was Priority mail, insured. One time I took one like that to the P.O. and they told me it would be $38.00+ insurance fee. Heck I can send priority mail through the online service for the same price as retail ground which takes three times as long. And if you use the online service, you can start a claim with a click or two...already attached to that particular shipment and item number.
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From: fdp
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Date: 10-Mar-16 |
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Seems to me that there is very little understanding of the volume of shipping that USPS does versus the percentage of problems that they have.
As was mentioned before, you don't have to ship with them, there are other options.
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From: Tradspirit
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Date: 10-Mar-16 |
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I have had good luck having bought and shipped many bows over the years. However, just recently I purchased a used bow from a fellow Leatherwaller and he shipped it priority with proper insurance. It was to arrive on a Monday or Tuesday as per the tracking information. Tuesday I received a card in my mailbox that an attempt was made to deliver and because no one was home the card indicated that I should pick it up at the PO and sign for it. Well it happened that there was someone home all day and no attempt was made to deliver. I called the PO after receipt of the note and asked when I should drive over to sign for the bow. I was put on hold for 10 minutes and was then informed that the bow was on it's way back to the sender! It took another two days for them to intercept the package and get it back to my house. The box was damaged and apparently opened and then retaped as the bow sock was wrapped into the tape on the end. The original sender of course indicated that the sock was tied and in the box when he shipped it. Fortunately the bow survived. But our PO may be unique in that they no longer deliver when it rains or snows either and when they do the mail doesn't arrive until 5 or 6 o'clock in the evening. So much for "neither sleet , nor snow nor rain..."
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From: fdp
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Date: 10-Mar-16 |
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"neither rain, nor snow, nor dark/gloom of night"
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From: olddogrib
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Date: 10-Mar-16 |
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Jake, I've heard too many horror stories of strings in envelopes getting shredded in the PO's sortation equipment. I'll eat $7 to keep somebody from getting the impression I screwed 'em...or worse yet have a damaged string fail down the road and ruin somebody's bow.
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From: Jon Stewart
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Date: 10-Mar-16 |
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The % of lost or damaged is pretty low considering the volume of packages that are delivered everyday. And when it happens to you or me it is a catastrophe or at least I feel that way BUT it has rarely happened to me, even if I do use carpet tubes to mail bows. Actually I can't think of one time I have had a problem with the USPS.
I mailed out strings in those heavier smaller yellow mailing envelopes for a low cost. I use the flat rate boxes all the time. I have mailed several, probably 25, large flat rate 35# boxes of knapping rocks from New Mexico to Michigan for $18.00. There is not one other mailing service that will do that for you. I tape the crap out of the boxes before I ship them off.
And at Christmas time we buy our mail person a bottle of their favorite beverage as a thank you for their service.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 10-Mar-16 |
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Richard, how many strings have you really heard of being destroyed? No need to pay more than a $1.50 to send a string first class in a small padded envelope. I can't tell you how many I've bought over the years and never had one damaged. Whatever people are willing to pay I guess.
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From: olddogrib
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Date: 10-Mar-16 |
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Could be could be like urban legends, or Big Foot sightings...but I have it on good faith Kirk Lavender sees a bunch of 'em!
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From: SteveBNY
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Date: 10-Mar-16 |
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Small flat rate priority box is is less than $6. I've shipped 100's in a 6x9 envelope for $2.54 (because of the mufflers thickness) with no issues. Less than $1 if without silencers.
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From: 3blades
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Date: 10-Mar-16 |
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As we speak I have a black widow lost somewhere between Birmingham and Atlanta from what I can gather the box got destroyed, sent to Atlanta lost and found, they then proceed to mail back to me pieces of the box that has the tracking number and return address on it, with some BS paperwork to fill out on the contents of the package,size , serial numbers , color. Called to have an investigation started on the package and they said I would be contacted within 72 hours, gave it 5 days and called them back because I knew I wouldn't be called back, 2nd phone call they act like they've never heard of me and only have my wife's name and phone number on file...........so I about lose my mind on these clueless knuckle draggers as to how my lost package now has my wife's info on file, but that's a totally different issue I guess, Meanwhile back at the ranch I have yet to be called or seen a package or anything , it's been 6 weeks since I mailed it, and probably will never see it again mostly due to careless govt employees that are only there for a check, and could give 2 damns about your package.
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From: hawkwing
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Date: 10-Mar-16 |
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Some time ago after graduating from OSU School of Forestry,my nephew took a job in New Zealand with a timber company. I shipped my Wing Red Wing Hunter with a bow quiver and dozen arrows with broad heads. When he got lonely for his sweetie he shipped it all back to me. Not a mark on bow or arrows. He married his gal and has a little toehead boy with a soon to be arrived little brother. BTY-my Dad raised me and two bros and two sisters on rural letter carrier pay from Uncle Sam. 30+ years. We all learned trustworthiness and dependability just by osmosis.
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From: Desperado
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Date: 10-Mar-16 |
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I wanted to send a bow and went to UPS. Their price was 5 (that's right 5) times the USPS.No UPS for me !!!! I have since sent dozens of items with the USPS without a single problem and with great prices.What does Brown do for you??????Reach into your pocket and empty your wallet !!!! I am a 100% USPS fan!!! !!!!!!
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From: bishotuwa
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Date: 11-Mar-16 |
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How many of u supporters acyually know the stats of damaged to no hassel , bottom line is i did everything i was asked to provide to make a claim, and was offered a negative figure, yeah thats a stand up opperation
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From: Muddyboots
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Date: 11-Mar-16 |
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Probably upwards of 10 bow's shipped coming or going over the last 15 years. No issues with USPS for me. Sorry you are having a bad experience. I no longer use UPS as the costs are way higher than USPS for me.
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From: WV Mountaineer
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Date: 12-Mar-16 |
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Update. My wife received a notice in the mail box Thursday that I had a package. That it was going to cost me 2 bucks and change to get it. So, having the day off, she went and got it. Wouldn't you know it, it was the dang bar. The one that was delivered on March 3. The one that was on the truck to be delivered March 7th. The one that was then determined to be undeliverable due to invalid shipping address. The one that turned out obviously didn't have enough postage on it to be delivered. How it shipped is beyond me.
I paid shipping required. I have been waiting for it for 15 days. I then have to pay money to get it. I hear George now. It might have been the sellers fault for not shipping it correctly. Meaning enough money. But, if the dedicated, hard working people of the USPS had been doing their job, it would have never shipped to here from Michigan. Instead, my wife uses part of her day off to go pay OUR money for their blunder. Class act.
It's my insistence to get everything for free that has me upset that I often don't get what I pay for concerning the USPS. It's my fault altogether. If you don't believe me, just ask George.
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From: fdp
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Date: 12-Mar-16 |
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So, what I gather is that employee's and or practitioner's of occupations/vocations/profession's other than those working for the USPS, never make a mistake in what they do?
I find that to be intriguing.
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From: Jim D
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Date: 12-Mar-16 |
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What I get from it, is paying for the insurance, and when there is a problem, it's not honored.
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From: heartofhunter
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Date: 12-Mar-16 |
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Never had anything but excellent service from them, having sent probably 3 dozen b
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From: Pdiddly
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Date: 14-Mar-16 |
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Box of arrows mailed in Santa Clarita California on Saturday March 12 in the early afternoon...delivered today, March 14 in Ogdensburg NY at 12:09 pm. That's a little over 40 hours across the country. Three day priority.
Bow mailed March 11 at 11:26 am in Rochdale MA...delivered in Ogdensburg NY March 14 at 12:09 pm. That's 72 hours.
Terrible service!! ;^)
If you tour a parcel processing plant (which your bow will inevitably go through) you'll see why round tubes are a poor idea given the conveyer and sorting gates. Better a well wrapped box that will not roll into a bad place and jam.
USPS and Canada Post handle literally millions of parcels a day...there will be isolated errors but they are, by any statistical analysis, way ahead of the pack.
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From: Okaw
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Date: 14-Mar-16 |
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Better to ship a bow in a lightweight square cardboard box, than a heavyweight round tube. I've shipped several thousand longbows in standard cardboard long, square boxes. Only had one damaged, and that Postal truck was hit by a train. Post office paid the insurance claim quickly with no hassle.
NEVER, NEVER use a round tube to ship a bow, unless you put it in a square box.
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From: horsem
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Date: 15-Mar-16 |
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Knock on wood. I have shipped A LOT of bows using usps priority and have never had a problem. I make my own boxes out of mid weight cardboard from 4x8 sheets. I also ship the bows in a mid weight wool or fleece sock that is leather reinforced at the bottom and on the inside of the top, plus I add an additional leather "cap" to the upper limb tip.
I have had bows mailed to me wrapped in newspaper (or nothing at all) and put in usps supplied triangle boxes that have been shoved together, by the time the bows arrived a couple of them had one or more of the limb tips shoved through the box
Two of the most recent bows that I have shipped....
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From: horsem
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Date: 15-Mar-16 |
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From: Pdiddly
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Date: 15-Mar-16 |
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One of those socks and boxes that horsem features looks real familiar!!
It contained a beautiful old Howatt Mamba and it was among the most intelligently packed bows I have ever received. The sock is just excellent too!
First class!!
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