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Anyone try and not like ilf?

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medley 09-Aug-11
ky_hunter 09-Aug-11
K Cummings 09-Aug-11
Zman 09-Aug-11
medley 09-Aug-11
K Cummings 09-Aug-11
ron rector 09-Aug-11
Juan Matos 09-Aug-11
yorktown5 09-Aug-11
JusPassin 09-Aug-11
jhelton 09-Aug-11
Zman 09-Aug-11
Zman 09-Aug-11
ron rector 09-Aug-11
K Cummings 09-Aug-11
Lil' Okie 09-Aug-11
WRV 09-Aug-11
Bill C 09-Aug-11
carpenter 09-Aug-11
freaknyellow 09-Aug-11
Zman 09-Aug-11
K Cummings 09-Aug-11
Tatersalad 09-Aug-11
Bill C 09-Aug-11
ga bowhunter 09-Aug-11
GLF 09-Aug-11
DanaC 09-Aug-11
4nolz@work 09-Aug-11
English Setter 09-Aug-11
K Cummings 09-Aug-11
medley 09-Aug-11
4nolz@work 09-Aug-11
K Cummings 09-Aug-11
rd2 09-Aug-11
carpenter 09-Aug-11
carpenter 09-Aug-11
DanaC 09-Aug-11
Dewey 09-Aug-11
K Cummings 10-Aug-11
riverrat 10-Aug-11
GLF 10-Aug-11
Bjorn 10-Aug-11
hillbillyking 10-Aug-11
JRW 10-Aug-11
JRW 10-Aug-11
Zman 10-Aug-11
PineLander 10-Aug-11
yorktown5 10-Aug-11
damascusdave 10-Aug-11
English Setter 10-Aug-11
Babysaph 10-Aug-11
carpenter 10-Aug-11
medley 10-Aug-11
4nolz@work 10-Aug-11
Andy Man 10-Aug-11
tabbender 10-Aug-11
medley 10-Aug-11
virginia 18-Aug-11
PineLander 18-Aug-11
REG 18-Aug-11
falcon 18-Aug-11
K Cummings 18-Aug-11
Andy Man 18-Aug-11
Andy Man 18-Aug-11
K Cummings 18-Aug-11
WillScarlet 18-Aug-11
Bowlim 18-Aug-11
bwshooter 18-Aug-11
K Cummings 19-Aug-11
bwshooter 19-Aug-11
From: medley
Date: 09-Aug-11




Just curious if there is anybody out there that has shot an ilf bow and didnt care for it.

I believe I am going to try it out. Leaning towards a tradtech apex riser(waiting for it to be available)

Whatever riser I choose, it will probably be wooden, and I definitly want to shoot of the shelf.

Just wanted to hear the "cons" if any exists.

From: ky_hunter
Date: 09-Aug-11




i`ve yet to find a "con" to my hoyt excel and the wifes samick mizar. far as i`m concerned ilf is the way to go.

From: K Cummings
Date: 09-Aug-11




That's a tough question to answer. I have shot ILF bows that I didn't particularly like, but it had nothing to do with the fact that they were ILF.

It's a little bit like asking if anyone has ever dated a woman that they didn't like. Most men would answer yes but I doubt it had much to do with the fact that they don't like women. They just didn't happen to like THAT woman.

:>)

ILF is a connection system, nothing more, nothing less. Whether you like the bow it is used on is an entirely different story.

KPC

From: Zman Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 09-Aug-11




Try a Morrison riser and Carbon/Foam limbs. Or his bamboo limbs.

From: medley
Date: 09-Aug-11




Also wanted to say that I am interested in a hunting setup, but would like to hear from anyone.

Also, if anybody can give performance examples, that would be great.

From: K Cummings
Date: 09-Aug-11

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I'm not sure what you are looking for as far as "performance examples" but I can tell you that I shot the Apex prototype last winter and it was great. The grip is quite slim which I like and it just seemed to fit me well. I tried it with the TradTech Black Max carbon limbs, TradTech Masters longbow limbs, and the TradTech Extreme BF limbs. All the combinations were very smooth, vibration, and shock free.

I didn't chrono any of the limbs on the Apex riser but I have chronoed them on my Titan riser and I can only assume that they will perform close to the same. Speed wise, the Extreme BF limbs will perfrom with any ILF limb on the planet. All things being equal, the Black Max carbons will be about 5 or 6 fps slower than the BFs and the Masters longbow limbs in my experience will fall somewhere in between.

If you are looking for a heck of a hunting setup and it fits the way you shoot, you will be hard pressed to find a better value than the Apex with the Black Max Carbon limbs.

KPC

From: ron rector
Date: 09-Aug-11




I have had a trad tech pinnacle for about a month now and have no complaints whatsoever. Its 40# @ 28" and shoot a 400 gr arrow l67 fps. It quiet smooth and all for less than five hundred dollars. I have had some of the best of bows and find this bow shoots as good as any of them.

Ron

From: Juan Matos
Date: 09-Aug-11




Speaking of women; once a woman started inserting her pinky finger(use your imagination) and I definitley Didn't like it! I was like; Woah, what the hell are you doing?

From: yorktown5
Date: 09-Aug-11




I wrote a small book on vintage bows. Love them. But very few have matched and exactly zero (out of about 50 examples to compare) have been more consistently accurate than my two ILF bows.

Main reason is that the specifications of any bow other than ILF is somewhat fixed and the archer to some degree must adapt to the bow. With ILF I was able to completely adjust the bow to ME. Made all the difference.

Rick

From: JusPassin Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 09-Aug-11




Juan, Really, what the &*^%?

From: jhelton
Date: 09-Aug-11




I dont care for the looks of most of them, but as far as usefulness... hard to beat them.

J

From: Zman Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 09-Aug-11

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What about the looks you don't like?

From: Zman Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 09-Aug-11

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From: ron rector
Date: 09-Aug-11




We have the best of both worlds. For those that want beauty and have the money you can buy a Morrison or Blacktail, or if you can't afford that much you can buy a tradtech and have excellent performance as well.

Ron

From: K Cummings
Date: 09-Aug-11




That is a beautiful setup Zman.

Just curious though, why so much string silencer stuff? Is all that needed?

KPC

From: Lil' Okie
Date: 09-Aug-11




Zman..that is a looker!!

From: WRV
Date: 09-Aug-11




I have shot Zman's Morrison and it will smoke an arrow!! A real looker too. I'm trying to decide now what wood combo to order mine in......Randy

From: Bill C
Date: 09-Aug-11




The shooting qualities of an ILF will be limited only by the quality of the limbs you put on any particular riser. The best limbs I have shot are Win&Win and Border. Can't say pros or cons about too many others as I have only shot Hoyts which did not measure up to the ones I alluded to.

From: carpenter
Date: 09-Aug-11




I will take a one piece longbow thanks.

From: freaknyellow
Date: 09-Aug-11




Shot a lot of them at Denton hill and many were good bows that shot good but I wasnt blown away by any and dont feel any need to sell any of my bows to buy any of them. I guess I'm just not trendy. My two shooting buddies did find that not all ILF limbs fit all that great in all ILF risers or shot as well in some. That may be something to look at for those going the ILF route.

From: Zman Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 09-Aug-11




No. Not really needed. I put them on when I first got the bow. I have two sets on all my bows. Just habit I guess. It is quiet though:)

From: K Cummings
Date: 09-Aug-11




"I will take a one piece longbow thanks."

Just curious carpenter, have you ever tried an ILF bow?

KPC

From: Tatersalad
Date: 09-Aug-11




Shot a Hoyt buffalo and never liked the fact that when it was unstrung the limbs were all floppy and could basically fall off. I just can't image that it doesn't end up making noise or creating a problem...with the loose fit.

I know i lot of guys on here that i respect say nothing but good things about them but i can't get my little pee brain around the loose fitting limb pockets...sorry....I'm being honest.

Michael

From: Bill C
Date: 09-Aug-11




The limb fittings on the original DAS and the current DAS Dalla are different and are not at all "floppy" on the riser when unstrung. They are much like a regular 3 piece take down, in that regard.

From: ga bowhunter
Date: 09-Aug-11




they shoot as good as any other bow and do have some advantages being able to shoot anyone's limbs,here's my opinion if you have a longer draw like me you are really limited to long recurve limbs the trad tech limbs are good but i was really looking to shoot longbow limbs on my 15" onyx risers to do that you need extra long limbs to be smooth at longer draws so imo they are not as versatile as i had hoped and yes i have tried several other risers longer one's and din't care for them the top end limbs are expensive,it trad tech made some affordable extra long longbows limbs they are probably all i would shoot!

From: GLF Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 09-Aug-11




The only advantage ilf has is that if you like one guys riser n another guys limb design you can use both in one bow. Some of the older ones were noisier, I dunno about the newer ones.

From: DanaC
Date: 09-Aug-11




GLF, you missed one huge advantage of ILF - cost.

You can buy a good ILF hunting set-up, then add inexpensive limbs for fun/practice/form/target work at a fraction of the cost of a custom makers stuff. (Think 'less than $100.')

Or start with a medium-range target set-up and upgrade to a hot hunting rig as your budget allows.

For example, I bought a decent target rig for form work, then added a pair of better hunting limbs, which gave me a sweet 3D bow. Now I'm planning to add a shorter hunting riser, which will give me a hot hunting rig as well as another 3D set-up with the original limbs.

Could I do the same with two risers and two sets of limbs from one custom bowyer? Yeah, at about 60% more $$. That's a LOT of beer and pretzels ;-)

Dana (who holds the copyright on the term 'ILFonomics ;-) )

From: 4nolz@work
Date: 09-Aug-11




GLF thats a pretty durn good advantage! Thats the best part imo.

From: English Setter
Date: 09-Aug-11




I've never shot one but some risers remind me of the early compound bows without the wheels on the limb tips,just my opinion. The new custom wood ILF risers are nice. I've read & understand the engineering of the ILF system. If I shot competive 3-D I would most likely shoot & ILF bow with much less # than I hunt with. I got away from all the hoop laa & c-bows in 87 with a 1-piece recurve & now shoot longbow & recurve.

If I shot free style target again it also would be with the new ILF bow systems.

I guess there all good. I'm looking forward to shooting one.

From: K Cummings
Date: 09-Aug-11




"The limb fittings on the original DAS and the current DAS Dalla are different and are not at all "floppy" on the riser when unstrung. They are much like a regular 3 piece take down, in that regard."

But then again, those aren't ILF bows, which is what the original poster was asking about. Same with the Hoyt Buffalo. They are both proprietary connections that defeat the whole purpose of ILF.

Simply put, if my bow is strung, it is as secure as any other takedown out there. If it is unstrung, that means I'm not using it and therefore a "floppy" limb is irrelevant.

I can't speak for everyone but I know I don't spend a whole lot of time in a treestand, on a 3D course, or on the line at an indoor range with an unstrung bow...which would be the only placea that a "floppy" limb would matter to me.

:>)

KPC

From: medley
Date: 09-Aug-11




Thats exactly why I am going this route. Options at a fraction of cost, upgrades as you can afford them.

Dana, name is all yours I believe lol

From: 4nolz@work
Date: 09-Aug-11




the hoyt buffalo doesnt take any other brand limbs? I figured it was ILF.

From: K Cummings
Date: 09-Aug-11

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Nolz:

The Buffalo is on the new Hoyt Paralever platform, not ILF. Only Hoyt makes limbs that will fit. The dovetail is the same but the limb butt is substantially longer.

KPC

From: rd2
Date: 09-Aug-11




4nolz' the buffalo is the same as the hoyt formula,the distance between the dove tail and the limb bolt is different. I think I saw a picture of some border limbs to fit the buffalo on here a few months ago though.

From: carpenter
Date: 09-Aug-11




Kevin,I just traded one for a Griffin,and feel really good about it!

From: carpenter
Date: 09-Aug-11




Nothing wrong with ILF bows,I just prefer 1 piece long bows.

From: DanaC
Date: 09-Aug-11




Carpenter, if I could just have one bow, it might be my Martin Dreamcatcher, but I like bowS, plural. ILF gives me more bowS for my money. ;-)

From: Dewey
Date: 09-Aug-11




A big advantage of ILF for the newbee is that they can get an ILF riser and low poundage limbs to start, and then get stronger limbs as they advance.

That's what I did, anyhoo.

Plus the Excel riser in "black-out" along with TradTech Black Max limbs makes for a fine looking bow, IMHO !!!

From: K Cummings
Date: 10-Aug-11




Carpenter:

"Kevin,I just traded one for a Griffin,and feel really good about it!"

That's cool. I might be a longbow fan too...if I could shoot one.

:>)

For some reason, the grips and I just don't get along.

The reason why I was curious if you had ever tried one is simple. There seems to be a number of people lately, that will come on any ILF thread there is and basically just poo-poo the whole concept, never having even tried one, or having no desire to ever try one.

I'm perplexed by their motivations. It's almost like they fear them. I would never feel the need to click on a D longbow thread and tell everybody how much I don't like them. That just seems funny to me. I just don't read the threads about equipment that doesn't interest me.

Good luck with your new Griffin by the way.

KPC

From: riverrat
Date: 10-Aug-11




:)

From: GLF Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 10-Aug-11




4nolz I wasn't saying its not a great advatage, just that its the only one of any consequense. Guess cheap is a good one too tho,lol. Especially for guys building up to a higher weight. I had a hoyt ifl bow back when they first put em out. Problem was there weren't many other limbs for em other than hoyt n it was noisy.

From: Bjorn Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 10-Aug-11




Just like any bows-you will like some and not others; shoot lots and see what you like. The fact that they are ILF does not make the bow good or bad.

From: hillbillyking
Date: 10-Aug-11




As everyone Knows Ima Bear collecter and shooter But The Morrison Cheyanne a riser wth Carbon limbs is the smoothest fastest niceset New Bow I ever have shot for sure !! !!

From: JRW
Date: 10-Aug-11




I could never get used to the 15 adjustment screws. :)

From: JRW
Date: 10-Aug-11




I could never get used to the 15 adjustment screws. :)

From: Zman Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 10-Aug-11




I am so tired of hearing about "15 adjustment screws." What are you talking about??

From: PineLander
Date: 10-Aug-11




They are criticizing Lee of Keep It Simple Archery, about his views on tech bows.

From: yorktown5
Date: 10-Aug-11




Last night I'm not sure what I was thinking, but just back from the range..well sometimes a guy just gets dumb luck.

I have 2 ILF setups. One an Excel riser with #45 Black Max wood/glass shorts. Cranked up to near max, the bow comes in at 62"- #45. The other is the Tradtech Black Onyx with their 45# longbow limbs making it 60"-51# at the lowest riser setting.

I always talked about interchanging the limbs, but really didn't want to change the riser settings and I had two great 3D bows to use this season (my scores improved dramatically BTW).

Over the course of the season I stopped picking the longbow as I seemed to shoot the 45# ever so slightly better as once in awhile the 51# would let an arrow get away from me.

Well with the 3D season winding down and hunting coming up, and wanting the smaller Onyx riser to go with the short Black Max limbs for a 56" Hunter, last night I made the swap.

The Hoyt Excel with the longbow limbs is 66" and the bow pulled the same 51# as the limbs did on the Onyx. But the short recurve limbs on the Onyx riser drew just 43#...a bit less than I want for a hunting bow and just the opposite of what one would expect to happen as poundage should have gone up slightly (variations in the amount of deflex from riser to riser WILL affect how a riser-limb combo actually weighs in)

The result is a 66" longbow a bit heavier than I like to use in 3D and a 56" recurve a bit too light for my hunting preference.

Here came the "Eureka" moment. I backed off on the draw weight of the Longbow and screwed down the settings on the recurve until both drew the same 47# @ 28". Took a little trial and error, but I then kept tweaking tiller keeping poundage the same and got both riser/limb setups to the same slightly positive tiller.

Just back from shooting and after some minor brace height and nock set tweaks-- whooie! I now have two bows that shoot the same arrows to the same point on with the same sight picture with the same draw to stack length in an ideal weight for both 3D and hunting.

Can you just imagine what it would cost for a custom job of a 56" recurve AND a 66" longbow with identical shooting characteristics?

Rick

From: damascusdave
Date: 10-Aug-11




I would at least take a look at the ILF set up from Bearspaw as well. They look awfully nice. Neil is a master bowyer. Only reason that I do not have one is that I am technically a recovering bow buying addict and that means that unless there is a really good reason, or I think that I may not get caught, I will not be buying any more bows until at least after Christmas.

DDave

From: English Setter
Date: 10-Aug-11




That's a good reason...DDave I like the ,or I think that I may not get caught! LOL I'm trying to get my wife shooting so she will understand...I think?

From: Babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 10-Aug-11




Can't you get new limbs for most takedowns?

From: carpenter
Date: 10-Aug-11




Thanks Kevin! I am just old and set in my ways. I did try em though. carpenter

From: medley
Date: 10-Aug-11




Yes babysaph, after a long wait, hefty bill (most times), and no adjustment. Meaning no range in draw weight.

From: 4nolz@work
Date: 10-Aug-11




I think the 15 screw thing is more of a running joke than a jab.Besides there are only 14 screws and a nut holding the bow.

From: Andy Man
Date: 10-Aug-11




Honestly , have tried them, Not for me

Just like my one piece recurves and longbows better;; they work fine for what I do and just like a one piece bow beter

U asked

From: tabbender
Date: 10-Aug-11




I tried to not like them but it didn't work.

From: medley
Date: 10-Aug-11




Thanks andy man. Yes, I asked.

From: virginia Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 18-Aug-11




I feel like I have been in this discussion 100 times over the past 40 years. For the question I did shoot a Hoyt buffalo and liked the shooting charactoristics a great deal. I know it is not an ILF, but the principle is the same. I then watched 3 people shoot the Korean versions on two 3 d courses, and have second hand stories about another friend that has one. The folks that shot them were very accurate and have had success in tournement shooting. They used target form, target rests, target arrows, and target slings. The ILF bows were too noisy for my tastes, and one of the ILF risers had a broken internal piece after a few shots. I think for the serious 3d archer the ILF system would be very hard to beat.

Having said the above, every bone in my body tells me to RUN AWAY as fast as posible from ILF for hunting. I would bet a months pay I (talking only about myself here) would not make it through two months of hunting without a catastophic bow failure with an ILF bow. I am speaking from almost 40 years of hunting experience. I could spend days telling stories of murphy getting into any crevice. I have won many bets and have had no end of fun over the equipment failures of friends with more moving parts (compound, release, sights, peep etc.)

Having said that I am VERY tempted to buy a hoyt buffalo and doctor it up to my tastes as a hunting rig. I think it could be a serious meat maker, for awhile. It was surprisingly quiet, even selfbow quiet, and very easy to maintain proper form and follow-through. On the down side it was heavy by longbow standards, cold metal, and too many barn doors for murphy to drive a truck through. I probably have too little self control to avoid getting one, but some day I will tell myself I told you so...... In the end I always come back to the mild R/D longbow modified to my tastes.

As for ILF, I have as yet seen enough to think the advantages would outweigh the potential for critical failure under extreme hunting conditions. If you like them, more power to you and I wish you every success.

From: PineLander
Date: 18-Aug-11




I tried them, liked them for a little a while....

but came back to what I prefer in a hunting bow -

wooden recurve and longbow, the one-piece variety.

From: REG
Date: 18-Aug-11




if you like 3 piece bows, they are great. You can interchange limbs if you want and modify the poundage 10%. Adjust the tiller if you want. Upgrades are possible.

If you want the look of a one piece (And I get that) then no three piece will do.

But for me, I really my Trad Tech black max Carbon limbs on the pinnacle II. I was going to wait for the Apex, but John talked me into a 19" riser.

I'm very happy.

From: falcon
Date: 18-Aug-11




They shoot great and if you want a TD bow they are the ticket. I've got one but my 1 piece bows are more fun. I may keep it for travel.

From: K Cummings
Date: 18-Aug-11




Virginia:

I find your post kind of interesting. First you say how much you like the Buffalo, how quiet it is, even "selfbow quiet" yet the connection on the buffalo is exactly the same as an ILF connection. The only difference is that on the Buffalo, the limb butt is a longer.

I suspect that the bows that you saw that were so loud were set up for 3D, not hunting. My ILF rig, set up to shoot off the shelf is as quiet or quieter than most anything out there.

It all depends on how you set them up.

You know, it's kind of interesting. A good friend of mine has a couple of the older Bear Takedowns and we were looking them over just this past weekend. It has more screws, bolts, latches, springs and clips than my ILF rig ever thought of having and yet it is considered by many to be one of the finest hunting recurves ever produced.

Go figure...

KPC

From: Andy Man
Date: 18-Aug-11

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Like I said; just don't match the beauty of a onepiece; , At least in my eye, The one piece just feels better in my hand

From: Andy Man
Date: 18-Aug-11

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From: K Cummings
Date: 18-Aug-11




Pretty bow Andy.

KPC

From: WillScarlet
Date: 18-Aug-11




No fair............custom Black Widow!

From: Bowlim
Date: 18-Aug-11




"Can you just imagine what it would cost for a custom job of a 56" recurve AND a 66" longbow with identical shooting characteristics? "

I did once have 4 or 5 bows on the go for different types of tournaments. Drove me nuts. I just want one bow, a backup to that bow, and sure some others I might pick up or have collected. But I only really want to shoot one bow at a time.

No argument about saving money ever saved anyone a dime. People in our society spend it all. If they like a certain sport they will dump their money into it. Some are frugal types who buy lots of cheap products, others just buy a few of the best. Nobody saves a dime.

I have one ILF longbow, and I like it a lot, but it still isn't my thing. I think it might work for one of my girls. Or if I get injured and can't handle my hunting bows any longer. At my age that does happen. I think that at 40 pounds they probably outperform many other platforms. But I am not there yet.

The reality in the US is someone is always teching stuff up which is how we got the comopound. A whole heck of a lot more shooters want to shoot compounds, and while ILF style bows are nothing like a compound mechanically, they have a chance of breaking into that lucrative market and making people a lot of money. It is what some people want.

From: bwshooter
Date: 18-Aug-11




I have looked hard at them. If I had money to blow I would get a Morrison just because of his mastery of the craft. I have never shot one so what I am about to say may not be factual, but to me its totally logical.

I really doubt at normal hunting distances 0-20yds. I would see any great improvement over any other type bow I shoot. I shoot a selfbow I made. A Schultz style all bamboo longbow, Bear Green Stripe T/D, Black Widow TFII, Bighorn one piece and a takedown, last but not least a BP Palomino. I seriously doubt that an ILF bow would make me shoot any better at short range than I shoot the above mentioned bows. It's possible I guess but at the moment I would just as soon shoot the selfbow as any bow.

That's not to say a guy should not try or buy anything he has a mind to. To me ILF is just another type bow no better or worse than any other bow type. For hunting that is. For shot to shot repeatability for 3-d or target is my guess where they really shine.

From: K Cummings
Date: 19-Aug-11




After reading about the supposed pro's and con's of "ILF bows," (and shooting one for 5 years) I'm starting to come to the conclusion that many people are really confused about what ILF REALLY is.

bwshoter is correct when he said:

"To me ILF is just another type bow no better or worse than any other bow type."

If you want to get picky, ILF isn't really a type of bow at all, it's nothing more than a style of limb connection. It's a type of limb connection that allows a certain amount of adjustment.

ILF has NOTHING whatsoever to do with elevated rests, cushion plungers, sights, stabilizers, etc. Those things CAN all be used on a riser that has the ILF connection, but they CAN (and are) used on bows that have a normal bolt and pin TD system, or even one piece bows.

The ONLY things ILF REALLY does, is it makes all limbs with the connection usable on all risers with the connection. It allows preload adjustments to help those with shorter and longer draws, and it allows custom tiller adjustment. These are all things that any other recurve or longbow is capable of, it's just with the ILF connection you don't need a bowyer to do it.

bwshooter also mentioned that he shoots a Bear Green Stripe T/D which has a connection system that is every bit as "mechanical" as the ILF system. One has to wonder why the same "mechanical" arguments aren't made about it's connection system.

KPC

From: bwshooter
Date: 19-Aug-11




I never said anything about an ILF being more mechanical/complicated or less traditional. I said I doubt they show their true potintial in a most hunting situations at the yardages I will take hunting shots. Meaning the many bows I have do just fine even in their non adjustable form.

I used to be of the thinking that custom bows or the latest greatest was needed to gain an edge. My thinking has changed a lot in 27 years of hunting with a longbow and recurve. I can do well with most any bow at hunting ranges if I shoot it enough. Whether it's slow or fast, custom, vintage bow, or home made. Practice is the single best way to be successful.

I like the concept of the fine adjustments you can make on an ILF bow, but in my view at least for me I don't really need it. The point has also been made that for less money you can put together a fine shooting bow vs. custom bows. The ILF type does have more pros than cons it seems. If I was looking for a new bow I would strongly consider one.





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