Trying to wrap my head around some info. Did a little searching and little confused.

It seems red pine is Norway pine which is also lodgepole pine which is also chundoo? I have this right?

According to James Duff, Norway pine is the cats meow for arrow wood, right above white spruce.(circa 1927)

Norway pine is not Lodgepole pine although very similar.

Chundoo is the native peoples of northern BC word for Lodgepole pine.

Both make superior shafting, my all time favorite!

Just thinking about how tight the growth rings are in the doghair stuff…. That’d have to make a tough, heavy arrow, wouldn’t it?

Yeah, from what I gather like Kelly stated Red or Norway pine (Pinus resinosa) is a different species from Lodgepole pine (Pinus contorta)...

So chundoo is “Canadian pine”?

No, Chundoo is “Lodgepole pine” (Pinus contorta)

Learned this when we had a thread discussing Lodgepole pine/Chundoo a couple months ago, see link:

https://leatherwall.bowsite.com/TF/lw/thread2.cfm? threadid=344878&category=88#5374580

Where do you get shafts made of any of the above?

Twig Archery offers them. John is a great guy to work with. Been flinging his chundoo for decades.

Agree with Kelly, when I was in the arrow business, I sold the splitpine hexshaft exclusively. If your not familiar with that shaft its lodgepole that has been laminated like a bamboo fly rod. The are tuff and quickly recover from paradox.

Bob

Chundoo heavier than Douglas fir in y’all’s opinion?

Generally, in my experience Doug fir is a little heavier, at least in the heavier spine weights. But I would differ to Bob and Kelly who have made more arrows in a year than I have in a lifetime.

As a horseback follow-up, most of my arrows are stored at the office, bu I had 16 boxes of dozens in the hunting room in the basement. Doug fir shafts averaged about 465 grains on 32-inch shafts before they were made up. Most are 75-80 spine, and 11/32”, but two boxes were 60 to 70 lb.

The cedars were all 23/64 and five dozen averaged 450 grains, ranging from 435 to 460 per dozen grains in shaft weight

I had 3 dozen chundoo in 75-80 lbs. and they averaged 460 grains. As I recall, they were on the proud side of 11/32”.

This proves nothing, but my experience Doug fir is heavier especially if same diameter shafts are used. Chundoo will come in next, with POC the lighter of the three. Doug fir will get me 14 to 15 grain per inch at most of my bow weights.

Correction: that’s 14 to 15 grains per pound, not per inch. My apology. The Irish water spaniel and golden retriever were chasing imaginary rabbits through the living room and I got distracted. They never caught the rabbit.

Chundoo is the name marketed by the company who made the shafts located in northern British Columbia. That said Lodgepole Pine ranges from there down into Colorado and maybe northern New Mexico.

I have 30 dz of those lodgepoles I bought from Kelly. They are starting to become my favorite shafting as well.

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