I would like opinions on installing inserts in a longbow riser. Seems most are very narrow and don't allow much area for the standard 1/4x20 inserts. Also, risers are short normally. And, if the riser allows, would that size insert compromise the structural integrity of the riser, especially on a very narrow riser? I really don't like strap on quivers, just don't work properly and over time will mar the bow.

I had them in a whippenstick worked good. Rooty

You've pointed outmost of the problems. I'll point out another. Because of the short longbow riser, even if you do put in quiver inserts, they are very close together. That means the lower quiver bracket is very close to the hood, which spreads out the arrows a lot, too much IMO.

I've never had trouble with my Selway slip on quivers on longbows. They stay put, don't mar the finish and are very quiet.

The Great Northern quiver is a great one...strap on model and won't damage anything. Bushings create two holes that can compromise the structural integrity of a very small riser to begin with. Actually, I can't abide a quiver on a longbow so I just carry an Asbell style or back quiver. The call is up to you and a look at the riser should tell you whether it's a good idea or not.

Big Jim's strap on quivers are very nice, and priced right.

Murray

Big Jim's strap on quivers are very nice, and priced right.

Murray

Thanks for the opines guys, still pondering. Back quivers don't lend themselves to still hunting at all, which is half my hunting time. And, strapons compromise limb action (especially on longbows) as well as arrow movement inside the hood, they loosen w/ more than a few shots. Have to practice w/ quiver as to simulate shots at game. At any rate, got some time before season starts to figure it out!

Art Vincent Powderhorn side quiver.. Best quiver you will ever find.. Built to last 3 lifetimes..Love mine!!!!

A fact ignored by most bowhunters is that a slide-on or strap-on bow quiver is the single most degradation of the bow's speed. It is a fact more than ignored; many will argue that point. I believe that is because they want to use a bow quiver and any argument against it is incorrect. At a minimum, such a bow quiver will effectively stiffen your arrow by one spine unit (5 lbs.) Look it up.

It's all up to you.

It depends a lot on what the riser is made from, how the grain is oriented, and most importantly what you are calling a "longbow". That term has become corrupted so that a general description really isn't much help.

Is this a true "Hill/ASL" type longbow or is it a more hybridized version with a larger riser in it?

I get your not being fond of a back quiver simply 'cause some aren't, but I and many others have been still hunting with a back quiver for years and years. Typically if the back quiver is causing you problems still hunting you are moving too fast and carelessly.

If your arrows are moving in the hood, and you feel the quiver is affecting limb acations then the quiver is not mounted correctly. Then quiver should be inboard( toward the center of bow) from the fade outs. If to far out toward tips then the quiver will move as limb flexes. I have used the Eagles Flight, GN, Big Jim and have not seen any marks on the limbs.

Quickdraw,

Back quivers don't lend themselves to still hunting? They're absolutely the best choice. I know this is personal preference but there are advantages once you get familiar with one. It does take time and a little effort but once mastered you'll not want to use anything else.

A back quiver leaves your bow unencumbered with no additional weight. Maneuvering through brush is easy, just rotate the quiver and tuck it under your arm, fletchings rearward. Your quiver will carry extras also, like a sandwich, or bottle of soda. Not a can! I've punctured a can in my quiver and it wasn't pretty. You can throw almost anything in it that'll fit with your arrows. I do not hunt exclusively with a back quiver. Sometimes I'll use a bow quiver on my recurves.

Now to answer your question, I had a longbow that I installed inserts into. It was fine. Lost some speed and I found it a little tight for my bow hand. It does take some time to get used to but like anything else it takes practice.

Frank

First standard bushings are 10-24 only Bear uses 1/4-20 AFAIK.

Second check out the Bow Wart at 3 Rivers. If you have 1”x2” area that is relatively flat. It is a non marring, tape on, bracket that will give you the ability to use any standard quiver without hurting your bow.

Another vote for the Art Vincent hip quiver. I have used it for years and it works in all situations

Yes standard bushings, ie sight bushings are 10-24. Quickee Quiver type mount to these sight bushings. Also, Black Widow uses 10-24 bushings for their quivers.

Everyone one else the standard bow quiver bushings are 1/4-20. Been that way for many decades.

Don’t see installing inserts as being a problem. Put some epoxy on the insert and it should be as strong as ever. If using the quickie Quiver or sight hole mount Quiver it shouldn’t be a problem. I like bolt on Quivers. Never found a strap on or slip on that mounts as solid as a bolt on.

No back quiver is easy to deal w/ in thick cover, mostly. Too cumbersome, l like solid, non- moving, or slipping stuff. And no, an ASL LB is out as far as inserts are concerned, but l have a flatbow and a couple other hybrids the smaller Border type inserts will work well with. We'll see. No more strap ons for me, especially on recurves. No matter how close to the fades you mount it, it still affects the limb action, and also, they're kinda ugly!

No back quiver is easy to deal w/ in thick cover, mostly. Too cumbersome, l like solid, non- moving, or slipping stuff. And no, an ASL LB is out as far as inserts are concerned, but l have a flatbow and a couple other hybrids the smaller Border type inserts will work well with. We'll see. No more strap ons for me, especially on recurves. No matter how close to the fades you mount it, it still affects the limb action, and also, they're kinda ugly!

Finally got the inserts and stuff to convert my Thunderhorn strap on to side mount. Kim was very helpful at TH, getting me the parts I needed. Here's how it mounted on my Jim Reynolds Thunderstick III, works great and very solid. Did not have to cut the laminations; stayed 3/16ths from them w/ the inserts. 8.5" between inserts, so really a nice application.

Looks nice.

Thanks trad!

Sure beats a strap on. Nice job Wyatt.

I did inserts in my NewWood longbow 2 years ago and no problems.

Oh no! I was going to say don't do it. A bow quiver on a long bow just seems wrong, like a scope on a flint lock rifle. But hey, it looks really good. We boots do what pleases us.

Thanks Don, and Tom, you're a smart trad guy! But Michael, I would never put a quiver on my "supertrad" JD Berry "Vixen"! That would be "Sacrilege" for sure! ;^)

I use a bow wart on one of my recurve,works great.You just need a big enough flat spot on the riser. Contact spinrite cresting machines they make the bow wart and ask the dimensions

What's A bow wart?

Small aluminum plate with 10-24 tapped holes to mount quiver bracket to. Attaches to bow with heavy duty double sided tape. I have used a 3,4 and 6 arrow kwiki quiver on my bow.

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