From: Yellah Nocks
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Date: 25-Mar-21 |
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Attached are pics of the Loggy bayou that I purchased used. I rebuilt it after wiping with acetone and shooting berliner on all the metal. I let that dry then shot the camo ala' Krylon. I installed a new sling seat on the climber portion and padded the platform seat with CLOSED cell foam using veterinarian wrap to hold the foam. I could easily fall asleep on that seat now. The hollow core rope is okay but I am going to replace it very soon. I know how to splice and slide splice so I will upgrade to half inch rather than 3/8. The backpack straps were sloppy slidey so I lashed them at peak above the neck location. I also vet wrapped the metal elt slides so they cannot make noise on the platform. Rubber membrane(like I use making tabs)mess used extensively in different locations so the sections and band cannot rattle. If you look carefully at the tree contact point you will see the self tapping screw heads used as grippies for tree trunks(no slidey for uncle Richie). With drying times slow the whole thing took about 20 man hours. Oh...almost forgot...the hand climber portion crossbar was also silenced with membrane. It is dead silent attaching now. Thanks to Crow2 my band is brand new, so I am likely looking at another 40 years to go on this stand. I'll be 104 by that time!??????
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From: Live2Hunt
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Date: 25-Mar-21 |
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I honestly feel those are the best climbing stands made for many reasons. I look every year at new climbers but for use, lightness and compactness nothing else compares.
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From: Yellah Nocks
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Date: 25-Mar-21 |
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Also made bungee tethers for: hollow core rope and pull-up rope. Still refining a mini bungee for clipping to the ends of the bands which dead stops any band rattle during climbing. In short I addressed RVERY rattle and safety update to bring this stand to 2021 standards. By the time you read this the top and bottom will be tethered together do both sections stay TOGETHER and I am not sitting on the sling looking at the platform twenty feet below me.
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From: Supernaut
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Date: 25-Mar-21 |
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Really nice work and hope you have many more years of use out of your Loggy! I've had one since I was around 16 but haven't used it in a while. Same as yours with the metal band and rope around the tree to the knob on the seat to tighten down. No hand climber for me just hug the tree and pull yourself up. I think if I were to start using it again, I'd look for the hand climber piece.
Your pics and story make me want to get it out, go over it and take it for a spin.
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From: Yellah Nocks
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Date: 25-Mar-21 |
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Live2, I generally agree but tip my hat to some of the light summits. However...with things happening outside the box in every quarter I deliberately chose this stand. Why? The band, if cared for, along with the other components have a PROVEN track record of longevity and still being usable. Built like the M-1. With the hand climber and all the add ons it isn't as light as it started out, but longevity was the goal. I will never have to replace it, everything else being equal. Plus I can use it as a hang on if I need to. Sort of a "prepper" kind of stand. Turns out the old band didn't have a kink under the rubber like I feared. I do have a spare band now. Like I said...lifetime stand.
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From: Yellah Nocks
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Date: 25-Mar-21 |
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Supernaut...I mos def would encourage you to check EVERY possible safety point before climbing. This stand will start life 1 foot off the ground. I will then jump up and down a couple times on the platform(nothing outrageous but I do weigh 215). THEN I will test climb to 5 feet and do a complete setup. At 5 feet if something goes a little sideways I can hop off.
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From: Nemophilist
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Date: 25-Mar-21 |
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Looks good. I use a Lone Wolf mostly now if I'm using a climber but I still have and use my Loggy from time to time also.
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From: Nemophilist
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Date: 25-Mar-21 |
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P.S. I'd replace the rope with a ratchet strap.
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From: Live2Hunt
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Date: 25-Mar-21 |
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I have actually packed elk out with my Loggy, LOL.
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From: Yellah Nocks
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Date: 25-Mar-21 |
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Nemophilist, I would agree from that safety standpoint generally. But by going to half inch hollow core AND leaving a long tag end I can use the threaded j hook AND use an extra double half hitch on the crossbar. She ain't going NOPLACE once it's up. But thanks sincerely!!
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From: Supernaut
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Date: 25-Mar-21 |
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Yellah, good advice and I'm a firm believer in safety and testing rigorously at an elevation of 5' or less. I switched to a Lone Wolf last year with a rock climbing harness and spent all summer doing test runs in my yard at under 5' with both the climber and the harness including stepping off the stand with the harness on.
Your stand looks great and I wish you luck this coming season!
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From: Live2Hunt
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Date: 25-Mar-21 |
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I switched to a rock climbing harness last year also, great switch is all I can say.
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From: Supernaut
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Date: 25-Mar-21 |
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Live2Hunt X2. I'll never go back to a vest style harness.
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From: Keefers
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Date: 25-Mar-21 |
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That was my favorite stand I ever had and now I hunt the ground. I sold mine in lat 1990s and miss it .Had a Summit but still not the same as the Loggy. Looks great you did a good job.
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From: Yellah Nocks
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Date: 25-Mar-21 |
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Thanks guys. I will look into a rock climbing harness.
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From: Live2Hunt
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Date: 25-Mar-21 |
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Something just popped into my brain. I think you could use the rock climbing harness as a sit and climb type apparatus. May have to investigate that.
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From: Supernaut
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Date: 25-Mar-21 |
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Live2Hunt, I never considered that but now that you mention it, it may work. Worth a try at least.
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From: Trailsend
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Date: 25-Mar-21 |
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I have one for sale with climber 75.00 Plus shipping.
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From: Trailsend
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Date: 25-Mar-21 |
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I have one for sale with climber 75.00 Plus shipping.
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From: Crow#2
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Date: 25-Mar-21 |
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Here's mine b e yellow nocks. I've got my summit but will do my mod on this liggy asap
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From: Crow#2
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Date: 25-Mar-21 |
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The angle piece see pic that bandcwent in is about 8 in long. I will have a flat steel bar same size. A 3/4 in square steel tube centered and welded to the bar. Then the bar is bolted to that angle piece.see pic.tben I woll use one of those change type straps Slid down in the tubes and a captured clevis pin through it and chain just like the factory ones. Only adds about 12 oz or so.
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From: Yellah Nocks
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Date: 25-Mar-21 |
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Live2hunt. Smart feller. Gonna ask a young man who rock climbs at church.
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From: Crow#2
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Date: 25-Mar-21 |
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Pic didn't show
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From: Crow#2
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Date: 25-Mar-21 |
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So if you don't tryst the weld or the 6@ 5/16 bolts. Then the clevis pin will be going through the square tube and flat steel bar and the original aluminum angled piece.
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From: reddogge
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Date: 25-Mar-21 |
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I used to love mine, very stable once locked in. However, my weak knee and stiff cramping legs wouldn't let me use the bungee cord to lock my feet in it or take them out once up in the tree so I sold it.
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From: Yellah Nocks
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Date: 25-Mar-21 |
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Crow2...can you weld steel to aluminum? If not...hekkin ey.....Bolt it! But you have quite a solution rollin' around in your invention file cabinet!
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From: Crow#2
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Date: 25-Mar-21 |
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No the steel tube is welded to the flat steel bar. Then the bar is bolted to the aluminum bar that the band use to slide into. Read my explanation above slowly
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From: Yellah Nocks
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Date: 25-Mar-21 |
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I re-read it and I Understand what you're doing. Should work well.
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From: 1/2miledrag
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Date: 26-Mar-21 |
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Great job on the Loggy restoration! Looks nice
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From: Yellah Nocks
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Date: 26-Mar-21 |
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Thanks! It was fun. You want to get it right and it can be a challenge, but this way it is exactly what you want.
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From: Kanati
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Date: 26-Mar-21 |
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Had one and loved it! Then i bought the first loggy with the cable. Thats what i use now. I bought the summit open shot top to go with the loggy bottom.
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From: Yellah Nocks
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Date: 26-Mar-21 |
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Kanati...smart move. I had a Loggy way back and I took off the seat assembly. I mounted 2 channels from a Northstarr Arrowstar which used a vee belt and two pivoting cams. The entire bottom weighed 6 lbs when I shaved the platform size. I used. Lone Wolf top. Whole thing was ridiculously light. I had left bowhunting due to shoulder issues and sold EVERYTHING. Now I am attempting to put things back in place. If the rock climbing harness can be used as a sit and climb device that Loggy hand climber part will get parked in the shed.
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From: Yellah Nocks
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Date: 26-Mar-21 |
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Kanati...smart move. I had a Loggy way back and I took off the seat assembly. I mounted 2 channels from a Northstarr Arrowstar which used a vee belt and two pivoting cams. The entire bottom weighed 6 lbs when I shaved the platform size. I used. Lone Wolf top. Whole thing was ridiculously light. I had left bowhunting due to shoulder issues and sold EVERYTHING. Now I am attempting to put things back in place. If the rock climbing harness can be used as a sit and climb device that Loggy hand climber part will get parked in the shed.
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From: Kanati
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Date: 26-Mar-21 |
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Rich i tried the lone wolf top to but for a all day sit its not comfortable. Also the loggy is longer then any summit which helps when i wear my heater body suit.
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From: Yellah Nocks
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Date: 26-Mar-21 |
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Yep. At this age I must cushion my hinder parts as my heinie has migrated to just above my navel. what might be lighter is a rock climbing harness. I have to check with that young feller at church. He climbs cliffs with just his hands. No ropes no net, just some weird little sneAkers and a bag of chalk dust.
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From: babysaph
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Date: 28-Mar-21 |
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Does it have the band that is wrapped in Rubber? I went for a ride in one of those once. Good thing I had my safety harness on. And could yell for a kid that was nearby to help me
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From: Yellah Nocks
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Date: 28-Mar-21 |
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Yes it has the band. That was not the cause of slippage. Go back to the photos I posted and you will see The Cure for that. 8 #10 self tapping hex head screws driven thru the rubber section into the metal of the platform. Just make certain the heads are exposed so that they contact the tree.
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From: babysaph
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Date: 29-Mar-21 |
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I didn’t know that at the time. I was just starting out and assumed it was the band since that is what was holding me. The studs look like they would work. Good luck
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From: HEXX
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Date: 29-Mar-21 |
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Every time I see a Loggy I get a pain in my back where I broke it when my Loggy slipped five years ago Warning to the wise !
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From: Joe2Crow
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Date: 29-Mar-21 |
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I’ve been using the same Loggy for decades. I’ve tried other climbers but always come back to the Loggy. I learned early on not to climb smooth barked trees with it. Only time I ever felt it slip. I’ve had the seat adjustment pins bind on me a couple of times and thought I was going to have to stay in the tree all night.
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From: Yellah Nocks
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Date: 29-Mar-21 |
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Got them hex heads keeping me from sliding, and white lithium grease on the pins just before season keeps surprises away.
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From: The Lost Mohican
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Date: 29-Mar-21 |
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I have used the Loggy Hang on Lite for a very long time. I recently renpaced the cables, as a safety precaution because of it's age. It is the stand I use when hunting new territory. If I like the location I place a LocOn stand the next year in the tree and leave it for the season. Harness and safety line at all times. TLM
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From: The Lost Mohican
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Date: 29-Mar-21 |
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I have used the Loggy Hang on Lite for a very long time. I recently renpaced the cables, as a safety precaution because of it's age. It is the stand I use when hunting new territory. If I like the location I place a LocOn stand the next year in the tree and leave it for the season. Harness and safety line at all times. TLM
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