From: Jamie
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Date: 23-Mar-21 |
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What would this 2117 aluminum be comparable to in a carbon? Does aluminum react to changes in point weight the same way carbon does?
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From: Jamie
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Date: 23-Mar-21 |
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What would this 2117 aluminum be comparable to in a carbon? Does aluminum react to changes in point weight the same way carbon does?
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From: Pdiddly
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Date: 23-Mar-21 |
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2117 is a 400 spine but tin arrows react far different than carbon..
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From: DanaC
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Date: 23-Mar-21 |
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.407, 8.8 gpi
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From: DanaC
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Date: 23-Mar-21 |
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I *think* I see less effect on carbons by changing point weight and more effect by cutting.
"tin arrows react far different than carbon..."
Yes, and it's hard to quantify. I hope your tuning kit includes heads from 100-250 grains, so you can try them all and see for yourself.
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From: del of logan
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Date: 23-Mar-21 |
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They are a great shaft for a hunting setup for 55+ recurve in my experience. They are 12 gpi per the 3 Rivers chart.
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From: fdp
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Date: 23-Mar-21 |
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A 2117 has a spine of 77lbs provided that shaft is reasonably consistent. That doesn't appear to be an Easton shaft, so it may or may not spine the same.
21 is the diameter of the shaft in 64 of an inch and 17 is the thickness of the wall in thousandths of an inch.
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From: DanaC
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Date: 23-Mar-21 |
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"They are 12 gpi per the 3 Rivers chart. "
My oops, looked at the wrong row on my chart. You are correct.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 23-Mar-21 |
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Keep in mind, carbon reacts quicker to the force of the string from the bow and recovers quicker so the dynamic characteristics is different from aluminum. Aluminum has more inherent mass as well which I like for a hunting arrow, and aluminum will spine exactly the same 360 degrees around the arrow, most carbons won't but there may be some high quality shafts that offer that.
As for reacting to nose weight, there will be a difference, but it works exactly the same...more weight weakens the spine less weight increases spine. I'm an aluminum arrow guy for 90% of my shooting, but the carbon is likely the #1 favorite of most hunters. It's that durability thing too. Best way to find out anything though is to actually do it yourself...like we had to before internet. It's that "teach a guy to fish" versus just giving him a fish thing. Learn by doing and you won't forget.
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From: westrayer
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Date: 23-Mar-21 |
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I shoot the XX75 2117, Easton Aftermath .400, and GT Traditionals .400 spine. Each is slightly different tune. Aluminum is the straightest and most consistant arrow shaft. There have been several tests done on the consistency of various carbon shafts. For the money, ypu can't beat aluminum. Especially as a hunting arrow.
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From: Live2Hunt
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Date: 23-Mar-21 |
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The one issue with aluminums in the 2117 range is the lengths they come in nowadays. Why is beyond me, but they are all 31.5" or 31.375". All the other sizes you can get in 32"+?
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From: aromakr
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Date: 23-Mar-21 |
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If you will read the inscription on the shaft it say's "Carbon Express" are you sure its aluminum? and made in China!
Bob
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From: Jamie
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Date: 23-Mar-21 |
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Yes sir Bob. Definitely aluminum. I’ll will have to try to bareshafts tune these with various point weights. They came as part of a recent bow purchase
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From: MikeT
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Date: 23-Mar-21 |
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2117 is a common size shaft for compound bows.
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From: Iowacedarshooter
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Date: 23-Mar-21 |
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have killed a lot of deer with 2117's........
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From: GLF
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Date: 23-Mar-21 |
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Easton shortened all their longer aluminums I think because compounds today use a release and a loop on the string which shortens draw length. My 2216s used to be 33" now they're 32. 2219s from 34 to 32. Its tough when 32 is your draw. You'll find 2117s will work better if you treat them as 360s as they were designed instead of 400s. They changed the numbers with the new system but not the actual stiffness.
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From: M60gunner
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Date: 23-Mar-21 |
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I have less issues tuning aluminums than carbons. Maybe it’s because I used them for so many years? I do know a500 spine GT doesn’t act the same as a 500 spine aluminum. At least not for me. 2117 was so popular in our club that was the combo to the range gate. Easy to remember. Our early 60# compound bows loved that shaft. I used this size from my 60# recurve as well.
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From: Cameron Root
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Date: 23-Mar-21 |
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I recently got back into them. They tune great to my 78# hill bow. Rooty
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From: Andy Man
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Date: 23-Mar-21 |
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were my main stay aluminum -loved them now regressed in poundage and dropped back to 2016
still use out of my BW PLx with 175 grain points- they really go into what ever I shoot
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From: Wudstix
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Date: 23-Mar-21 |
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Good shaft for 55-60# bows with up to 160 grain tips. 29ish" arrow.
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From: Wudstix
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Date: 23-Mar-21 |
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I prefer 2215 for some set-up and up to 65#
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