Hi all i want to try my luck on pheasents i have the flu flus but stuck on heads thinking of long arm judo or tiger claws any other suggestion thanks

broadhead with a wire stopper behind it.

Magnus small game head or Judos

You will likely wound more with Judo points than you kill. Pheasants are tough critters and a broadhead is the best medicine for them, unless you're lucky enough to hit them as they raise their wings out of the way. :)

Broadheads 100%!! as said all youll do is most likely wound one, with judos. And as ive found out,, a broadhead miss usually reults in an easy find, stuck upright,, judos from the air just tip the arrow over. Harder to locate good luck

We used #4 shot with shotguns on them in Kansas. For birds that tough, fixed broadheads are the best. You can buy shaft collars that stay behind the head, or slide on the arrow. Skip judo or field points as they do tend to cripple more than kill.

I wouldn't use a broadhead if you are also using a dog or dogs. With a flu-flu, the arrow often stays in the bird and the dog could impale itself when it tries to retrieve the bird. If not using a dog, a broadhead would be my first choice.

Took this hen with a RADA sharpened Bear Greenie on the ground. It was a close shot - hunkered down in the snow with only head and neck showing. Hit it through the wings and took out the lungs. It gave no reaction for a long five seconds then flopped around as the end came.

If you are hunting over dogs you might try something like this. Should cut a nice hole in it and still break it down with solid hit if the vitals are missed.

Very good point Orion !!!!

I use plain blunts . They work fine

Yeah, broadheads and dogs don’t mix!

+1 on something other than a Judo. Those are great for shots at ground-dwelling critters where a regular arrow might get lost under grass or leaves, but with an airborne target and a flu-flu, you shouldn’t have to worry about losing many arrows. I’m OK with a Judo-tipped flu-flu on squirrels, though. They don’t get stuck in trees the way some other points do.

And the other thing about birds like that.... You're most likely to connect on a going-away shot, and a Judo has a way of just pushing them along, rather than getting much penetration..... and you won’t ever forget the sight - having connected on a flushed bird - of said bird sailing off over the crest of a knoll with an arrow up its tailpipe.... At least I haven’t, and that arrow was a American Eagle, so it was a while back. 2016, fletched 1 blue & 2 white. I can still see it.

I am fairly certain that a broadhead and maybe even an Ace Hex would have penetrated far enough to pile the bird up on the spot. And that was a Blue Grouse; they appear not to be anywhere near as tough as a rooster with a season or two under his belt.

Absent a dog, a broadhead sounds like the call to me.

The preserve I hunt won't allow sharpened heads. Here are a few points we use. Have fun! I'm ready to try for field geese!

I use a regular steel blunt and Zwickey Scorpios. The Scorpio looks like Judo springs but slides up the shaft. Besides no broadhead to worry about with dogs this combo gives you two benefits. It doesn’t impede penetration and the Scorpio slides down the shaft preventing a pass through.

Forgot to add Snaro’s and Judo’s bounce off more than connect. I’ve seen it many times.

And those snaros are SOOOOO freakin’ heavy.....

I think the ones made with weedeater line for the hoops are a lot more interesting.

I’m starting to think maybe an Ace Hex with a Scorpio behind it…

My opinion is you need to skewer them either with a good field point if your using dogs or a broadhead. We hit thirteen on the fly with judos and snaros and six we pounded hard one day when we could not use broadheads because of dogs. We used recurves and longbows up to 65 lbs. Most of the shots were flying away as we walked up behind pointing dogs. The feathers would just fly as we pounded them but they all got uprighted and flew on to the adjacent property. We could not believe their toughness and these being ranch birds. I shot one on the fly with a field pt. on another hunt and it penetrated it fully and the wt. of the arrow brought it down so I could shoot it again.Just my opinion but I am sticking with it.

Here's a pic of what I use.

Broadheads for sure. I killed a pheasant once with a field point.....once. It was a lucky shot. The arrow went through its rear and out the neck breaking it. He fell like a rock. Frank

I made up some the same as Kraft but used wood arrows with aluminum footing.

Dynamite. A hit every time. Little cleaning. The large wire judo or zeolite.

Benelli 12 gauge (lo)

I've used and liked the ones shown in Two-more-steps first photo. If your hunting with a dog you would have to be real careful if you used a broadhead so the dog doesn't get hurt if he grabs the bird.

That makes me wonder, though… Do you think that you could train a dog to avoid picking up a bird in such a way that it’s going to get tangled up with the broadhead?

I’m thinking something like five-alarm wooden arrows or something… Sprinkle habanero/ghost pepper sauce on the ends of your arrows so the dog learns to stop and pick up the bird/dummy carefully, rather than crashing right through it at 40mph the way all of our dogs always did.

Maybe the guys who go stumping with their hounds have a few tricks up their sleeves for preserving their fletchings??

Frank,, So you gave him an enema the hard way.

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