From: Bret c.
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Date: 13-Jan-21 |
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Hearing allot about states wanting to outlaw them for hunting. Don't really want to stir the pot but can someone explain the difference between using a game camera, and using a fish finder? Fish finders are also allowed in fishing tournaments! So are they going to be banned also?
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 13-Jan-21 |
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Don't have an opinion and I don't see any harm in them. Usually they show you where the deer are at night. Fish you can catch and release though, so then there is that. :)
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From: Jon Stewart
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Date: 13-Jan-21 |
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This guy wants to know the same thing, lol
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From: Matthew Wilson
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Date: 13-Jan-21 |
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Up to a couple of dozen on EACH waterhole here in N.Nevada. It just kinda gets outta hand. They banned them August 1st through the season. I guess it's a supply/demand kinda thing. Matthew
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From: JusPassin
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Date: 13-Jan-21 |
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"Outlaw them for hunting", so you can still use them for non-hunting purposes?
So funny, people who pass laws such as this never even consider what it would take to implement enforcement.
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From: GLF
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Date: 13-Jan-21 |
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If you can't tell the difference no one will be able to tell you.
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From: Pa Steve
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Date: 13-Jan-21 |
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Maybe it's geared towards public land. It would be almost impossible to enforce on private land.
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From: Kanati
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Date: 13-Jan-21 |
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I hunt all public land. Who is walking the woods to look for them?! Here in NJ the game wardens have been so cut down in size that i havent been checked in 10 years! I dont use cameras but there are bigger things to worry about. Where i hunt its quads! They cant even stop those kids!
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From: Kanati
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Date: 13-Jan-21 |
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I have nothing against them but i dont use them on public land cause they steal them!
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From: Missouribreaks
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Date: 13-Jan-21 |
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Is it a fact states are seriously considering outlawing cameras? I have not noted that, but obviously nobody can be on top of all states.
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From: GLF
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Date: 13-Jan-21 |
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I think its mostly states with big outfitters. They use a ton of game cams and crews of guys to keep the animal pinpointed till the rich guy comes to kill it. No chosen animal has a chance.
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From: Jeff Durnell
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Date: 13-Jan-21 |
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I'd like to see them outlawed on public land at least. I hate em.
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From: 4nolz@work
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Date: 13-Jan-21 |
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Lol the evil rich guys.It must be a Western hunting thing I don't see a reason why for the SE where I hunt.
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From: M60gunner
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Date: 13-Jan-21 |
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One of my shooting friends made a comment about 10 or more cameras around one waterhole here in AZ. Especially before Elk season. This was actually brought up in the state legislature but they don’t have the authority. Game and Fish does. The public has until 1 Feb to make their case one way or the other. Then it goes to council for a vote.
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From: bigdog21
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Date: 13-Jan-21 |
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Dont have a cam. are a fish finder, but as the wourld progresses this is what people want easyer ways, I mostly hunt private.and on state ground one week a year, so I do my thing and let others do theres. (I still like to give them a hard time ) LOL.
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From: Jon Stewart
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Date: 13-Jan-21 |
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For the haters? Why do you dislike them? How do they help or harm hunting. A buck rub , poop and a runway lets you know the deer are around.
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From: Redfeathers
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Date: 13-Jan-21 |
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Yes, that deer is keeping an eye on this thread! nice Jon:)
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From: Everglades Bound
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Date: 13-Jan-21 |
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In the context of the OP "...can someone explain the difference between using a game camera, and using a fish finder? Fish finders are also allowed in fishing tournaments! So are they going to be banned also?", seems like this question as posed is in some sort of "fair chase" flavor.
Who's to say that if game camera's are outlawed, that it has nothing to do with fair chase? Maybe it's because game cameras are like litter if left out in places where no one picks them up. Ugly disgusting non-biodegradable litter. Maybe even a fire hazard under the right conditions (just spit balling here). But if litter is the angle then there's your difference. Fish finders aren't littering the bottoms of the lakes and oceans.
What would be interesting to me is to know is WHY are game camera's are being outlawed and we take it from there.
What would be interesting to me is to know WHY are game camera's are being outlawed and we take it from there.
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From: M60gunner
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Date: 13-Jan-21 |
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Not a hater. Not a user either. In fact I think it would be comical to see 10+ hunters staked out around a waterhole waiting for an Elk.
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From: Jeff Durnell
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Date: 13-Jan-21 |
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Jon, my dislike of them isn't about fair chase, their effectiveness on game, or that another hunter has an advantage I don't have. I couldn't care much less about killing a deer or elk these days, they can have every one of em. It's more about my solitude and privacy in the woods. I value that and feel if I don't have it, why even bother?
I also have cherished mushroom hunting spots and go to great lengths to not be seen coming or going or let folks know what I'm doing in there and then Smile! You're on candid camera! That always sucks. This past October I got all tore up carrying bags of sheepshead through multiflora rose trying not to have my picture taken on the only open trail... that I maintain solely to get in to those mushrooms, because someone put a camera there thinking it was a deer trail. Got my picture taken going in, but not coming out with those mushrooms. The rose made sure I paid a price though. It's gonna go down a little different next time.
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From: Verdeburl
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Date: 13-Jan-21 |
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Can anyone list the states that are discussing outlawing the use of game cameras? Perhaps I don't know what perhaps others know. I haven't heard anything about this.
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From: Jon Stewart
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Date: 13-Jan-21 |
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Well I have them on my property as you can see from the above photo. The only time I have put them on public land is when someone was messing with my grandsons ladder stand. Wanted to see who it was.
They really don't bother me in the least. Don't make it any easier to shoot a deer. You still have to pull the string back.
I would like to know the governments reasoning behind banning them.
I think the government is too much into our business now as it is.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 13-Jan-21 |
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People worry about the darndest things nowadays.
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From: Rick
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Date: 13-Jan-21 |
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Difference in game cam and fish finder.fish finder will show you where fish are you still half to make them take the bait it don't tell you where they travel and what time of day they will be there.and if fished properly will not kill fish. Game cam will tell when where what time and how regularly they are there and when to be there. To shoot at for dead deer not releasable for another day. I don't need neither to be successful.
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From: 4nolz@work
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Date: 13-Jan-21 |
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Fish finder is like using a drone more than a game cam.Real time information.
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From: babysaph
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Date: 13-Jan-21 |
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George you hit the nail on the head. Most of my deer are all nocturnal
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From: DanaC
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Date: 13-Jan-21 |
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I know of three stands in fairly close proximity to each other. #'s 1 and 3 belong to one guy, he has cameras at both. Guy in the middle doesn't. Guess who shot an 8-point?
Murphy still has a sense of humor ;-)
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From: babysaph
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Date: 13-Jan-21 |
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And just passing is also correct. Unenforceable. Just like we have several counties in our state that have no baiting for deer but you can feed birds and squirrels hahahaha. Please don’t insult my intelligence. But deer won’t pass on CWD if the are eating bird and squirrel corn. It’s only when the eat the deer corn where the problem comes in.
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From: babysaph
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Date: 13-Jan-21 |
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Everglades bound. It’s not litter they are worried about. It is unfair for rich guys to use them when other guys can’t afford then. Lol
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From: babysaph
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Date: 13-Jan-21 |
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And Rick. None of the deer are ever at the areas I hunt when I’m there but you are right. It’s the same time every day. Between dark and daylight that the appear
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From: Stephengiles
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Date: 13-Jan-21 |
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A fish finder never took a picture of me. I don’t care about using them for animals but I don’t go to the woods just to get my picture took without my permission.
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From: Stephengiles
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Date: 13-Jan-21 |
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A fish finder never took a picture of me. I don’t care about using them for animals but I don’t go to the woods just to get my picture took without my permission.
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From: Everglades Bound
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Date: 13-Jan-21 |
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I have a couple of Browning Edge Spec Ops cameras that I fondled as much as my tarpon flies and bows. I'd never fondle a fish finder.
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From: stikbow208
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Date: 13-Jan-21 |
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If you hide them good nobody will know they are there.
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From: stikbow208
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Date: 13-Jan-21 |
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If you hide them good nobody will know they are there.
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From: stikbow208
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Date: 13-Jan-21 |
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If you hide them good nobody will know they are there.
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From: Nevadabulls
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Date: 14-Jan-21 |
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“ The Hills Have Eyes” In Nevada not illegal to use them on private. On public land they cant be used while there is any open big game season besides lion which is year round. The 70 million acres of public land is the problem and the onslaught of guides and “mountain experts” carpeting bombing every known spring with cameras. Just the traffic of people frequenting the springs checking their cameras isn’t enough, many of them will pay a “bounty” for the information if a trophy class animal gets its pic taken. Got so bad last couple of years guides were posting on social media threatening that they had hidden cameras watching their camera because they were getting stolen! Had a friend sitting in a blind on a bull wallow, right at prime time ATV rolls up to check his camera, happened all the time. Sad that it has become a nightmare for a regular guy just putting out a couple of cameras after work. We’ve gone way beyond that to the point something had to be done. I totally agree they should not be used during an open big game season.
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From: rxbob
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Date: 14-Jan-21 |
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I think what they are talking about are the trail cameras that can show a real time picture of a deer on your cell phone.Essentially you could sit around and if you see a deer coming quick head for your stand.Question if this is fair chase or not.
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