| From: arrowchucker
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| Date: 03-Jan-21 |
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I’ve had this bow for years. Occasionally shoot it. Today It started lifting on the back. I ( think) it’s linen but not sure. Can I glue it back down ? It has about 4 spots.
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| From: Knifeguy
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| Date: 03-Jan-21 |
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That’s a beautiful old bow. Hope you can save it. I don’t have any experience in this case, and with that said, I don’t see why you just can’t coat it with glue as long as the wood is ok. Maybe even wrap the areas of concern. Lance
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| From: Runner
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| Date: 03-Jan-21 |
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Better to remove it and replace it.
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| From: arrowchucker
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| Date: 03-Jan-21 |
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From what you see, It’s linen?
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| From: Bassman
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| Date: 03-Jan-21 |
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That could be some wood lifting. I can't tell by the pics. The bow is really dark. If you don't mind changing the patina you could carefully remove the backing ,and use raw hide, or better yet sinew to back it again. Rawhide takes well to dye,or stain, and you could match the color.The fact that the backing is lifting in those spots could mean the bow wood is weakening from stress in those spots from use ,and age.
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| From: Runner
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| Date: 03-Jan-21 |
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It almost looks more like glass.
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| From: Zbone
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| Date: 04-Jan-21 |
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Way cool looking bow... Got pix of whole bow? Is it a steam tipped selfbow or wood laminated backed with linen? Something that unique I'd try to sinew back it maybe... Then finish with snakeskin or rawhide...
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| From: arrowchucker
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| Date: 04-Jan-21 |
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Runner, the fibers look like cloth , fuzzy tips.
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| From: Bjrogg
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| Date: 04-Jan-21 |
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Arrowchucker I was wondering if it was just the backing to.
I’m wondering what the un backed version would have looked like.
If it had a ring chased it might not even need the backing.
I’m thinking to re back it you will have to remove old backing before applying a new backing.
Bjrogg
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| From: Runner
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| Date: 04-Jan-21 |
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Ids there cross weave as well? Do you know the age and origin of the bow?
In the past linear silk and fortisan backings were used.
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| From: arrowchucker
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| Date: 04-Jan-21 |
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Does not seem to have cross weave. Have no idea how old. Got it from an older gent who got it from his grandpa. 40’s?? How would Igo about removing the backing?.
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| From: Runner
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| Date: 04-Jan-21 |
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It's unlikely to be linen then. Likely fortisan. You'd have to peel it and scrape it etc. unless you can get the glue to release.
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| From: Stixnstones
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| Date: 04-Jan-21 |
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You could wrap those spots with sinew or artificial sinew... but knowing that bow is considerably older, it's probably time to retire it and just admire the beauty and fun memories of shooting it. Just my 2 bits....
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| From: Jackaroo
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| Date: 04-Jan-21 |
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They used whale baleen as a backing. The fibers sticking up look like baleen fibers. There were multiple examples of this in the pope and young museum when it was in Seattle. Those bows looked similar to yours.
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| From: Bassman
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| Date: 04-Jan-21 |
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I just saw 2 young ladies making native art on pieces of baleen on life below zero. They carved pics. of whales on the baleen. Their carvings looked very nice. They sale them to subsidize their income.
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| From: arrowchucker
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| Date: 04-Jan-21 |
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Jackaroo. Never thought of that. The fibers do run all the way w/o any breaks or slices. Ca;it be repaired or do I have to remove it?
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| From: Runner
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| Date: 04-Jan-21 |
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Baleen is apparently more like hair, not fuzzy fibers.
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| From: Jackaroo
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| Date: 04-Jan-21 |
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From what Glenn St Charles told me each strand was from a foot to 3 feet long. He said it was used much like sinew. I imagine they used hide glue. If it was mine personally I wouldn’t remove it if I was sure it was baleen. I would try to repair it using hide glue but probably not shoot it anymore. It’s a fairly rare piece of archery history. I doubt you will ever see another one.
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| From: Runner
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| Date: 04-Jan-21 |
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The pictures I've seen make it look more like horn strips applied in single slats, not in fiber form.
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| From: Primitive sniper
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| Date: 04-Jan-21 |
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Your one of the few who has shot a bow that old , here are some pictures of bows in the Pope and Young museum of that Era , hope you get her fixed .
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| From: Runner
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| Date: 04-Jan-21 |
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Meaning it's the plate portion used, not the actual hairs.
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| From: Bassman
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| Date: 05-Jan-21 |
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The bottom bow in that picture has a profile that is very impressive, even by today's standards of making a premium bow. Finally I get a good look at the Pope and Young bows. Thanks for posting pics. Primitive Sniper. Would love to string that bottom bow ,and shoot it through a chrony just out of curiosity.
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| From: Eric Krewson
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| Date: 05-Jan-21 |
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Just a WAG but it could be rawhide that someone wrapped a tight cloth around to fix it in place while the glue dried, this would leave the cloth impression in the rawhide.
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| From: Runner
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| Date: 05-Jan-21 |
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There is visible strands though.
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| From: arrowchucker
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| Date: 05-Jan-21 |
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This before any problems showed up
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| From: arrowchucker
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| Date: 05-Jan-21 |
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I love shooting this old bow! It still throws a arrow hard. And just a “Thump” for noise
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| From: Bassman
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| Date: 05-Jan-21 |
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Then scrape the back off, and sinew back it. It's not space science. Plenty of vids on sinew backing.
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