sand & refinish

looks like the new grip shape flows with with lines of the wood much better.

Hutch

Very nice job 2bears.

looks great to me

OK!

I want to jump on the say something nice bandwagon but I have to be honest here...I'm skeptical of how well all the laminated mosaic silkwood accent bits (in that high stress area) will hold up over the long term (without the extra beef) as there's a lot going on in that area...which I believe is why Norm Johnson was so resistant to offering up such a low grip profile as I think there's a chance it just doesn't bode well with the construction part of the design.

I guess the next 10,000 shots will reveal the truth and meanwhile?...you know I'm rooting for you 2 bears! :)

Ken you certainly do great work! Ive recommnded you to several guys. The bob lee you lightened for a buddy this past winter turned out great.

I think you're wrong Jinks. The portion he took off has no structural stress on it. Now if he'd have made the throat smaller I'd agree with you.

Interesting. Did you leave it somewhat flat too?

JusPassin:

"I think you're wrong Jinks. The portion he took off has no structural stress on it. Now if he'd have made the throat smaller I'd agree with you."

And I hope I'm wrong....I like Ken and moreover would never wish bow failure on anyone but "Riser Flex" is a real thing and getting tight glue joints through multi-layer curvy contours is a difficult thing and while you are correct in that reducing throat size would be eve riskier?...what he removed ain't all that far out of the woods (so to speak) and what he removed?...was definitely adding some structural strength to that area and now?...it's not.

Maybe Norm J. was just playing things to the super safe side as he sure had far more to lose concerning failures of his bows but I still think what I'm pointing out is why he only ever offered two grip angles...High and Medium...and "Low" was never on the menu for some reason which may have something to do with the Blacktail "Lifetime Riser Warrantee"

A couple excerpts from BT's website...

"Every riser incorporates an internal structural laminate buried within the back portion that not only acts as a stiffener but also prevents cracking around the throat area of the grip. This is an especially important design feature given the use of today's higher performing string materials."

and?...

"Grip Profile Options Grip configurations are available in either 'medium' or 'high' wrist profile specifications. See graphic animation below."

and if you go there and look at that Medium/High grip profile graphic?...you will see that no material is removed from the area that's been addressed on this riser in this thread...here's the link.

https://www.blacktailbows.com/bows.html

I'm not trying to be a butthead here but I do think fair warning is a great idea should folks decide to make a trend of this grip modification which seems a bit on the sketchy side to me...just being honest....not negative.

Looks very good.

I did stay a good 1/2" above the throat. The grip is much thicker and wider than the throat. My understanding is the throat would be the fulcrum and the pressure is coming from both ends. Think of breaking a board over your knee. You held it on each end and it broke in the middle even though it wasn't smaller there. I have a Bear Super K that happens to be broke into, exactly like that. It broke into at the throat then de-laminated end to end. I did remove the checkering though. I hope that didn't hurt. I do appreciate your concern though & will continue to ponder such actions. >>>>-----> Ken

The skinniest part of the riser, like the weakest link in the chain, is critical.

That said, every bow failure I've had was in the limbs, mostly at the fades.

The smooth contour of that grip looks comfortable to the hand, Nice

Nice.

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