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beautiful veneers on a board bow?..YEP!!

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6bloodychunks 09-Apr-20
6bloodychunks 09-Apr-20
6bloodychunks 09-Apr-20
Yooper-traveler 09-Apr-20
2 bears 09-Apr-20
The last savage 09-Apr-20
6bloodychunks 09-Apr-20
Tim Cousineau 09-Apr-20
6bloodychunks 09-Apr-20
hawkeye in PA 09-Apr-20
Phoenix 09-Apr-20
Wayne Hess 09-Apr-20
PEARL DRUMS 09-Apr-20
BowAholic 09-Apr-20
Kwikdraw 09-Apr-20
MattS 09-Apr-20
Riverwolf 09-Apr-20
barebo2 09-Apr-20
reb 09-Apr-20
Runner 09-Apr-20
Tucker 09-Apr-20
Buckeye 09-Apr-20
Jim Davis 09-Apr-20
nineworlds9 09-Apr-20
6bloodychunks 09-Apr-20
CStyles 09-Apr-20
barebo2 09-Apr-20
6bloodychunks 09-Apr-20
PEARL DRUMS 09-Apr-20
Runner 09-Apr-20
PEARL DRUMS 09-Apr-20
Andy Man 09-Apr-20
Stoner 10-Apr-20
RobertFl 10-Apr-20
Runner 10-Apr-20
Arvin 10-Apr-20
Arvin 10-Apr-20
YewStix 20-Apr-20
Andy Man 20-Apr-20
6bloodychunks 20-Apr-20
GF 21-Apr-20
From: 6bloodychunks
Date: 09-Apr-20

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nearing completion of my latest bow,

but instead of snakeskin or cloth, i decided to go a different route, and went with some beautiful veneers for the back of the bow.

in looking , it seems nobody puts veneers on a board bow, cause everyone keeps saying they have never heard anyone doing it that way LOL

well,here it is.

From: 6bloodychunks
Date: 09-Apr-20




From: 6bloodychunks
Date: 09-Apr-20

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another pic.

getting closer to being finished :)

From: Yooper-traveler
Date: 09-Apr-20




Wow! Looks great!

From: 2 bears
Date: 09-Apr-20




I like it. >>>>-----> Ken

From: The last savage
Date: 09-Apr-20




More pics obc....

From: 6bloodychunks
Date: 09-Apr-20

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another one.

tomorrow going to hit the veneers lightly with some dark stain, and then wipe it off right away , just to accent these gorgeous veneers.

theres so much beautiful grain that you just cant see in the pictures.

From: Tim Cousineau
Date: 09-Apr-20




Will that effect the poundage?

From: 6bloodychunks
Date: 09-Apr-20




i have not strung it since adding the veneers, as i wouldnt want them to possibly crack since they do not have any finish on them yet.

i would assume it will add a small amount of weight, as they are very thin (like 0.030")

before i clear coat the entire bow, i am going to spray a coat or 2 on the back of the bow only, that way when it dries, i can (in my mind) safely draw the bow without the veneers cracking or lifting.

then i can do a final tiller if it needs it.

and then coat the whole bow :)

ill see if i can get a picture of where i rounded the veneers over into the side of the limb, im pretty impressed with myself LOL

From: hawkeye in PA
Date: 09-Apr-20




Looking Great!! And waiting for follow up.

From: Phoenix
Date: 09-Apr-20




Good luck with that. Your now asking spalted wood with severe grain run off to take all the tension. Glass guys can use that stuff because it's under glass and doing nothing but for looks only. I'd bet some money that breaks. And putting on a couple coats of sealer ain't gonna do a lick in protecting it from cracking btw.

From: Wayne Hess
Date: 09-Apr-20




Looking good , Veneers were board’s at one time too.

From: PEARL DRUMS
Date: 09-Apr-20




Is it a bow or a piece of board shaped like one?

From: BowAholic
Date: 09-Apr-20




:)

From: Kwikdraw
Date: 09-Apr-20




Beautiful, hope it works out for you!

From: MattS
Date: 09-Apr-20




You are a mad scientist bucking convention. Love it!

From: Riverwolf
Date: 09-Apr-20




That is a real beauty ! Its really going to pop when you give it a touch of stain and bring out that grain ;)

From: barebo2
Date: 09-Apr-20




FULL DRAW................? Seriously though, why not try something different. Not like we don't currently have time to burn. I'm wondering what the results are going to be after it's finished.

From: reb
Date: 09-Apr-20




Very nice!

From: Runner
Date: 09-Apr-20




"Its really going to pop "

You got that right.

From: Tucker
Date: 09-Apr-20




That is beautiful! I also predict big problems with the bow breaking or at least the veneers cracking and maybe splitting or peeling off. For your sake and all the hard work you’ve done, I hope I’m wrong. Please report back on how things have gone after you’ve shot it a 100 times or so.

From: Buckeye
Date: 09-Apr-20




Phoenix sounds a little harsh but he speaks the truth... if it were me I'd back that beauty with clear glass ... good luck!

From: Jim Davis
Date: 09-Apr-20




My concern as well.

From: nineworlds9
Date: 09-Apr-20




Slay the naysayers! If it breaks it breaks. Have fun with it!

From: 6bloodychunks
Date: 09-Apr-20




if it breaks ill merely cut the handle off and epoxy it to another board :)

last bow i made you guys told me the handle would pop off lol but am north of 600 shots on it and it hasnt.

im sure it helps that ive only got a 26" draw haha

i do appreciate the criticism though, even if some of it is kinda harsh lol

but that only makes me do a better job to ensure it works out lol ;)

ive got some more pics ill be putting up for those interested :)

From: CStyles
Date: 09-Apr-20




Might be worthwhile to finish the veneers with superglue to stabilize them. Not sure if it would reduce the possibility of grain lifting, but I am sure it wouldn't hurt. Fiberglass cloth an resin as used in making a wood canoe would really secure it.

From: barebo2
Date: 09-Apr-20




After you get the finish on the bow, I'd put it on the tiller tree with a rope and pulley to draw it. Having one blow at or near full draw is not a nice experience - don't ask me how I know.... At least that will let you know if it worked without "shootin' yer eye out kid"!

From: 6bloodychunks
Date: 09-Apr-20




forgive my ignorance,

but why would merely adding the veneers make the bow blow up?

before the veneers it worked just fine, was braced at full brace height and drawn to full draw and held there im sure more than 300 times.

From: PEARL DRUMS
Date: 09-Apr-20




The back of a wood bow stretches and the belly compresses. That veneer isn't simply along for the ride. Buy gluing it to the bow you have now made it a working part of the limb. Its not made to work even the slightest, its made to look pretty under clear glass that is doing all the work. Im not trying to tell you not to think outside the box or experiment. But remember, bows were being made at least 15k years ago. If you haven't seen it before.....well...I would sand the back clean again and just make a solid shooting bow that is tillered well. Add all the bling you want, but dont mess with its bending/working aspects.

From: Runner
Date: 09-Apr-20




A bow with inner bark left on may break for the same reason. It's doing just enough work to localize the sudden change of stress if it pops.

From: PEARL DRUMS
Date: 09-Apr-20




Oh, as far as your handle not popping off? 600 shots is a good weekend at your local shoot, 2000-2500 and you have a solid bow. The advice you're getting is from years of experience and many bows, collectively in the hundreds and thousands. Everything in making self bows has odds to it. Odds are an abrupt fade will hinge, but maybe not. Odds are a too short bow will shoot like a dog and probably break or fret, but maybe not. Odds are a limb working into a glued up handle will pop, but maybe not. Odds are that run off is going to blow, but maybe not. The guys are simply trying to put the odds in your favor. If you are a hunter the last thing you want is a bow to fail you at the wrong time. If youre a target archer the last thing you want is a bow to blow in front of your buddies that you had been bagging to. You dig?

From: Andy Man
Date: 09-Apr-20




I don't build bows but would want a thin glass over the back

but with out bad luck I would have no luck at all kinda guy

From: Stoner
Date: 10-Apr-20




I love that spallted wood. I would bring home all that stuff from the cabinet shop. Otherwise it went into the dumpster. John

From: RobertFl Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 10-Apr-20




Very nice veneer! There was at least one or two glass composite longbow bowyers that put thin veneers over glass or carbon backs. I did a repair on one for a friend that had lifted grain all over the back. I did not want to touch it but got talked into it... Right or wrong I lightly sanded the back to knock the lifted grain down, then I rubbed super glue into the veneer, waited a day or two..lightly sanded, applied super glue again, lightly sanded and sprayed finish over the repair. I don't remember if I used Krystal or Minwax Spar Urethane for the finish. It's been 5 or 6 years and as far as I know the repair worked.

From: Runner
Date: 10-Apr-20




The key there is over glass or carbon is not the same as over wood.

From: Arvin
Date: 10-Apr-20




Don't get upset with the comments. They are meant to be helpfull. I agree with possible failure. But if it stays together we will have a lot of crow to eat! Keep thinking out side the box that what ales life interesting . Arvin

From: Arvin
Date: 10-Apr-20




What makes life interesting

From: YewStix
Date: 20-Apr-20




Has it been to full draw yet?

From: Andy Man
Date: 20-Apr-20




give me time to social distance before you pull it back :>)

From: 6bloodychunks
Date: 20-Apr-20




IT LIVES!!!!

LOL im going to start a new thread about it.

i have been shooting it alot the last few days.

had a few bobbles that ill explain in the new thread :)

From: GF
Date: 21-Apr-20




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