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Tree Saddle

Messages posted to thread:
Big-D 04-Apr-20
Skeets 04-Apr-20
md5252 04-Apr-20
marc 06-Apr-20
Big-D 06-Apr-20
swampwalker 06-Apr-20
Vtbow 06-Apr-20
Nemophilist 06-Apr-20
Big-D 06-Apr-20
Vtbow 06-Apr-20
Vtbow 06-Apr-20
Onehair 06-Apr-20
Babysaph 06-Apr-20
Nemophilist 06-Apr-20
Pvt Smuckateli 06-Apr-20
Babysaph 06-Apr-20
Sawtooth (Original) 07-Apr-20
David Kretschmar 07-Apr-20
Shawn 07-Apr-20
Vtbow 07-Apr-20
SJJ 07-Apr-20
Pvt Smuckateli 08-Apr-20
Shawn 08-Apr-20
Mpdh 08-Apr-20
Onehair 08-Apr-20
Vtbow 08-Apr-20
gradymaci 08-Apr-20
Poppy 08-Apr-20
Gungsu 08-Apr-20
Babysaph 09-Apr-20
Shawn 09-Apr-20
monkeyball 09-Apr-20
Pvt Smuckateli 09-Apr-20
Pvt Smuckateli 09-Apr-20
Shawn 09-Apr-20
monkeyball 09-Apr-20
Onehair 09-Apr-20
Bearfootin 09-Apr-20
Muskyhunter 09-Apr-20
Onehair 09-Apr-20
Andy Man 09-Apr-20
From: Big-D
Date: 04-Apr-20




I’ve been checking out tree saddles for awhile. I tried one many years ago. Back then there was not a lot of info on how to use a tree saddle. I sure couldn’t get the hang of it . ( climbing up was my issue) I could use it ok on the ground. So I sold it . I don’t hunt anymore out of hang on stands. Ladder stands some times.Most of the time on the ground. I was thinking about giving a tree saddle a try with all the info out there these days. Also would one be good for just using on the ground instead of setting on a chair. I would think one could set up behind a tree and swing out for the shot. Just a thought. Anybody use one? Have a very blessed day.

From: Skeets
Date: 04-Apr-20




Take a look at the "Hammock Seat". Since you probably prefer being on the ground and by a tree it might be a good option.

From: md5252
Date: 04-Apr-20




In theory it wouldn’t be a problem. Personally though I think using one on the ground defeats the whole purpose of using one at all. A properly set up ground blind would be just as good. Just my opinion

From: marc
Date: 06-Apr-20




I only hunt from a saddle now. It’s way easier on my bad back than a treestand. I have used it on the ground as a seat for rifle hunting but usually at height with the recurve. Check out saddlehunter for info.

From: Big-D
Date: 06-Apr-20




Thanks Marc for the info

From: swampwalker Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 06-Apr-20




Big-D, that's exactly how I intend to use my saddle on turkey. Two differences, one I'm using a JX3, a hybrid saddle. Two, no swinging out for a shot on turks. They're eyesight is too keen. I'm planning on a ghillie and try my shot quartering away. That's the plan anyway. If I'm unsuccessful, I can go back to a blind. :^)

From: Vtbow
Date: 06-Apr-20




I have been hunting out of a saddle(when in a tree) exclusively for liek 3+ years now. I love the versatility and comfort. I do still own a couple hang on stands but am not sure why! I should really clean out....

From: Nemophilist
Date: 06-Apr-20




Lets see some pictures of the saddles you guys are using on a tree.

From: Big-D
Date: 06-Apr-20




Great info .what method of climbing would be good for a old timer

From: Vtbow
Date: 06-Apr-20

Vtbow's embedded Photo



This isn't a great one, but here I am in a modded Anderson tree sling. I currently hunt out of a Treehopper Recon(new anderson) and guidos web.

From: Vtbow
Date: 06-Apr-20

Vtbow's embedded Photo



Here I am in the guidos late season rifle. I bow hunt from it regularly as well, but you criss cross the bridge sections to give you more range of movement in front of you.

From: Onehair
Date: 06-Apr-20




Nearly 40 years for me . Check out Saddlehunters.com

From: Babysaph
Date: 06-Apr-20




Ain't no way I'm hanging in a tree in that. Lol

From: Nemophilist
Date: 06-Apr-20

Nemophilist's embedded Photo



X2 with Babysaph. The last time I hung from a rope or strap was when I was in my 20s and in the U.S. Army at rappelling practice. Them days are long gone. :)

From: Pvt Smuckateli
Date: 06-Apr-20




It is impossible for me to believe that any treestand could be as comfortable as a saddle; period. I've hunting out of one as soon as Onehair posted his sling seat on this forum back in '09. It changed everything for me when hunting from a tree and every year I think of that thread and pray for him in a prayer of thanks.

All of the saddles that I use are DIY. You can find some very detailed DIY plans on other forums, but it doesn't take all that much. The key is being safe.

My saddle weighs less than 5 lbs when all of the pockets are filled with what I take hunting and I wear it from my vehicle to the tree I will hunt from on any given day. From the ground up I am tethered to the tree so it is impossible to fall. I've hunted opening day of the Virginia bowseason from sunrise to sunset and never got uncomfortable. This doesn't even touch the fact that you have near 360 degree shooting options when in a tree and you can nearly always have the tree you are hunting in BETWEEN you and the game you are after.

It isn't for everyone, but don't sell it short.

Nearly all of my rapelling was from a swiss seat that we tied ourselves - if a saddle was anything like that I would quit hunting!

From: Babysaph
Date: 06-Apr-20




How old are you smuckatelli?.

From: Sawtooth (Original) Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 07-Apr-20




Swiss seat!!! Ahhhhh the good ole days. Never again.

From: David Kretschmar Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 07-Apr-20




I am making the switch this year. Just received my saddle yesterday, and while I have only spent about 30 minutes in it I can already see the potential. And for what it’s worth, those thirty minutes were pretty comfortable. Biggest hurdle right now? Trusting it after spending the last 40 years in tree stands. I’m 64, in decent shape and am looking forward to this season with it.

David

From: Shawn
Date: 07-Apr-20




As far as climbing, get a knaider and 4 Muddy Pro sticks. This will get you roughly 20ft. I received mine 2 months ago and am very comfortable with mine. I use the Mantis and Predator platform along with several sets of sticks I modified. I tried one years ago and never was comfortable with it, now I think they are a game changer!! Shawn

From: Vtbow
Date: 07-Apr-20




I find them more comfortable than even my summit ladder stand. Easier to shift around in wihtout making noise. No pressure points, or cold spots from leaning on the metal. The guidos web(or newer JX3) is like sitting in a recliner in the tree, seriously super comfortable--like a lightweight treelounge!

From: SJJ
Date: 07-Apr-20




I gave one a full season. They are cool. I like it a lot. There are more set-ups, less trimming. I have used other hang on stands less since the saddle but I do like my Lone Wolfe hang and hunt set up too. A tree stand is more comfortable in the long run for me if I"m going to hunt all day. I don't like the fact that it is difficult to use my thigh pockets when in the saddle. Some off-side shots can be tough.

From: Pvt Smuckateli
Date: 08-Apr-20




Babysaph, I'm 48; why?

Plenty of folks 'more experienced in years' than me hunting from a saddle. I think if more folks tried one it would come close to putting lock-on stands out of business. Climbers will always have a niche role but I can't see many advantages for a fixed stand over a saddle other than perhaps taking a pee in a tree or if the optimal tree for your set up has a HUGE trunk. Both of these can be overcome, obviously.

From: Shawn
Date: 08-Apr-20




SSJ, I have found there is no shit you cannot make from a saddle. I can shoot 360 degrees from mine. I add one screw in step even with my Predator platform to make that possible. It's a whole new ball game compared to just 10 years ago. Shawn

From: Mpdh Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 08-Apr-20




No orange required in Vermont gun season?

MP

From: Onehair
Date: 08-Apr-20




I'm 65 and still enjoy all day sits. I am much more comfortable than any other stand I have used. Well over a hundred kills while hanging out.

From: Vtbow
Date: 08-Apr-20




Hey MPDH, nope. No orange required at anytime in Vt. I"m hunting on my own 100% private land that is posted. I carry an orange hat in my bag and put it on when moving around, and take it off when on stand. When on public I wear a hat 100% of the time during rifle.

From: gradymaci Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 08-Apr-20




It's a Thread about Saddle hunting, not Regulations..This is how threads go crazy, pm the OP if your worried about his safety. (Just my 2cents)

From: Poppy
Date: 08-Apr-20




I’m turning the big 60 this year god willing, have been using a saddle for last 10 years; wish I would have tried it earlier, feel safer in a saddle then any hang on or climbing stand, use climbing sticks and leave em up on private land, on public; I can have it set up in minutes . For hunting off the ground, best investment I ever made.

From: Gungsu
Date: 08-Apr-20




Poppy your right on. Last year was my first year hunting from a saddle. Very comfortable and every climb got easier. Hardest time was when it was real cold and had heavy weight bibs on and trying to use my aider with Wild Edge stepps.Wish I would have tried this years earlier. I feel they are safer than climbers and some ladder stands. I'll be 71 this coming hunting season.

From: Babysaph
Date: 09-Apr-20




I am plenty comfortable in my ladder stands.

From: Shawn
Date: 09-Apr-20




Baby, ladder stands are not very mobile! Shawn

From: monkeyball
Date: 09-Apr-20




Do you guys strap on your catheter and bag before you climb the tree..........I mean that has got to be an ordeal when you have to go.

Good Shooting->->->->Craig

From: Pvt Smuckateli
Date: 09-Apr-20




monkeyball - I've stopped 'relieving myself' in pee bottles years ago after I tried the whole pee in a scrape and see what happens experiment. I hit every scrape I see in the woods now, but that is a topic for a different post.

What I do now is just twist to one side while 'leaning' and let'r rip. It isn't difficult to do for a guy but then again now that I retired from the Marine Corps and live IVO Tampa Florida it never gets cold enough where I have to contend with heavy clothes.

This is very cliche but I'll go ahead and write it anyhow -- this is a great time to be a saddle hunter. There has never been so many commercial saddle options available, and nearly anyone can make their own (safe) saddle if you are a DIY type person.

It is a long post, but I recommend anyone who is reading this far down this thread to 'search' for Onehair's original post on this topic. I think it was circa 2009(ish).

From: Pvt Smuckateli
Date: 09-Apr-20




Not sure if this works:

http://leatherwall.bowsite.com/tf/lw/thread2.cfm?forum=23&threadid=197004&category=

From: Shawn
Date: 09-Apr-20




What don't guys understand? In a saddle you can actually turn out your back to the tree and stand on your platform or ring of steps and do the same as if in a treestands. The saddle does not limit access to anything. No different if ya had to shite with a harness on either. Shawn

From: monkeyball
Date: 09-Apr-20




Thanks for explaining PVT, was looking at where all the straps meet and was starting to get nervous.

Hey Shawn, take a chill pill dude, if you have never been up a tree in one how are you suppose to know. Thanks for your smooth answer also.

Good Shooting->->->->Craig

From: Onehair
Date: 09-Apr-20




I just let it hang down and push out from the tree for clearance. No need for bottles unless you have some kind of shortage to deal with.

From: Bearfootin
Date: 09-Apr-20




One hair.........that’s funny. I think the “ shortage “ has more to do with the COLD weather and heavy clothes. LOL

From: Muskyhunter
Date: 09-Apr-20




George Castanza knows about shrinkage (shortage)

From: Onehair
Date: 09-Apr-20




I had a long set last year at -7 and wind at 8. I made no attempt to relieve myself.

From: Andy Man
Date: 09-Apr-20

Andy Man's embedded Photo



think I'll stay on the ground





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