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Are you a crowner or au naturel......

Messages posted to thread:
Jim Davis 04-Feb-20
Andy Man 04-Feb-20
Phil Magistro 04-Feb-20
Yooper-traveler 04-Feb-20
Little Delta 04-Feb-20
Rigs 04-Feb-20
Jeff Durnell 04-Feb-20
Rigs 04-Feb-20
Kwikdraw 04-Feb-20
Knifeguy 04-Feb-20
cobra 04-Feb-20
Bugle up 04-Feb-20
Knifeguy 04-Feb-20
Tom McCool 04-Feb-20
Mpdh 04-Feb-20
Nemophilist 04-Feb-20
Dan In MI 04-Feb-20
Danny Pyle 04-Feb-20
jimwright 04-Feb-20
Buckdancer 04-Feb-20
stykzz 04-Feb-20
stykzz 04-Feb-20
stykzz 04-Feb-20
reb 04-Feb-20
grizz 04-Feb-20
MStyles 04-Feb-20
Nemophilist 04-Feb-20
Jeff Durnell 04-Feb-20
Deno 04-Feb-20
two4hooking 04-Feb-20
M60gunner 04-Feb-20
sir misalots 04-Feb-20
felipe 04-Feb-20
bowhunt 04-Feb-20
Desperado 04-Feb-20
blind squirrel 04-Feb-20
blind squirrel 04-Feb-20
Eskanto 04-Feb-20
Live2hunt 05-Feb-20
M60gunner 05-Feb-20
Live2hunt 05-Feb-20
NY Yankee 05-Feb-20
Stoner 05-Feb-20
TrapperKayak 05-Feb-20
stykzz 05-Feb-20
stykzz 05-Feb-20
stykzz 05-Feb-20
two4hooking 05-Feb-20
two4hooking 05-Feb-20
two4hooking 05-Feb-20
cobra 09-Jan-21
reddogge 09-Jan-21
reddogge 09-Jan-21
Randog 09-Jan-21
Red Beastmaster 09-Jan-21
GF 09-Jan-21
Wayne Hess 09-Jan-21
Kevin Lawler 09-Jan-21
Andy Man 09-Jan-21
reb 09-Jan-21
cubdrvr 09-Jan-21
Wudstix 09-Jan-21
George Tsoukalas 09-Jan-21
Nemophilist 10-Jan-21
Bernie P. 10-Jan-21
Nevadabulls 11-Jan-21
bowhunt 11-Jan-21
Buzz 11-Jan-21
DNG55 11-Jan-21
RymanCat 11-Jan-21
GF 11-Jan-21
From: Jim Davis
Date: 04-Feb-20




I don't crown, stain, or crest anymore. It was fun, but my arrows are projectiles, not objects of veneration, or affection. I do use a different color cock feather.

From: Andy Man
Date: 04-Feb-20




Stain the lower 2/3ds with light stain then the crown 1/3 rd with a darker stain (wipe on stain ) then dip one coat steel wool, dip second coat steel wool and crest then final dip in gloss poly

been doing that for years now

From: Phil Magistro
Date: 04-Feb-20




I've done most every combination I can think of. A white stain (or other color) for a crown is easier than paint if folks don't have a place to paint.

At one point I full-length dipped shafts in yellow or white gasket lacquer trying for the look I remember as a youngster. That does need a separate space because of the fumes.

Aside from looks, I like a crown dip I can see to help me find arrows that slip under grass or leaves when stumping.

From: Yooper-traveler
Date: 04-Feb-20




Depends on my mood. Mostly just seal and go after prep. When I do some for winter I sometimes use a rattle can crest.

From: Little Delta
Date: 04-Feb-20

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For the last 25 years or so I have pretty much standardized on the same arrow finish/colored using two different stains, one for the crown area. I also add a simple crest.

From: Rigs Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 04-Feb-20




From: Jeff Durnell Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 04-Feb-20

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No more dip tubes for me. That phase didn't last long. Too much trouble.

For the last 15 years or so, I either do nothing, just stain and seal... or sometimes, for my hunting arrows, I'll splice a bit of white feather in and then paint white from the splice back to the nock with a rattle can... or just dip them right into a paint can. Makes it very visible going away and upon impact on a deer at dusk and dawn.

Crest? Not lately. That paint dried up long ago. I'd have to be really bored to crest a batch of arrows.

From: Rigs Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 04-Feb-20

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Crown...I like to build arrows that I can see well.

Happy hunting, Jason

From: Kwikdraw
Date: 04-Feb-20

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I try to match 'em to my selfbow projects. Fun and challenging for me. Wyatt

From: Knifeguy
Date: 04-Feb-20

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I’ve finished arrows both ways but prefer the crown dip. I like white and yellow best for visibility but have used darker colors. I’ve also done arrows w/o a crest and like those too. Like it was mentioned, they’re a little faster to make because of the drying time for the crown. Here’s a couple of examples. Lance

From: cobra
Date: 04-Feb-20




Beautiful Kwikdraw. That's what its all about!

From: Bugle up
Date: 04-Feb-20

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I build arrows as a hobby and crowning is part of the enjoyment (and better looks, I think). It is extra effort and mess but all my hobbies take effort.

From: Knifeguy
Date: 04-Feb-20

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And some flu-flu’s just stained and crested. Lance

From: Tom McCool
Date: 04-Feb-20




There is room in the world for both. I have done and seen some very detailed arrows that are really nice. I have see ones made by others, not me, that were stunning. But one of my favorites are still with ones with just sealer and turkey feathers.

From: Mpdh Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 04-Feb-20




Just stain seal and fletch for me. I do like the look of arrows that are crested and you guys do some beautiful work. I’d be afraid to shoot arrows that pretty.

MP

From: Nemophilist
Date: 04-Feb-20

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I like to crown. Sometimes I double crown, and sometimes I do a marble crown.

From: Dan In MI
Date: 04-Feb-20

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I like white crowns for hunting arrows. There are obvious positives after the shot for identifying the hit location.

From: Danny Pyle
Date: 04-Feb-20




I just use spray paint to do the crown

From: jimwright
Date: 04-Feb-20




I like to stain, seal and put on 3 five inch parabolics. It's fun and games and strictly a matter of personal taste but for me an arrow is a pretty small canvas to be artistic on and for that mater so are bows. Though others certainly do, I've never seen "spliced veneers" on limbs that I liked.

From: Buckdancer
Date: 04-Feb-20




I’m working on some Surewoods right now . Just seal them with true oil and write down the spine on them . Good to go ????

From: stykzz
Date: 04-Feb-20

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Date: 04-Feb-20

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Date: 04-Feb-20

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From: reb
Date: 04-Feb-20




Stain, crest, seal.

From: grizz
Date: 04-Feb-20




Old eyes = white crown, all white fletch and white nock under 3 coats of gasket lacquer.

From: MStyles
Date: 04-Feb-20




Jeff Durnell, that flash of white paint and white fletch spliced in really looks good. it’s just enough, I like that.

From: Nemophilist
Date: 04-Feb-20

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Here are ones I made last year.

From: Jeff Durnell Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 04-Feb-20




Thanks Mike. No cock feather, all three feathers are the same. I use Mercury nocks with index tab to get it on the string properly. Going away, and going into a deer, it accomplishes the same thing as arrows with a lot more white on them, with less of the white flag waiving effect than a quiver of fully cap dipped white arrows.

From: Deno
Date: 04-Feb-20

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I like 'em simple Deno

From: two4hooking
Date: 04-Feb-20

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I prefer a full length crown dip. Rustoleum is the sealer.

From: M60gunner
Date: 04-Feb-20

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I am not in a hurry to make arrows so I tend to cap and crest whatever I make. I do cheat on my aluminums and carbons these days. I buy plain wraps and crest and seal them. My woods I spray a cap using my crester and Rustolem 2X paints. I crest and seal using MinWax waterbased Polycrillic. I don’t have a set cresting pattern, I do one and if it’s good I do them all that way.

From: sir misalots
Date: 04-Feb-20




as mentioned above white crowns will tell you a lot

From: felipe
Date: 04-Feb-20

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An naturel works for me; stain then wipe on Minwax till I run out of patience.

From: bowhunt
Date: 04-Feb-20




I usually stain and then spray paint crown with arrow in pvc pipe and finish with 3 coats of wipe on poly.Very easy and not time cumsuming.Functional and looks good.Wont win any beauty contests I admit.

From: Desperado
Date: 04-Feb-20




I am with you 100% Felipe !!!!!

From: blind squirrel Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 04-Feb-20

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I also leave the top 10” unstained and just use a sharpie for cresting >>~> here’s a tip I give each spine group it own crest design

From: blind squirrel Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 04-Feb-20




You would laugh if you seen my crester it’s a cordless screwdriver i bet it runs about 20-25 rpm

From: Eskanto
Date: 04-Feb-20

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Au natural...Vinegaroon for a light stain, a few coats of 100% tung oil to seal, self-nocks and turkey fletch tied on with artificial sinew... can be hard to find in the woods if you miss, but nothing better looking or nicer to shoot for me.

From: Live2hunt
Date: 05-Feb-20




When you guys re-fletch your arrows after paint cresting, does it mess up the cresting when you take the old fletching off?

From: M60gunner
Date: 05-Feb-20




Live, my woods usually don’t last long enough to re-fletch. Actually that can be said of my carbons and aluminums. But the use of wraps makes it easy to strip and redo a shaft or a doz shafts. Now I have read on this site or another that using fletch tape makes it a lot easier to replace a fletch without screwing up the crest. That day may come for me as I did a dozen with tape recently.

From: Live2hunt
Date: 05-Feb-20




"But the use of wraps makes it easy to strip and redo a shaft or a doz shafts." That would be my thought also. I had fletched some carbons without wraps and when I went to refletch a couple, it was hell. Scraped the wood grain pattern right off them. I want to make some woody's this year and want to do it right the first time. All of my re-fletching is done to my target arrows as I am either clipping off parts of the fletch with arrows, or I blow into or through my older targets.

From: NY Yankee
Date: 05-Feb-20




Ive done it many different ways. Last ones I did had 2 coats polyurethane on then Krylon faded out spray with Krylon Crystal clear over that. It was nice. I don't bother with it any more.

From: Stoner
Date: 05-Feb-20




I am a au-natural kinda guy, but it sucks when a stray shot matches the forest floor. Mother nature is king/queen when it comes to turkey feathers and wood grain. Whether 3D or hunt scenarios.

My mentor in archery was a firm believer in crown white, two white fletch & one red cock feather. John

From: TrapperKayak
Date: 05-Feb-20

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Natural/KISS

From: stykzz
Date: 05-Feb-20

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Date: 05-Feb-20




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Date: 05-Feb-20

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From: two4hooking
Date: 05-Feb-20

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Some more full crowns

From: two4hooking
Date: 05-Feb-20

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reverse crest

From: two4hooking
Date: 05-Feb-20

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all yella

From: cobra
Date: 09-Jan-21




I built my own crestor, so I painted everything cuz I had a new toy. I am moving towards stain and natural light wood shafts of late.

From: reddogge
Date: 09-Jan-21

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I spray crown and crest my 3-D arrows. I've had several returned because people know my crest. My hunting arrows have no crown or crest.

From: reddogge
Date: 09-Jan-21

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Hunting arrows.

From: Randog
Date: 09-Jan-21




Nice work everyone.

From: Red Beastmaster
Date: 09-Jan-21




Bare minimum for me. I stain, fletch, then rub string wax from the fletching forward. I buff it in with a cloth. Done.

I started doing it that way 20 years ago after my dip tube poly turned into a solid.

From: GF
Date: 09-Jan-21




I think if I thought I had the skills to do something really fancy, I probably would…

I don’t think it’s a bad decision to spend time doing it if you enjoy the process. I think this is the year I’m going to start doing something along those lines, but it will be 90% functional. Just things to make it easier to locate my arrow when I’ve missed the mark; so far, I have a can of white and a can of bright orange spray paint to work with.

But really, anything that allows me to spend more time engaged in the whole process and enjoying myself is a plus. Where else can you buy yourself hours of entertainment for the cost of a couple of cans of spray paint and a little Testor’s??

From: Wayne Hess
Date: 09-Jan-21




Some are too nice to shoot, A lot of nice arrows guys, Nice Looking

From: Kevin Lawler
Date: 09-Jan-21




Some of the best looking arrows I ever made didn't have a crown or stain. The chundoo was really pale and contrasted great with any dark feather combo. Green was the best.

From: Andy Man
Date: 09-Jan-21




I do what little Delta does (2 different color stains)

From: reb
Date: 09-Jan-21




Stain and then spray paint.

From: cubdrvr
Date: 09-Jan-21




I spray painted half doz with white. Love em. Great for stumping. For snow days I either shot with something solid to grab em or switch to unpainted/chartuse fletch.

From: Wudstix Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 09-Jan-21




Rigs; My plan this year is a scheme much like yours but white and orange cresting. Orange nock with white stain under orange fletch then orange white alternating bans like yours.

From: George Tsoukalas
Date: 09-Jan-21

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I usually crest my hand planed white pine arrows. What pine arrows are shown. I do not crest my shoot shafts or wild rose arrows. Jawge

From: Nemophilist
Date: 10-Jan-21

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A few I crowned and did a little feather splicing. Sometimes I make my arrows plain and sometimes I make them fancy.

From: Bernie P. Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 10-Jan-21




I've only stained and sealed them.I did buy a couple dozen of Kustom King' Tracker arrows that were crown dipped with a single crest at the end of the dip.Loved the look however when I had to refletch them by the time I got all of the quill off there was kind of a slight "trough" remaining.I was able to refletch them but they weren't so nice looking anymore.

From: Nevadabulls
Date: 11-Jan-21




Gosh and I thought I was the only one with an arrow fetish on here. I’ve built so many arrows in my life about every configuration in regards to dipping, cresting etc. I can’t help myself! It all started when I watched that scene in Jeremiah Johnson when the arrow whizzed by Bear Claw Chris Lapp’s face and stuck in the tree, he looked at it and said “ Yep, Crow, Fellow by the name of Paints-His- Shirt-Red”! I knew right then I wanted everyone to know who my arrows belonged to lol.

From: bowhunt
Date: 11-Jan-21




I could go plain Jane or do fancy arrows when I built my own wood arrows.I gravitated to more plain in recent years.Unless I want to build a special dozen Artsy Fartsy and take the time to do it.

One thing about the Crown dip paint is that if you glue on fletchings.When removing the fletchings the crown can get messed up getting the fletch and glue off.Fletch tape is much easier to remove though and keep a clean crown if you want to use that alternative on crown dip.

From: Buzz
Date: 11-Jan-21




Stain and crest.

From: DNG55
Date: 11-Jan-21

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I usually crown dip,spray or in this case I used rit dye.

From: RymanCat
Date: 11-Jan-21




I like both but really like the marbling. To many to show and if I get some x time this week can show maybe some of mine.

I have also tried felt tips and don't like them so much and prefer paint.

From: GF
Date: 11-Jan-21




I really like the look of dye or a clear stain on woodies - PLUS, it seems like it would be a lot less intensive effort than a spray paint or cap dip approach.... Only thing lacking there is the option of a blaze orange cap for hunting arrows....

But now I’m thinkin’ fletch tape might be The Call for carbons and aluminums over paint, since I find myself re-fletching those pretty often. Woodies don’t necessarily live that long for me! LOL..





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