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My idea of pointable

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moleman 1 06-Dec-19
GF 06-Dec-19
moleman 1 06-Dec-19
Knifeguy 06-Dec-19
GF 06-Dec-19
GF 06-Dec-19
moleman 1 06-Dec-19
Babysaph 06-Dec-19
KT 06-Dec-19
timex 06-Dec-19
Wudstix 06-Dec-19
KT 06-Dec-19
1/2miledrag 06-Dec-19
RymanCat 06-Dec-19
Bowmania 06-Dec-19
Jeff Durnell 07-Dec-19
Mortis Sagittas 07-Dec-19
From: moleman 1
Date: 06-Dec-19

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As usual, this time of year seems to put me home after dark because of the time change with no time to shoot. Well tonight, dark or not I was gonna shoot. With that I grabbed my 53-55 Bear Grizz static, went to my target,propped up a light to illuminate the target, stepped back to 20 yrds and let 10 shots fly,one at a time, with concentration on nothing but the center of the donut ,form/ follow through and pushing my bow hand through the SPOT in mind. Amazingly my 2nd shot centered the donut, 2 others touching and the remainder no more than a few inches from the donut. Ive seen numerous debates, theories and thoughts on what pointability is, but to me, the complete understanding was revealed to me me in pitch black darkness with nothing illuminated but the face of the target. Is pointability a thing?? Maybe not for some, but I'm a believer.

From: GF
Date: 06-Dec-19




Try it again using a laser-pointer and let someone else move the target so the range is an unknown.

Not picking a fight - just think it might surprise you. And if not you, then me!

From: moleman 1
Date: 06-Dec-19




Good idea, I'll give it a go one night. I love upping my skills and learning. I figure even if I fail, I'm still learning so I've got nothing to lose :)

From: Knifeguy
Date: 06-Dec-19




Nice to know we can still learn and try new things. Well done Paul. Lance

From: GF
Date: 06-Dec-19




Not bustin’ on ya!

One thing I’ve noticed when shooting at illuminated targets is that they tend to reflect up the shaft of the arrow, so it’s not actually invisible. A friend of mine has mentioned that with a laser pointer, you get very little reflected light. So everything is the same except that you are more completely deprived of the shine on the arrow.

But perhaps not 100%… Because if you LOOK for it, then you may not see a damn signature. On the other hand, peripheral vision is much more sensitive in low light, so you may be able to see you things in your peripheral vision that you cannot see when you look for them.

i’ve noticed that when I use a small, light and colored mark in the middle of a dark target, I tend to hit the mark when I can’t see it at all. That’s because I am seeing it with the center of my vision, which is all color cells, and not responsive to low end intensity light.

Kind of a “you have to be unable to see it in order to see it“ kind of a deal…

Seems a lot like magic, but is actually quite explainable if you Science.

From: GF
Date: 06-Dec-19




Not bustin’ on ya!

One thing I’ve noticed when shooting at illuminated targets is that they tend to reflect up the shaft of the arrow, so it’s not actually invisible. A friend of mine has mentioned that with a laser pointer, you get very little reflected light. So everything is the same except that you are more completely deprived of the shine on the arrow.

But perhaps not 100%… Because if you LOOK for it, then you may not see a damn signature. On the other hand, peripheral vision is much more sensitive in low light, so you may be able to see you things in your peripheral vision that you cannot see when you look for them.

i’ve noticed that when I use a small, light and colored mark in the middle of a dark target, I tend to hit the mark when I can’t see it at all. That’s because I am seeing it with the center of my vision, which is all color cells, and not responsive to low end intensity light.

Kind of a “you have to be unable to see it in order to see it“ kind of a deal…

Seems a lot like magic, but is actually quite explainable if you Science.

From: moleman 1
Date: 06-Dec-19




No offence taken what so ever GF. I love a challenge and the day we stop absorbing ideas and input is the day we begin to fade. One thing for sure, no matter how you do it, dark, daylight or other, solid form is a must.

From: Babysaph
Date: 06-Dec-19




That is instinctive shooting.

From: KT Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 06-Dec-19




Lord help us. Here we go again.

From: timex
Date: 06-Dec-19




pop corn get your pop corn

From: Wudstix Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 06-Dec-19




Used to have a friend in IN who would turn the light on and look at all puff balls(Cottonwood, I think) laying around his yard then turn out the light and hit every one, in the dark. That always impressed me.

From: KT Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 06-Dec-19




I'm thinkin maybe some barley pops.

From: 1/2miledrag
Date: 06-Dec-19




Great shooting sir!

From: RymanCat
Date: 06-Dec-19




Whatever floats your boat. Just to keep condoning the mussels and keep rhythm down.

Of coarse you could say your predator hunting also and practicing.

What happens after dark stays there in the blind? LOL

That's what the Cat says.

From: Bowmania Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 06-Dec-19




Every bow is pointable if you don't swing draw.

Bowmania

From: Jeff Durnell Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 07-Dec-19




Pointable to me means able to bring to target, and follow the target with natural ease. Some are more pointable than others. The more balanced they are in the bow hand, the better they hang at the ready, the better they move into shooting positions, from vertical, through all degrees of cant up to and including horizontal without changing pressures in the hand, and the easier and more natural they are to follow moving game, aerial targets, etc. Light weight bows help too.

Also, the closer the static balance point aligns with the dynamic balance point as the bow is drawn, the more pointable too. Bows that don't require us to adjust for shifting fulcrums during the draw, even if subconsciously, are more 'pointable'. Bringing up to shooting position and following a moving game animal while drawing should be virtually as easy and natural as pointing your finger.

From: Mortis Sagittas
Date: 07-Dec-19




Jeff Durnell X2.





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