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Bare patch on bucks back

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Bugle-up 05-Dec-19
4nolz@work 05-Dec-19
2 bears 05-Dec-19
deerhunt51 05-Dec-19
Pa Steve 05-Dec-19
TrapperKayak 05-Dec-19
BigJim 05-Dec-19
nibler 05-Dec-19
wifishkiller 05-Dec-19
Supernaut 05-Dec-19
4nolz@work 05-Dec-19
Mtquiver 05-Dec-19
TrapperKayak 05-Dec-19
Bowmania 05-Dec-19
GF 05-Dec-19
Sawtooth (Original) 05-Dec-19
RymanCat 05-Dec-19
grizz 05-Dec-19
George D. Stout 05-Dec-19
TrapperKayak 05-Dec-19
Carcajou 05-Dec-19
Wudstix 05-Dec-19
Orion 05-Dec-19
TrapperKayak 05-Dec-19
Kodiak 05-Dec-19
2 bears 05-Dec-19
Bugle-up 05-Dec-19
GUTPILE PA 05-Dec-19
Osage Outlaw 05-Dec-19
George D. Stout 05-Dec-19
GF 05-Dec-19
76aggie 05-Dec-19
Don 05-Dec-19
Rick Barbee 05-Dec-19
deerme 06-Dec-19
David McLendon 06-Dec-19
GBTG 06-Dec-19
David McLendon 06-Dec-19
From: Bugle-up
Date: 05-Dec-19

Bugle-up's embedded Photo



Any thoughts on what causes this bare patch on a bucks back? I've seen it on bucks on videos as well.

From: 4nolz@work
Date: 05-Dec-19




Trauma I think

From: 2 bears
Date: 05-Dec-19




Going under wire fences. >>>>-----> Ken

From: deerhunt51
Date: 05-Dec-19




Me thinks he ducked an arrow!!!

From: Pa Steve
Date: 05-Dec-19




Hair rubbed off from parasites or ticks? I've also seen that on a fair amount of deer.

From: TrapperKayak
Date: 05-Dec-19




He's the Mayor of Whoville.

From: BigJim Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 05-Dec-19
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fences.

bigjim

From: nibler
Date: 05-Dec-19
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brawling with other deer

From: wifishkiller
Date: 05-Dec-19




Ticks

From: Supernaut
Date: 05-Dec-19




Male pattern baldness.

Crossing under a fence or some other obstruction on a regular basis would be my real guess.

From: 4nolz@work
Date: 05-Dec-19




He was rubbing a spalted maple and an instinctive shooter without a coach shot too high

From: Mtquiver
Date: 05-Dec-19




Ticks

From: TrapperKayak
Date: 05-Dec-19

TrapperKayak's embedded Photo



From: Bowmania Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 05-Dec-19




He was going to town and stopped at the barber.

Bowmania

From: GF
Date: 05-Dec-19




I miss read the title of the thread, and I was staring at that rack thinking… I just… Don’t… See…

I don’t know about this guy, but I did once see a fallen tree angled directly over a deer bed, with a bunch of hair, a little fat, and some blood smeared on the underside of the downed tree.

My best guess was that he got bumped really, REALLY HARD and jumped up so fast that he slammed into the tree.

From: Sawtooth (Original) Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 05-Dec-19




Ducking beneath the same place in a fence. But I think he’s got bigger problems at the moment. :)

From: RymanCat
Date: 05-Dec-19




Yotte attack?

He lays on his back and scratches like a dog? LOL

From: grizz
Date: 05-Dec-19




Going under fences.

But male pattern baldness was an excellent response. ;-)

From: George D. Stout
Date: 05-Dec-19




Yep, fences. A deer will always go under a fence if given the time to do it versus jumping.

From: TrapperKayak
Date: 05-Dec-19




Matt, I found a dead 5x5 bull under a fallen tree, in its bed once in MT. Killed it dead... :)

From: Carcajou
Date: 05-Dec-19




But Deer Typically JUMP fences, Picture a Buck with horns, crawling commando style under a fence...

That particular pic shows the rub farther back than most. Normally a buck with a larger rack will tend to rub the same couple of spots on his back near his shoulders, when continually hitting licking branches,above scrapes.

From: Wudstix Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 05-Dec-19




Hmmm

From: Orion Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 05-Dec-19




Would like to see a head on pix of the area. There's a good chance it was cut by a broadhead. I gave a doe a haircut like that quite a few years ago. The rest of the fall, it was very easy to identify at a distance after that. Hair may have grown back sufficiently after a year or so because I wasn't able to see any such markings on the deer I saw in the same area a year later..

From: TrapperKayak
Date: 05-Dec-19




I've seen both - bucks jump, and crawl under fences. Most amazing thing I have seen was a very large racked buck crawl under a 4 strand that the bottom strand was no higher that 10" above the ground. He ducked his head just right to get it under and continues through with one fluid motion, rather fast. Amazing agility and strength in these critters. I called in a 5 pt bull once along a 4 foot high fence, and it got too close so I stood up, his eyes bugged out, and he jumped from a dead standstill clear over that fence like it wasn't even there. Didn't catch a hair. I find deer hair all the time on fences around here, both on the top and bottom strands.

From: Kodiak
Date: 05-Dec-19




Could've been anything.

From: 2 bears
Date: 05-Dec-19




Don't know about that particular buck. I find regular fence crossings by looking for hair on the wire strands. By hunting those crossings I have seen many go under and a few work their way between strands of barbwire. In areas of many poor fences a lot of deer have a bald spot on their back.>>>----> Ken

From: Bugle-up
Date: 05-Dec-19




That's the best picture I have of the bald spot. Now I wish I had taken a closer look and taken a better picture. I only thought to post this thread after seeing a buck in a video with the same bald patch. I don't think his antlers are large enough to have made that rub spot when licking branches and there aren't many fences in our area, but all it would take is one fence that he ducks regularly I guess. That maybe sounds the most plausible at this point other than the notion he got creased by a broadhead which is possible too.

From: GUTPILE PA
Date: 05-Dec-19




Fences I shot a few like that and it was always around a farmers land with a fence

From: Osage Outlaw
Date: 05-Dec-19




My buck from last year had that. There was even a small bloody spot in the bald spot. My guess would be from fences but we don't have many in our area.

From: George D. Stout
Date: 05-Dec-19




I go by what I've seen in field, both deer going under fences, and the hair caught on lower strands...or rub marks on lower strands. Around here, deer, if they have room, will always go under unless they are pushed or chasing does. Your mileage may vary of course but that hair on the bottom strand isn't put there by accident.

About a dozen years ago, we had a pretty large buck going under the fence that borders our mountain land in a field just below the woods line. That bottom strand was about eighteen inches off the ground and he had no trouble slipping under it.

From: GF
Date: 05-Dec-19




And I do like the clipped backline explanation.... If you’ve never hit a deer so high in the backline that you were certain that you had missed clean, you probably will at some point.

That’s why I no longer remind myself to not shoot over. If you CHECK the backline, that’s where you’re looking. Helpful hint - NEVER LOOK where you DON’T want to hit.

From: 76aggie
Date: 05-Dec-19




I also think it is caused by going under a fence. Granted, many just jump but many crawl as well. I have see a mature buck running at full speed drop and go under a fence.

From: Don
Date: 05-Dec-19




You don’t see it on does. Only bucks. Scratching back with antlers.

From: Rick Barbee Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 05-Dec-19




Fence. I've seen that a lot.

It's from where they go under a fence, and after they've done it enough they often get a bald spot, and the hair starts kind of combing backward.

It might not be a fence per say, but definitely from repeatedly going under something, and giving himself a hairdo after a while.

Rick

From: deerme
Date: 06-Dec-19




A couple of weeks ago, I arrowed a buck and he took off running ninety to nothing and side swiped a tree, fell dead twenty yards later. I followed the blood trail to him even though I knew where he lay and noticed where he had hit the tree lots of hair lodged in the bark and gobs of hair lying about the ground. Sure enough I found a bald patch on the deer that would have matched up to the tree. Oddly enough there was no hickey at the bald site but then again at that point his blood pressure was quite low I'm sure.

From: David McLendon
Date: 06-Dec-19




He wasn't scratching that far back with those antlers, that's a fence rub.

From: GBTG
Date: 06-Dec-19




I'm with Carcajou and Don. It's not caused by fences.

From: David McLendon
Date: 06-Dec-19




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