When The Samick Sage first came out and I heard how everyone on here was talking it up. I had to try one. And I was impressed with how the bow shot. What I want to know is. You guys that have shot both the Samick Sage and the Black hunter. which one do you like best and why. If you have any pictures of these bows they sure would be welcome.

I haven’t heard any complaints about the shooting qualities of either one, but if it matters to you… You can get a version of the black hunter with much nicer wood and overall quality of finish for a very attractive price. Some of them even have what look like antler overlays on the riser and tips, though I suspect they are made of plastic and not the real deal.

Different horses altogether in design and length. They are cheap enough to own one of each. I've shot both and they are both nice shooters but different feel shooters. No versus here.

The Black Hunter is nicer looking to most, but not as versatile.My choice is the Samick Sage over all. For what you pay for them you won't go wrong with either of them.Just personal choice.

FWIW I have one of each, 45#s, and the bamboo core limbs of the BH are indeed faster. It also amazing hits where you’re aiming, from the very first shots that is (with properly spined arrow); it is a tad more center shot.

But I find the hand position to require a really high wrist and I have a hard time getting comfortable with it, making me to take care in placing my hand - it is not an intuitive grip. But once I ‘get on it’ it is superb for that flight of arrows. The Sage on the other hand just goes right into position in a millisecond.

My son had the Black Hunter from Twig Archery with longbow limbs. It was a good shooting bow. As with all bows it will be personal preference. I have a Sage, I prefer it personally. If I were gonna buy another bow it would be the Southwest Spyder, which is basically an improved Sage. With a good string the Sage shoots better than some custom bows I've shot or owned.

I prefer the Black Hunter, but solely because I think it looks better. Performance wise, I don't think there is any difference worth writing about.

I haven't shot a BH but, inherited a couple of Sage limbs (62")on Metal Cartel risers and they surprised me. Very smooth, quick and quiet. The Cartel risers are very well made and have plenty of inserts for about everything you want. I really like the fact I can use a Berger button on them. I did pull off the grips and set them in clear silicon as they had a loose fit. After the silicon they are good and tight. I even started hunting with one of them.

As a PS, I normally shoot high wrist grips whenever possible, but the Cartel riser is more medium wrist grip and is very comfortable.

What I think is really cool about the Black Hunter is you can either shoot long bow or recurve limbs off the same riser. That's kind of a nice option. The best of both worlds.

I have both and prefer the grip and looks of the Black Hunter, but with my 31" draw length, like the stability of the 62" Sage. If I had to choose one, it would be the Black Hunter.

I have the Red Stag, recurve, Galaxy Ember, longbow and the Black Hunter, recurve. They each have there pros and cons. Stag, is a little heavy, Galaxy, smooth. And Hunter, smooth. I shot all three, as I like to rotate bows. B.H. and Galaxy.

Red Stag.

How smooth is that Galaxy Ember long bow to draw. And how does she shoot White Falcon? The reason I'm asking all these questions is I just ordered the long bow version of the Galaxy Ember.It comes with Bamboo in the limbs. Heard they shot well. Thanks for all the input guys.

What makes the Sage more versatile.

you can get longbow or recurve limbs for the Black hunter, just switch back & forth. don't know of longbow limbs for the sage.

Babysaph,

I am guessing that the reason it maybe considered more versatile is because: You can get limbs to make it a 64 inch bow (Spyder XL from Southwest Archery, same as the Samick Journey), it can be set up to shoot off the shelf, it can be set up with elevated rests because of the Berger Button bushing, it has sight pin bushings, and has a stabilizer bushing. Those bushing also allow for bowfishing rigs. No other bow offers those options especially for its cost. DANNY

Which one do you like best and why?

I like the Sage better because its heavier riser is more forgiving of my somewhat inconsistent string arm forearm alignment. I agree with George D., they are cheap enough to get one of each. The recurve BH has more snap, but the longbow has a more pleasing draw. I find a lot of these used and have not had a problem.

Here is a close-up of the risers.

In my experience with the Black Hunter, the recurve limbs are smoother and stack less than the longbow limbs. I do have a fairly long draw length though at 31".

I have the Sage, and I have had 2 sets of limbs blow up. 45# broke a yearago and now the 35# limbs blew up last week. That's my experience.

I find it to draw with out a pinch. I have a 29.5 draw. I also have a bad shoulder and can draw it with out pain. Had a friend use it last year on a Javelina hunt, because he had a bad shoulder and could not use his wheeler. My first shots out of the box at 20 yds when I got it.

Samick sells probably 100 Sage recurves to one of other models, so the likelyhood of broken limbs, relative to the number of bows out there, is probably no more than any other bow. I've seen lots of bows of all kinds with broken limbs, but not many that you can replace for about $70.00 a pair.

If I had to choose though, for hunting purposes, I would take the Black Hunter for my 27" draw.

I have a Samick Sage,Black Hunter recurve, & Galaxy Ember longbow all 50#. They all are good shooters but personaly I like the Galaxy Ember longbow as I shoot it the best. Its quiet, grip fits my hand, & nice satin finish for hunting.

If a company makes 100 bows to another companies 10, there will be more defects with the 100 count. In 44 yrs I've seen defects in a lot of different brand bows. It happens.

Treeman,

I do have a question for you. What is your draw length? I have a 30" draw and that is why I went to the longer 64" limbs. Most 62" bows I don't have and issue with, but the 62" Sage limbs because of the bow's design, when I drew them they stack at my draw and were loud. I recognized the issue and went with the longer limbs for "THIS" bow and never looked back. If your draw is longer you would be better served with the longer limbs. Southwest Archery has them, they are called Spyder XL limbs. They are the same as what the Journey limbs were (they are no longer made), and will fit the Sage riser to make a 64" bow. So that is a suggestion for you.

I have had Dry Fire situations with my Samick Journey 50#@28" with my 30 inch draw no problems (arrow nocks blew). I had a set of 40#@28" Journey limbs that had a less than 20 shots out of them by me, a guy with a 28" draw, draws them, and the lower limb separated between the limb lamination on the draw of the bow. It does suck, but it happens. Limbs are made of wood, fiberglass, and glue. The wood to make the limbs can have flaws that can't be seen, you can have bad batches of glue, and fiberglass is not with out imperfections. If you look at the Tens of Thousands of these Sage bows that are sold world wide, you are going to get a few lemons for one reason or another. I know of NO item that is made in large quantities that won't have some, that have flaws and break. DANNY

Definitely the Black Hunter because of its grip. After I work on the Sage’s grip I’ll like the longer length. Shooting wise they are very similar.

Linecutter my draw is 26.5. I agree the limbs stack even at my short draw. The riser I still have and 40# limbs that still work. I like the riser, the grip is awesome but I have much better bows. The limbs I had for years before they broke, I shot the 35# limbs alot and used them on a frankenbow. When I shot the 35# Sage limbs along side my 35# Satori limbs there was no comparison. I had to use a higher spine arrow on the Satori.

I dare say your having to use a higher spine on the same weight satori limbs has more to do with the way past center cut riser.

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