From: HighNTree
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Date: 19-Nov-19 |
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I like what I have read here about the Easton Tribute XX75 aluminum shafts. What Tribute shaft size do you think would likely fly well from my setup:
60 inch recurve bow 14-strand Dynaflight 97 string 45# to 47# @ 28” draw (I draw 28 inches) 175 grain point weight
I am currently using Goldtip Traditional 600s cut to 29 inches with a 175 grain points. What spine in aluminum do you think would likely work from this setup?
Thanks for your recommendations.
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From: longbowguy
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Date: 19-Nov-19 |
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Aluminum shafts are heavier than most carbon ones so you should use a lighter point weight for a similar weight finished arrow.
I suggest 1916 left full length to start, with 125 grain points, plus one weight a step lower and a couple higher to start tuning. - lbg
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From: John mccabe
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Date: 20-Nov-19 |
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Yea 1916 or a 2016 with 125 grain
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From: Pdiddly
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Date: 20-Nov-19 |
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1916 with 125-145 grain cut to 29" would be the best choice.
2016 would work if you used the 175 grain points but they would be very heavy and have a loopy trajectory.
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From: Andy Man
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Date: 20-Nov-19 |
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2016 is where I would start
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From: Kelly
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Date: 20-Nov-19 |
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1916’s cut the same 29” length with the same 175 grain point. A 2016 cut the same with same point will weigh just a little bit more and will also shoot for you.
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From: reb
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Date: 20-Nov-19 |
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1916
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From: westrayer
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Date: 20-Nov-19 |
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Call Lancaster Archery and order one or two of a couple diferent sizes..... No sense having a bunch of incorrect shafts laying around afterwards.
A 1916 is a .623 spine
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 20-Nov-19 |
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My 47# Browning Wasp with a low stretch string likes a 29" 2016 with 145 tips and I draw 27". In other words, dynamics aren't etched in stone. We can get you close, and the 1916 isn't a bad suggestion. There are those things within or own personal dynamics that can make the best charts look goofy.
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From: HighNTree
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Date: 20-Nov-19 |
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Thanks everyone for your recommendations. Now I have a starting point. I'll get my hands on a 1916 and a 2016 Tribute and do some testing. I picked up an arrow straightener on the big auction site and I look forward to rediscovering aluminum arrows for the first time in over 25 years.
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From: M60gunner
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Date: 20-Nov-19 |
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“Picked up an arrow straightener “”, first time I have seen that in the posts on aluminums here in a dogs age.
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From: HighNTree
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Date: 20-Nov-19 |
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I subscribe to the old adage: "It is better to have and not need than to need and not have." I have had carbons break and I am sure that I can manage to bend an aluminum arrow. LOL!
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From: GF
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Date: 20-Nov-19 |
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“I'll get my hands on a 1916 and a 2016 Tribute and do some testing.”
Duuuude....
They’re $3 a pop. May as well buy a couple ;)
I was going to say 1916 also, but with lighter points. I shoot a 28” 1916 out of a #55@28” RER longbow with 125 up front and they’re just a shade weak. 2016 might work, depending on point weight, but that’s what I shoot from my old #55@28” Howatt Hunter (Dacron).
I don’t know what point weight Riverwolf had in mind when he mentioned 2018s, but I need a lot more than #55 to make them tuned.
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From: Wayne Hess
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Date: 20-Nov-19 |
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A lot of good suggestions their, good luck
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From: Andy Man
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Date: 20-Nov-19 |
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I like an arrow about an 1 inch over my draw length
have a box of different sized and spined shafts cut to that lenght with a point weight I like to use (Carbons,aluminums and wood)
with a new bow takes matter of minutes to see what will work then write in a file ( what carbon, aluminum and wood work for that bow)
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From: Ghostman
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Date: 20-Nov-19 |
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A 1916 is 623 spine and a 2016 is 510 spine.
If it were me I'd use a 1916 with a 150 grain point which should be very close to your current GT 600's
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From: Fletch
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Date: 20-Nov-19 |
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Most of my recurves draw 40-47#@ my draw length (29").
I will sand my riser wall to make it "more past center" for arrow tuning. By doing this, xx75 Tributes in1816, 1916, 2016, and Gold Tip 3355 traditional ( carbon, blems) all shoot well-being and close to the same vertical line. Lighter shafts shoot a bit higher. I have never cut a shaft. Never. I use them all full length.
Xx75 2016 Tribute shafts normally have 175 grain points. 1916 shafts usually have 150 grain points ( or 125 grains).
The 2016 tributes with 175 grainers have ( to me) the benefit of a lower gap for 3d shooting. Combining the heavier shaft and point, and a higher nock point ( about 1"+ above level/perpendicular) reduces the gap for 20+/- yard shots, with point on distance of about 32 yards. I gap off the top of the strike plate, and it ( top of strike plate) becomes my 20 yard level line for "aiming.". It has worked well for me in 3d competition.
Each bow is different ( and I don't have any high end bows). I use an arrow shaft with a 175 grain tips (heavy, to find the weak spine impact point ( I am right handed). I will sand my strike plate with 36 grain grit sandpaper on a block for 50 strokes or do, and test shoot, and repeat until impact shows "weak" ( right of vertical line/ arrow tip. I adjust back to "dead on" for left/right with proper thickness strike plate. Then adjust up/down with reference to the top of strike plate with nock point position.
So far, so good, but I am still learning and willing to learn from others on how to adjust arrow flight and point of impact.
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From: HighNTree
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Date: 20-Nov-19 |
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Good ideas. I'll try a 1916 and a 2016.
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From: longbowguy
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Date: 20-Nov-19 |
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Get several point weights for each; they are cheap.
Also note that you could start tuning with them left full length. Then you can trim a bit at a tie with a little tubing cutter from the hardware store. Chamfer the cut end with the tang of a file.gh
1916 is reasonably tough but your straightening tool will pay for itself after foul hits. I have a couple of 1916s left that have been in regular use for 30 years. It is a great shaft, light enough for a nice trajectory to 80 yards and tough enough to last. - lbg
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From: GF
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Date: 20-Nov-19 |
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The other nice thing about a 1916 is that it makes the math awfully easy… 10.0 GPI, I believe....
No argument intended, Fletch, but I think I would much sooner trim down a shaft than sand down a perfectly good bow!
But I also like having an arrow that is just long enough to shoot safely. No full- length shafts for me…
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From: Fletch
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Date: 21-Nov-19 |
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Gf, No worries for your comment.
I'll offer that shortening a shaft makes it stiffer. I'm looking for making a heavy shaft (2016) weaker-hense leaving it full length with heavy tips (175 grain). My goal is two-fold: lower gaps, and ability to shoot different shafts to the same left/right/vertical line of impact.
Lnce the riser is sanded past center to condition that achieves my L/R goal, Inuse a small round file to make a small radius to the shelf/riser area, finish sand it, and apply a finish coat of polyuretane. I also file/sand the grip so it fits me. If I didn't tell you what I did, you couldn't tell I did anything to the bow. Bit, when you shoot it, you would see the results for dead on arrow impact.
Again, I am not using high end bows, so I am not "destroying history". I started with a used Samick Journey (35# limbs tossing a xx75 full length 2016 shaft with 175 grain tips for great shooting to 25 yards gapping off the top of the strike plate,and point on at 32 yards...all with 3-under release), same thing for a 37# Wing Gull.
The riser wall is just a fixed "kisser button" that can be "adjusted", by sanding ( not by rotating a clicker setting).
Again, goal of the experiment was to lower gaps. It seems to work for me, and was fun developing the results.
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