Does anyone have a information on the weight of a metal riser 25" ILF with medium or long limbs, without any other accessories (weights, stabilzers, sight etc.)?

Example, WNS says the 25" Motive riser weighs 1,120 grams, or 2.47 pounds.

The numbers I don't see is the typical weight of a set of limbs. I am assuming it isn't that much but it will still make up the overall weight of the complete bow.

I just tried a pair of long wood/glass limbs on my bathroom scale and they didn't register a tenth of a pound. (It's a pretty good scale, too.)

Long stabs. v-bars, sights and rests etc. make up more of the weight of a complete rig.

"I just tried a pair of long wood/glass limbs on my bathroom scale and they didn't register a tenth of a pound."

Thanks, I thought they wouldn't weigh much.

I measure my bow physical weights with a fire arms trigger scale.

Sounds like my 1970's vintage 68" Yamaha one piece target recurve mys weigh more, bare, than a modern ILF rig in the same state. The old Yamaha YG68 shows as 48 oz, or 3 pounds, on the trigger scale.

It depends on the limbs. I have Hoyt Vector limbs that weight twice as much as my Samick extreams at the same pull weight.

Most modern ilf rigs weigh over four pounds. And some of the completion ilf risers are sold with weight plates do the shooter can change the weight of the riser. I just saw the Bosen Archery's riser with weights everywhere.

The added weight is supposed to help stabilize, but I don't care for it a bit, especially after lugging it around a 60 target 3d. Might as well be carrying a wheel bow.

I much prefer a bow 2 pounds or under.

Not a target bow but my W/W Black Wolf riser with Uukha limbs weighs about 2-1/2 lbs.

The old target bows were pretty ample in the weight category, and then we added stabilizers to them. The proof is in the shooting and when you're young, it doesn't seem so bad. My wife is not a big lady but she shot a 30" stailizer and a Hoyt V-Bar with two extended weights toward the archer..that was on a Jennings Arrowstar that was already plump in the weight category. That bow didn't move on the shot and that showed up in her scores.

Try a CD WF25 setup if you want to feel a heavy ILF rig. That riser is over 4 pounds. They have come out with a WF29 which I believe is over 5 pounds. And then add the weight of the limbs.

That info most of the time I add it when I am doing a review for a rig. For Whit Feather Lark riser : entire bow (riser, limbs and string) weights 1260g / 2.78 lbs and the riser itself 845g / 1.86 lbs.

My Black Bear warf and long limbs it's a 5lbs rig.

"The added weight is supposed to help stabilize, but I don't care for it a bit, especially after lugging it around a 60 target 3d. Might as well be carrying a wheel bow. I much prefer a bow 2 pounds or under."

I know what you mean.

Funny thing is that when I used to hunt grouse in the rough country in northern Ontario, I thought a 6 1/5 pound 20g was just fine to carry, all day.

However, the heavier physical weight bows that aren't even half that weight can seem heavy to some of us; can't explain it.

My reason for posting this is that I am always looking at different bows and have handled ILF's but never owned one.

My needs/activities differ from some of the others on the forum;

- I shoot recreationaly; non-competitive range shooting, 3D and walking the club trails shooting the bags that are placed in the 3D shooting lanes (we don't leave the 3D targets out). I just like shooting barebow/instinctive/trad, call it whatever you like.

- I am not using hunting draw weight bows

- I am not into serious competition (I got that out of my system with 45 years of competition trapshooting)

- While technically, 3D's here follow WA rules, the reality is that at the various club 3D fun shoots I attend, you will see anything from wood self longbows to ILJ bare bow rigs. The only things they don't go for are sights and stabilizers. The usually divide things up by recurve or longbow and by age.

- At 67, I have various aches and pains from arthritis and old injuries, which I don't expect will improve with time.

I like carrying my 62", 20 oz., recurve on the trails at 3D shoots and at the club. I like the "feel" of this one piece bow.

Would I shoot a bit better with a 68" or 70" recurve? Absolutely; that vintage 68" Yamaha is a great shooter, currently, I can't use it well due to a shoulder injury, draw weight is just a bit too much right now.

Although I do fine with my 62" with a rug rest and strike plate at the 20 to 30 yard distances I shoot at.

A 25" ILF mid price target riser would offer me the ability to change limbs to change draw weight, if I wanted or needed to.

What I am pondering are things such as, will I be bothered by the physical weight, how will the metal riser be in the cold since I shoot all winter, and there the various metal fasteners and more complex rest which I need to decide if I would be happy with.

I went to ILF for a bow to age with, I'm 64 now. I like the idea of top performance target limbs in lighter weights and the interchangeability. There are carbon risers that are much lighter and not cold to the touch in Winter, I love mine. And most ILF bows could be set up shoot off the shelf.

Other than that I would just as soon shoot a one peice recurve.

I just weighed my 25" Hoyt Matrix riser with long Uukha Ex1 Evo2 limbs setup to shoot IBO Traditional--3.55 pounds.

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You do know that most manufacturers and distributors (ir Lancaster) list the weights if ILF risers on their websites, right? For arguments sake add 1# for limbs, string, rest, plunger etc.

Viper out.

I was at a big shoot in southern IL. Wish I could remember the name of it. IT was the largest open (compound and bows) shoot I'd ever been at.

I was walking around and saw a BB shooter with a riser that I was interested in. I asked if I could draw his bow. He gave it to me and I commented about how heavy it was and he told me it was 7.5 pounds!!!

Bowmania

"You do know that most manufacturers and distributors (ir Lancaster) list the weights if ILF risers on their websites, right?"

Yes, I do.

I should have asked; does anyone have typical weight figures for medium or long limbs? Those don't seem to get published.

It looks like I could expect that a WNS 25" Motive riser weighs 1,120 grams, or 2.47 pounds + 1 pound for the rest = 3.5 pounds, to round it off.

A bit heavier than the old 68" Yamaha YG68, by approx. 1/2 pound.

I think that tells me what I need to know.

Bowmania, that's a lot of weight, I know why they are doing it, to get every advantage to try to win a tournament with a large, competitive field.

That's fine if that's what they want to do, I get it (like most dedicated trap shotguns weigh 8.5 to 10 pounds) but for what I am doing, there's no way I'd carry a bow that weighs more than my upland game shotguns ;)

Just recently started shooting a lightweight ilf rig to get thru shoulder and string finger problems. I got a used black wolf 17" riser that weighs 1#10.9oz. That includes the grip, no other hardware but for the leather on the shelf and a flat top hex bolt for strike plate. Also just bought a set of ex1evo2 lightweight that weigh 5.8 oz each. total bow weight without the string is 2#11.5oz. A set of lightweight DAS bamboo glass longbow limbs that I have as well weigh 8.5oz each. Also been experimenting shooting left handed in case these issues don't go away... I bought a Galaxy Crescent LH 25" riser that only cost $80 new, weighs 2#, and shoots great (as far as I can tell shooting lefty!) It is definitely a big difference from shooting my Toelkes that weigh just a hair over one pound but it's still fun.

If weight is important shoot a one piece recurve. I have 2 that weigh 19 ounces.

"If weight is important shoot a one piece recurve. I have 2 that weigh 19 ounces."

I may well do that.

My current favorite recurve and longbow both weigh 22 oz, they are nice to carry all day.

Sorry...typo in my post... total weight of the black wolf with uukhas is 2#6.5oz...

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