Traditional Archery Discussions on the Leatherwall


Who uses trail cameras and cell phones?

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babysaph 13-Aug-19
Woods Walker 13-Aug-19
SeminoleBob 13-Aug-19
David McLendon 13-Aug-19
4nolz@work 13-Aug-19
Suedog 13-Aug-19
Babysaph 13-Aug-19
GF 13-Aug-19
4nolz@work 13-Aug-19
Woods Walker 13-Aug-19
Babysaph 13-Aug-19
2 bears 13-Aug-19
grizz 13-Aug-19
Babysaph 13-Aug-19
Longcruise 14-Aug-19
ground hunter 14-Aug-19
Mingo 14-Aug-19
Longcruise 14-Aug-19
Mingo 14-Aug-19
r.grider 14-Aug-19
Buglmin 14-Aug-19
dean 14-Aug-19
DanaC 14-Aug-19
Shawn 14-Aug-19
crookedstix 14-Aug-19
Woods Walker 14-Aug-19
Shawn 14-Aug-19
TGbow 14-Aug-19
Ranman 14-Aug-19
GUTPILE PA 14-Aug-19
Tom McCool 14-Aug-19
George D. Stout 14-Aug-19
Hedge 14-Aug-19
BigJim 14-Aug-19
PEARL DRUMS 14-Aug-19
George D. Stout 14-Aug-19
DanaC 14-Aug-19
PEARL DRUMS 14-Aug-19
eddie c 14-Aug-19
George D. Stout 14-Aug-19
monkeyball 14-Aug-19
JusPassin 14-Aug-19
DanaC 14-Aug-19
Woods Walker 14-Aug-19
duvall 14-Aug-19
monkeyball 14-Aug-19
Babysaph 14-Aug-19
JusPassin 14-Aug-19
Babysaph 14-Aug-19
George Tsoukalas 14-Aug-19
Hedge 14-Aug-19
Missouribreaks 14-Aug-19
Krag 14-Aug-19
Justin 14-Aug-19
Tine Tickler 14-Aug-19
BuzAL 14-Aug-19
BuzAL 14-Aug-19
zonic 14-Aug-19
RonL 14-Aug-19
SeminoleBob 14-Aug-19
DanaC 14-Aug-19
gradymaci 14-Aug-19
grizz 14-Aug-19
Woods Walker 14-Aug-19
rraming 14-Aug-19
RymanCat 15-Aug-19
shade mt 15-Aug-19
swampwalker 15-Aug-19
swampwalker 15-Aug-19
Joey Ward 15-Aug-19
Smokedinpa 15-Aug-19
timex 15-Aug-19
grizz 15-Aug-19
crookedstix 15-Aug-19
Frisky 15-Aug-19
grizz 15-Aug-19
Phil Magistro 15-Aug-19
Babysaph 15-Aug-19
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Brad Lehmann 16-Aug-19
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From: babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 13-Aug-19




How many of you guys use the new fancy trail camera's that text you while you are having dinner with your wife and let you know you have a big buck under your stand?

From: Woods Walker
Date: 13-Aug-19




A cell phone is basically an electronic leash. That's why I leave mine in my truck when I'm working or hunting. In the old days if I was hunting and someone wanted to get a hold of me they'd leave a message on my answering machine that was attached to a wall phone. My flip phone is no different, only it's in my truck and not on the wall. It IS a lot better to have it on the truck in case you break down.

Trail cams? Nope. I prefer to actually hunt.

From: SeminoleBob
Date: 13-Aug-19




Don't think that the deer text their location!

From: David McLendon
Date: 13-Aug-19




I've never owned a trail camera. It's looking more and more like I'll make it on out of here without one.

From: 4nolz@work
Date: 13-Aug-19




Yes I have the cuddeback cuddelink system its fun as heck kinda like a trapline

From: Suedog
Date: 13-Aug-19




Killed a 135" then a 145" in two short sits five years ago on a new piece of unhunted property. I've put bait and cameras out there for the past four years and haven't had a chance at a mature Buck since.

I'm not gonna step back out there this year except to hunt. Can't do worse.

From: Babysaph
Date: 13-Aug-19




Actually the deer do text their location.

From: GF
Date: 13-Aug-19




Not for me, thanks.

I do carry my phone with me in the field, simply because I would feel mighty stupid laying there dying from whatever cause when a simple phone call could save my bacon! But I have absolutely zero interest in having a machine tell me where, when, or how I should be hunting. JMO, the entire point of Hunting is to figure it out for yourself.

A deer has a brain the size of my fist. How much help should I need to outsmart one???

Besides… An “average” doe is probably older and smarter than a typical 3.5 YO “trophy” buck. Antlers are just nature’s way of hanging a “Kick Me!” sign on the dumb ones!

From: 4nolz@work
Date: 13-Aug-19

4nolz@work's embedded Photo



;) just got this text a few minutes ago from a Spypoint

From: Woods Walker
Date: 13-Aug-19




"Antlers are just nature’s way of hanging a “Kick Me!” sign on the dumb ones!"

LOL! You should copyright that phrase!

From: Babysaph
Date: 13-Aug-19




GF sounds good but they outsmart us every year. And yea the does are smarter but let's face it. They don't count. You and I can kill our does but the big boys is what counts

From: 2 bears
Date: 13-Aug-19




I don't have a phone. Refuse to be tethered. >>>>-----> Ken

From: grizz
Date: 13-Aug-19




I didn't carry a phone either. Until I had that heart attack and open heart surgery. That has a way of changing your thought pattern.

But I don't want my camera calling me either. And besides, I know how to turn my phone off.

From: Babysaph
Date: 13-Aug-19




Its easy to say what we used to do. But what if your wife tries to call you with a family emergency and you didn't have your phone? You left it in the truck. Years ago it was not possible . Now it is.,think about it.

From: Longcruise
Date: 14-Aug-19




I can see that using a cam could be very entertaining. Would be fun to have in the backyard. My hunt areas are far enough away that they are not practical and mostly there is no Cell service to boot.

From: ground hunter
Date: 14-Aug-19




I told Barry Wenzel once, who is a very nice guy that all trail cameras are not fair chase, and one day, you will not even have to be in the woods,, to know what is out there.....

I also told him,, once you start naming deer etc, you enter the Disney world......

I have no care of what he thought, but deer hunting has become a joke for so many.....

My wife has to call me about an emergency,,,,, give me a break,,,, you might as well stay home,,,,,

From: Mingo
Date: 14-Aug-19




Tired of cell phones, email and technology in general - not for me. Let’s get back knowing the grounds you’re hunting and putting in the work needed to be successful without cameras, texts or emails.

From: Longcruise
Date: 14-Aug-19




I worry more about me being the emergency! 8^)

Am I sceered? Heck no, but my wife is. And she should be. I hunt alone in places where the body probably wouldn't be found for a couple years. 8^)

I don't want to cause my wife, kids or grandkids unnecessary anguish.

From: Mingo
Date: 14-Aug-19




Like Ground Hunter said

From: r.grider
Date: 14-Aug-19




I think it would be fun. But im too much of a tightwad. I do keep a phone with me for safety reasons while hunting. Also pics, and entertainment when it gets boring. With a smart phone i can put 5 hour sits in a tree, never could before, at least not awake .

From: Buglmin
Date: 14-Aug-19




I use trail cameras, have eight out right now on ponds. I like to know what bear there is and how often they drink and swim. I like to see the elk swimming, like seeing the kind of mule deer I have at the ponds. I carry my cell phone, turned on, onx maps on, cause I like to see how far I walk, or that I'm able to mark a way point. Guys talk of walking eight miles, when in reality they only walked three... And I name the bear I think we should target to kill, name the bucks that I'm interested in. When I talk of a certain bear by name, guys know who I'm referring to.

Oh, and I just got 35 acres of land to hunt on the famed Forbe's ranch in southern Colorado. You can bet I'll have at least five trail cameras out by Friday on it so I can see the quality of bucks, bulls and bears on it.

From: dean
Date: 14-Aug-19




Certain people in the Iowa DNR, consider trail cams that can be connected to cell phones as an electronic communication device, much the same as hunters using radios to communicate while they are hunting. One day they may be illegal during deer season.

From: DanaC
Date: 14-Aug-19




I love trail cams but half the fun is sticking the chip in the computer and seeing what's been by.

I hate cell phones and only have a 'stupid' one that I buy minutes for every few months. Carry for emergencies when hunting - or to call for young draggers in case lady luck smiles on me ;-)

From: Shawn
Date: 14-Aug-19




I don't use them only when I hunt out of state. It is nice to get a quick inventory of what's on a property to see if its hunting there. As far as having a cellphone on you when you hunt, I am sorry you are stupid in today's world if you don't. They can save your life or someone else's. I understand you don't always have service but you can still be tracked and found as long as the phone is on. Shawn

From: crookedstix
Date: 14-Aug-19




Not for me--I grudgingly carry a cell phone, for other people's sake, but I would never use a trail cam...and I would NEVER EVER hook it up so I got text alerts about a deer. Might as well just shoot a tracking chip into a deer in June, and then just follow the beacon when you decide to kill him.

From: Woods Walker
Date: 14-Aug-19




"Its easy to say what we used to do. But what if your wife tries to call you with a family emergency and you didn't have your phone? You left it in the truck. Years ago it was not possible . Now it is.,think about it."

Then why go at all? I mean, if it's so important that you can be reached every second of every day, then stay the hell home. Then they don't have to be without your presence even for the time it would take you to drive home.

Like I said, they're an electronic leash, and this is a prime example of it. If like being tied to a phone, then have at it. Not me.

From: Shawn
Date: 14-Aug-19




Woodswalker again read your last post. Sorry you are wrong, if you fall or have a heart attack or anything life threatening a cell phone can save your life. I am sure your wife wants you to come home after hunting every time. I myself have used one to get medical help for someone who I found unresponsive on a hiking trail. Why do you think guys who go way back use Sat phones and transponders, so they can be found in case of emergencies. It is selfish not to keep one and use it if needed. It is not about someone needing to get a hold of you it is about you needing it when you are hurt or in trouble. Sorry but a NO BRAINER!! Shawn

From: TGbow
Date: 14-Aug-19




People use to have to ride a horse or wagon to get to where they wanted to go, but I drive a motorized vehicle myself. I use cameras and cell phones.

From: Ranman
Date: 14-Aug-19




Use regular trail cameras. The cell service is sporadic on our property, so no cellular cameras. I would use them if I had better service. This is the time of technology, embrace it, but with caution.

From: GUTPILE PA
Date: 14-Aug-19




Phone yes trail camera no I prefer to hunt my game

From: Tom McCool
Date: 14-Aug-19




I don’t do the trail cam and cell phone thing. But it sure seems fun and I can see the attraction. Maybe some day I might give it a work.

I do bring my cell phone for fun. I may take a picture and send it to my wife or just save to look at later. After 39 years of marriage I enjoy sending or getting that smootchy kissy emoji.

Of coarse if there is a real emergency like hanging upside down in my safety harness or we have to talk “R-cat”off the ledge after a fake news rant before blood pressures gets him a cell phone is invaluable.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 14-Aug-19




I have a flip phone that is just a phone. I carry it for emergency only and really that's all you can do with it...it's a phone. Just because you have a phone doesn't mean you need to be on it constantly like you see folks doing everyday; sending texts to your buddies from your tree stand, or whatever you do with so-called smart phones. What you choose for a toy is your choice, but if you're playing with it constantly, you don't just have it for emergency...you have it for a toy to play with, and probably when you should be paying attention to other things.

Everything in moderation has always been the key to enjoying a full and healthy life. Enjoy your gadgets. Mine cost me $19.96 every three months and it works just fine to call my wife in case of an emergency, or for her to call me. Anything more is not necessity, it's just an addicton that distracts you from everyday life.

From: Hedge
Date: 14-Aug-19




Don't make primitive bows and arrows to hunt with wifi and satellites.

Hedge

From: BigJim Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 14-Aug-19
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Nothing like reading replies from a bunch of old crumdugins. There is no wonder why other hunters think we think we are elite.

First off, trail cameras don't set themselves. They also don't attract game. But if you don't like to use them, so be it... but then it is the traditional way to belittle anyone who chooses to do so.

I've not had a lot of success with one lasting through the season, but I do like them. I mostly just set them up on feeders to see what time the pigs are coming in.

I am certanly tethered to my cell phone. Might as well get an enjoyable text from time to time.

I suppose it is possible to get a text about an animal... get up the gear and haul tail to the camera and the critter still be there doing a photo shoot... but I doubt it.

BIgJim

From: PEARL DRUMS
Date: 14-Aug-19




Not me! Im not into all that fancy pants compound crap. All I need is my 2019 Ram, 3 pc Toxocraft recurve bow, aluminum wrapped carbon arrows, 1 piece machined steel broad head and of course my rechargeable multi-color head lamp. I gave up on candles a few years back after a nasty forest fire.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 14-Aug-19




You can stay in touch without being in over your head too. All the things Pearl mentioned don't really give you any distinct advantage nor do they distract your from the hunt...or life in general. If you apply the same thing to smart phones, then you can hunt without being distracted. It's simply a choice. I just choose not to be bothered by extraneous crap when I'm in the woods. Das all.

From: DanaC
Date: 14-Aug-19

DanaC's embedded Photo



I like trail cams 'cause every once in a while they show me something like this. (This guys was shot in early December, still dressed out about 180.) Got me out of bed extra early a few days ;-)

From: PEARL DRUMS
Date: 14-Aug-19




Ooops, forgot about my Thermacell and GPS. Silly guy :)

From: eddie c
Date: 14-Aug-19




Each to his own. I have an elderly parent I'm responsible for. I have a wife that I love that has had 2 heart attacks. I'm carrying my cell phone. I'm not going to let someone else's opinion about cell phones, carbon arrows, bumper pull campers, generators and how I shoot my selfbow, with carbon arrows btw, interfere with how I spend my time outdoors. As far as trail cams that text pictures, I'm too much of a tight was to pay for the extra cell number to use one but don't hold it against anyone that does.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 14-Aug-19




Trail cameras probably save more deer than hurt them.

From: monkeyball
Date: 14-Aug-19




I don't own a trail camera. I had one and played with it a bit. I got it out of my system and when it went I never replaced it.

I do believe I may have been "on" one of those cameras wired to the cell. I took a hike/hunt last year in late bow season. Covered many miles and was in some " uncharted waters " from time to time.

Found some really nice sign and saw a pile of deer that day.

So as I am walking back home on the black top and about 3 miles out, I had this Jeep pull up to an intersection and the guy was really giving me the once-over. I did not think to much about it until he went up the road 200 yards turned around and came down past me again .......real slow. Got me to thinking about trail cams and cell phone/computer hookups.

Each to there own I guess, but not for me. Good Shooting->->->->Craig

From: JusPassin
Date: 14-Aug-19




I don't even use a cell phone.

From: DanaC
Date: 14-Aug-19




" I'm not going to let someone else's opinion about cell phones... interfere with how I spend my time outdoors. "

Spot on. It's 'recreation' and I'm re-creating *my* self, not yours.

From: Woods Walker
Date: 14-Aug-19




"It's simply a choice. I just choose not to be bothered by extraneous crap when I'm in the woods. Das all."

X2!

From: duvall Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 14-Aug-19




To all of you "bragging" about how much you are still in the "dark ages" by your refusal to use modern technology...how are you posting on this site and why do you even want to go online? Oh and for the record if my dad goes anywhere without his phone or even has it turned off he hears about it when he gets home. Had a guy tell me himself that it took him and his brothers 2 days to find their dad who had died while he was in the woods.he didn't come home one day.

From: monkeyball
Date: 14-Aug-19




No bragging Tim, just a choice. I let my wife know where I am hunting and which direction I am heading along with a bit of a map. She is usually at work when I leave. She knows who to call if I am not home by a certain time. I do carry a phone with me.

As always, this thread is getting taken in a different direction than intended.

Read the original post, it is about trail cameras wired into cell phones.

Good Shooting->->->->Craig

From: Babysaph
Date: 14-Aug-19




Some of you guys are so tough and macho. I carry my cell phone. I would like to think it may save my life in an emergency. In fact I like technology. I like phones. Tv's, computers etc. I even like that my new truck tells me how many mpg I get. I also like playing with the trail camera's. Having said that I like the challenge of killing game with my recurve. Btw it has a clicker on it. Lol

From: JusPassin
Date: 14-Aug-19




Funny how many of us on here were bowhunting for 20 years when the only "electronics" available to us was our flashlight, and we still killed deer and made it home.

From: Babysaph
Date: 14-Aug-19




Oh I can still kill the deer with the cell phone in my pocket and I can make it home without it. I can also walk to my hunting camp. I just choose not to. I even have direct tv at my camp

From: George Tsoukalas
Date: 14-Aug-19




I take a cell phone for emergencies. Jawge

From: Hedge
Date: 14-Aug-19




Never walk in woods with a light! What for?

Been to every continent cept Antartica and never could use a light at night. Why start now.

These old MoFo’s here are whise buying yer Bows Jim or so i’m thinking.

Nothing wrong with going hunting with gadgets and high tech.

I hunted Booger Eaters for 10yrs with 100lbs of the most high speed low drag whizz bang gear the world has ever seen.

Now I dont.

Hedge

From: Missouribreaks
Date: 14-Aug-19




I place them on roads and likely property access points to catch trespassers, best tool ever. Drones are good too.

From: Krag
Date: 14-Aug-19




I have a flip phone in the car but don't carry it or use it regularly and don't take it into the woods. Where I mostly hunt reception is iffy anyway - don't get it at the cabin. Never used to call the wife when alone up at the cabin but as we're getting older she appreciates it although not much she can do from 4 hrs away anyhow. I have to go 3/4 mile down the road on a clear day and a mile closer to the interstate on a bad day to make the call. If I have an emergency in the woods guess I'm up a creek........

From: Justin
Date: 14-Aug-19




I just started. It changed everything for me!

From: Tine Tickler
Date: 14-Aug-19




What a bunch of hypocrites, bashing this and that as they type away on their computers> pathetic!!

From: BuzAL
Date: 14-Aug-19




Gov officials make me carry a cell where I like to hunt.

Other gov officials make me buy various types of firearms.

From: BuzAL
Date: 14-Aug-19




^^ The first group of em wont let me use a trail cam.

From: zonic
Date: 14-Aug-19




I'm with Jawge. But no to trail cams.

From: RonL
Date: 14-Aug-19




For those that want nothing to do with a cellphone. They come in kind of handy when your body decides to have a heart attack. That’s from personal experience.

RonL

From: SeminoleBob
Date: 14-Aug-19




Have you ever noticed that most trailcamera photos of deer are at night?

From: DanaC
Date: 14-Aug-19




"Have you ever noticed that most trail camera photos of deer are at night? "

If you're in open feeding areas, yes. If you're in thick cover it's not the same.

From: gradymaci Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 14-Aug-19




Give me a 10 yard shot over a pile of corn with my spycam sending pictures of my other stands, all while reading about traditional archers that hate technology..As they type on there iPad in there Studebaker, with No power windows.. Only in the great USofA. God Bless..

From: grizz
Date: 14-Aug-19




Read a story of David Petersons once, most know he ain't much on technology. Said he always left his cell phone in the truck and wouldn't take it hunting. After falling from a tree and being severely injured, he said I wish I had that phone.

Just sayin!

From: Woods Walker
Date: 14-Aug-19




"Some of you guys are so tough and macho. I carry my cell phone. I would like to think it may save my life in an emergency. In fact I like technology."

Tough and macho? No....we just don't like having a leash on us. You do, GREAT! Maybe one day you'll have enough electronic gizmos that you won't have to go in the woods at all! Then you'll really be safe and sound!

Carrying a cell phone in the woods ruins the experience for me. But that's me. The time I get to spend in the woods is very precious to me, and anything that sours it is NOT welcome.

From: rraming Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 14-Aug-19




Would if I had my own land. All for technology, have smartphone and use it all the time. Not the 90's!

From: RymanCat
Date: 15-Aug-19




Be careful if you disclose this on this site you wont get a regular sheet or a bunk bed if the time comes.

You might have to face the firing squad. LOL

From: shade mt
Date: 15-Aug-19




Never had a trail cam until my daughter bought me one for Christmas, found out they can add to the enjoyment of hunting. I love looking at the pics.

Certainly hasn't changed my success..lol...that's silly I've been filling my tags long before they even existed. I respect those that don't use them, only ask the same in return. If not?...lol.. then grab a good pair of hiking boots and come along be interesting to see if you still think the same.

As far as cell phones? we'd all be a little better off if we'd get our noses out of the things and go spend some time in the woods.

I use trail cams but I still don't have internet on my phone, nor want it.

From: swampwalker
Date: 15-Aug-19




Thx Big Jim. At least we know who the elist are. You know, the ones driving their buggies and washing their undies in a barrel. Oh boy. What hypocrisy.

From: swampwalker
Date: 15-Aug-19




The elitist. Sorry about that!

From: Joey Ward
Date: 15-Aug-19

Joey Ward's embedded Photo



It’s pretty cool technology. I’m still playing around with mine. How to position, distance, etc.... but it’s neat seeing what’s out there at different times and places on your property and not have to go to the camera. Set it up and check battery status and photos from your smart phone.

This doe came through early this morning.

My son has the app on his phone and he can check it from college. That’s cool.

We like it. It wasn’t very expensive. Easy to set up. This one doesn’t take the best pictures I’ve seen but for our use, it seems to work just fine. I’m sure we’ll be moving it around during the season so we can see different spots and what’s hanging around and traveling through our property.

All in all, pretty neat.

From: Smokedinpa
Date: 15-Aug-19




Cell cams are entertaining but it’s pretty rare that a mature deer is gonna be that consistent in showing up in front a camera. We had one last year that was but that’s not the norm. I personally don’t have cell cameras but some of the guys I hunt with do. The real advantage I can see is knowing when rut activity starts. I actually take my cameras out by the start of archery season most years. Deer are smarter than we give them credit for being. Most of the time they know they are there. Hiding them up higher in a tree helps. How many times do you see animals look right at them. Last year I had the older deer stop walking in front of a camera and walked behind it. We had a guy on our lease put out something like 8 cell cameras every time a big buck started showing up on a camera he went there. Then the deer disappeared. 3 different times. You still have to play the wind, stay as scent free as possible and get in position undetected. It’s cool to see what’s in the area but there as many disadvantages as advantages as far as I’m concerned.

From: timex
Date: 15-Aug-19




have nothing against trail cams just don't have time for them. & my smart phone is also my computer & means of online communication & yes the majority of my hunting is solo & I to have a bum heart so my phone is my way of getting help if I should have a problem. it humors me the folks that some how some way believe useing modern comunication devices demeans there manhood & even funnier they use a computer to say so

From: grizz
Date: 15-Aug-19




Timex, ;-)

From: crookedstix
Date: 15-Aug-19




These tech threads are pretty funny. The pattern is becoming very familiar: if you simply respond by saying that such-and-such technology is not for me, and give your reasons why...you can pretty much count on the tech-lovers taking offense at it and calling you elitist, or a curmudgeon, and being a hypocrite for using a computer or driving a car.

I personally think that we each just gravitate towards the amount of tech help we need to think we have a good chance at getting the game we're after. Naturally, skilled hunters like Frisky or myself need very little help in this regard; whereas others probably want/need all the game cams and text messages and bait piles they can get their hands on. To each his own; that's my motto!

From: Frisky
Date: 15-Aug-19




I'm with you on this one Crookedstix. Not one of these tech lovers is a hunter. They're all phonies. They have to use every available technology to get a deer, as they don't know how to hunt. This season, I might video record one of my hunts so these charlatans can see how it's done.

Joe

From: grizz
Date: 15-Aug-19




Video a hunt? Gettin kinda techy there aren't you Joe.

From: Phil Magistro
Date: 15-Aug-19




I didn’t bother to read all these posts because the pattern was obvious. If’s entertaining to me that so many of you think that game cameras mean you don’t have to still hunt and you’ll automatically kill a big buck. I have a friend that is an excellent hunter. A couple of years ago he bought some game cameras and was rewarded with photos of the bucks in the areas he hunts. He even named some of them based on the antlers they carried. He never did get a shot at any of the nice bucks. He saw some in the season but not close enough for a shot.

Using game cameras doesn’t mean you don’t hunt. It’s not cheating and it darned sure doesn’t mean that the bucks you got on film in August will be walking the same trail in November.

From: Babysaph
Date: 15-Aug-19




Agreed Phil.

From: bluesman
Date: 16-Aug-19




i never used a trail camera for deer or any ungulates till I moved to where I have to drive for an for an hour to hunt . Where I used to live I could get there in 25 minutes and i was there alot putting in plnty of walking and scouting weekly.now i live in a mountain area where access is tougher ..so I use a trail camera//I think everyone has different reasons for using them...and we judge each other too much. Although I have to admit the once that update you as it happens are not my cup of tea.

From: Longbow58
Date: 16-Aug-19




To some of the real hunters I guess you have to walk 2 miles to be a woodsman or hunter and drag you deer until your tongue is hanging out...so be it, to each his own. I own several cams and a cell phone and enjoy them both. and it is a map, a compass and an emergency contact.( I also carry a real compass if needed) Like some other hunters I enjoy getting the occasional text. I sometimes hunt 100 yards off the road, but that's what I choose to do. That's why we live free here in the good old USA. Thank you veterans. These posts usually turn into a crap show like this. With this said I still put boots on the ground and always enjoy ANY wildlife sightings on my cameras. Good luck this season!

From: FireChief Jeff
Date: 16-Aug-19




I bought an inexpensive trail cam solely to find out what critters had taken up residence under my shed. No intention of ever taking it to the woods. In fact, it's been in my sock drawer, minus batteries, for three years now. Cell phone? Can be a lifesaver. And it takes some pretty nice photos of my time afield.

From: gradymaci Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 16-Aug-19




Please post the Naturally Skilled Hunter Certificate so it can be validated by a Third Party..

From: yaderehey
Date: 16-Aug-19




Well, since somebody mentioned drones... That's my fear. That people will begin using a drone to find, track movement and set up an ambush to kill a game animal. All done live, real time with the use of a drone camera. I feel we're not that far from it. Maybe it's already been done... Does anyone here feel that is hunting? Sometimes you do have to draw a line.

From: gradymaci Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 16-Aug-19




My drone is now up to pulling 45#, I sent in for a power regulator to get it up to 60#'s for elk season..wish me luck..

From: 4nolz@work
Date: 16-Aug-19




I want an armed drone

From: Brad Lehmann
Date: 16-Aug-19




I have a couple of cameras set up. Some of my best wildlife pictures come from them. I even use them to monitor what is going on around the house. It is rather eye opening to see what comes around here at night. I carry a flip phone in my shirt pocket and a pistol in my pocket. When I am in new country, I carry a compass and a GPS. It is a sign of the times. They are all tools that I prefer to keep with me. None of the above really has anything to do with hunting or my style of hunting. I don't know why some people are so adverse to embracing technology. Or I should say some technology. After all, we are conversing using the internet, which is pretty amazing stuff.

From: Brad Lehmann
Date: 16-Aug-19




Just a thought. I'll have to check it out. Perhaps the guys that don't like cell phones and game cameras are the same guys that can't figure out how to post a picture on here.

From: Yooper-traveler
Date: 16-Aug-19




"My drone is now up to pulling 45#, I sent in for a power regulator to get it up to 60#'s for elk season..wish me luck.."

Yes but is your drone using an ILF rig or an all wood bow? A real woodsman only uses drones equipped with a longbow....

(and wood arrows)

From: 01ARCHER86
Date: 16-Aug-19




My father raised me how to REALLY HUNT. Preseason scouting expeditions looking for sign, finding and following trails, learning the land and staying out of bedding areas. Finding water and food sources. Thinking like a deer and being quiet. Leaving the land as unscathed as possible because we’re in the deers house now. If someone mounted a picture on your wall of your house without you knowing, would you not notice the second you walked in and freak out? A little change can be a good thing if paths get congested, but the scent we leave behind everywhere is the worst. I LOVE hunting the hard way. Completely disconnected from the rest of the world and focused on one thing. Being a good hunter. All that said - NO CAMERAS. I do carry my phone in a pocket I can reach with my safety harness on in case I fall it could save my life.

From: gradymaci Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 16-Aug-19




Yooper-Traveler..Only Wood bows with Cedars ( tappered and compressed of coarse) Fletched with a turkey I killed with my bare hands..

From: Babysaph
Date: 16-Aug-19




I'm like you longblw 58. I used to do all that crazy walking and hiking. All I did was jump deer and educate them. Then when I killed one I had to pack it out. I found hunting closer and smarter resulted in more easier kills and here is the kicker., the deer were bigger. I've used satellite phones all over the world to check on my family while I am gone. Simply because I can. I use my cell phone and a gps. I carry a compass but rarely use it. I kill my deer and drag them out with a 4 wheeler or Rokon.,I usuall kill 10 deer per year and I have learned to work smart.

From: 4nolz@work
Date: 16-Aug-19




turn in your Trad Card Babysaph you are obviously a slob :) :) :)

From: DanaC
Date: 16-Aug-19




" Yes but is your drone using an ILF rig or an all wood bow? A real woodsman only uses drones equipped with a longbow.... (and wood arrows) "

You forgot to add that the Traditional Drone has hand-carved propellers, preferably made of osage, although hickory is acceptable. ;-)

From: grizz
Date: 16-Aug-19




Hey nolz, who do I turn mine in to? Never wanted it anyway.

From: swampwalker
Date: 16-Aug-19




Great post Phil. Glad to see some common sense. And yader, you can't pattern deer with a drone. Come on guys. We're all adults here. Most.

From: 89redtruck
Date: 16-Aug-19




If you don't want a phone or camera - don't take one, nobody cares! If you want a camera or phone take them, nobody cares! If someone doesn't like you taking a phone or camera, nobody cares about that either!

From: PEARL DRUMS
Date: 16-Aug-19




My favorite part about game cams is the fact my wheelie hunting sons are excited about bow hunting all year and are always shooting, rather than knocking the dust off their bows 5 days before season opens. I'd call that getting young folks involved and a big win. And, the fact neither have ever shot a deer they have pics of, it REALLY drives them to hunt smarter and harder because they know the possibilities are real and not just something they hope exists. Do I mess with cams? Hell no.

From: PEARL DRUMS
Date: 16-Aug-19




As far as cell phones? I wont allow either of them to hunt without one. They have to tell when they are up and buckled in and when they have their feet back on the ground, every single hunt without excuse.

From: DanaC
Date: 16-Aug-19




Sensible approach, PD.

From: swampwalker
Date: 16-Aug-19




Yep.

From: PEARL DRUMS
Date: 16-Aug-19




We cant expect our younger technological generation to hunt like all of us old fuds do. Maybe someday they will take that same step most of us did. But if they don't? I'm okay with it as long as they keep buying tags and hunting enthusiastically and within the laws. I'm a super stickler for game laws and they both know not to cross that line.....ever.

From: Yooper-traveler
Date: 16-Aug-19




“Yooper-Traveler..Only Wood bows with Cedars ( tappered and compressed of coarse) Fletched with a turkey I killed with my bare hands..“

I got my first drone turkey kill last year. I’m using his feathers....

DanaC- I agree. Carbon fiber drone have no soul.

From: Red Beastmaster
Date: 17-Aug-19




The cheap flip phone is in the car unless I'm in a tree. ALWAYS turned off. Don't even think of calling, texting, or trying to reach me. I don't want to be bothered. If there's some problem at home I'll find out about it when I get there, nothing I can do until then anyway.

No trail cameras. I know deer are making the trails and sign. I don't need a picture to prove it.

From: charley
Date: 17-Aug-19




I don't use them. My son tried to show me how, but I got distracted and never learned how. I like boots on the ground. I do like smart phones because they make nice pictures.

From: Nrthernrebel05
Date: 17-Aug-19




I enjoy the trail cams. I have gotten some very unusual photos. Have one of a hawk trying to catch a rabbit on the edge of the range of the cam. I have seen funny shots of squirrels and turkeys. I have to check them manually. I put them up near my stands in August and check them when I hunt that stand in October. As for the cell phone I finally got a “smart” phone in February when my flip phone fell out of my shirt pocket into the toilet. It is good to make sure everyone makes it out in the evenings. If you don’t like them don’t use them. According to some of the old guys like Glen St. Charles, you aren’t even hunting unless you are slipping through the forest. No blinds or tree stand. I just can’t understand why people have to be so critical of what others do legally.

From: Joey Ward
Date: 17-Aug-19

Joey Ward's embedded Photo



How about this one for unusual? Guess I should’ve washed my hands in some Scent Away before I turned it on. Ate a PB&J samich. :-)

From: DanaC
Date: 18-Aug-19

DanaC's embedded Photo



Yeah, some of them get nervous about cameras and some are just curious (and I have video of one bear chewing the camera off a tree!)

From: Longbow58
Date: 18-Aug-19




I really think we are all on the same page for one thing or another but one fact for sure we all enjoy doing what we do! Right?

From: DanaC
Date: 18-Aug-19




Can't wait for Christmas morning, or seeing what's on the cameras. (I put one out *yesterday* and have to restrain myself today.)

That said, I only use the 'video' setting on my cams now, and can't imagine the cost of having *those* sent to a phone! Low-resolution pictures are one thing but some of these videos go 60 megabytes + of data.

If you have a Facebook account you can see some of my vids here -

https://www.facebook.com/pg/SwiftRiverSportsmansClub/videos/?ref=page_internal

From: Babbling Bob Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 18-Aug-19




Always enjoyed the photos from folks I used to work with which were posted on the bullitin board at the agriculture research station of the deer and animals they shot with their trail camera on private properties. Don't think I will spend my money on one as it would be way down the list when updating my hunting/camping gear.

Don't use my cell phone (never for the GPS) except to call someone and rarely text. Do like it's flashlight. Seems like many of the folks I still work with as a retired consultant for 37 years will first call then send an email or short three to four word text asking me to call. Overseas clients send emails and only text when I'm in their country. Do like the weather apps too, but they don't always work in the iron mineral based and granite hills and small mountains of NY, VT, or NH where I spend a lot of my time.Don't work too when going down hills ib some of those areas either, so wouldn't want to depend on a cell phone for information.

From: Red Beastmaster
Date: 18-Aug-19




I had a friend who kept a basket by the door during family gatherings. All phones and devices went in the basket when you entered. Good idea.

That's how I feel when I enter the woods. I want to take it all in. The sights, sounds, and smells of the wild cannot be experienced while staring at a screen.

From: smokey
Date: 18-Aug-19

smokey's embedded Photo



This is my first year with my Spartan. A friend has one and included me as one of his recipients to recieve photos as he gets them. During the summer I used it to watch the house, security. Just put it in the woods the other day. That same day I got this photo and some others right to my phone and computer, also sent to a couple of buddies. Pretty cool. I didn't need to walk to the wood to check the camera. I have it secured in a metal box about ten feet in a tree, pad locked.





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