leister - I will be online videos. The production capability will be amazing - six cameras from all angles. We'll cover the shot process, but our range of topics will be very broad. We'll talk shooting from a tree stand, side slopes, arrows, and many many more topics. You'll get the initial push of videos that can be watched on your laptop or your phone. The idea is that you could go to the range and work on a certain aspect of the shot and have a 10 min. video of that aspect of the shot right there on your phone to reference.
We'll also spend time on bad habits and why some things are not such a good idea. I hope you enjoy it.
Love the videos, and they will serve a great purpose if folks will just view them. Agree on the music as well, unless it's some nice, soft and mellow in the background type. Loud music can ruin an otherwise great viewing.
A lot of money to made, even on youtube these days. The Push is already on youtube. The premise is true, people would rather subscribe as a patron than travel. Excellent financial move.Shalom
There is nothing new under the sun. That being said; what's the point of any archery forum or video for that matter? Maybe, just maybe, it's to expand and build the "Archery Community " beyond us old farts (yes, including me).
Do you think you are so knowledgeable that you cannot learn anything. If so,I truly feel sorry for you. I was a long time tradesman and buisness owner and I continually learned from young men of less than half of my experience and knowledge.
Lord help if I should become a close minded curmudgeon.
i know for sure thatJenkins knows the archery shot, he learned a lot from Len Cardenele and won IBO.
Blackmon went to Rods classes so his foundation is solid.
Plaguerizing is what we all do, handed down from the old Masters to the new generations.
To the extent that content is protected by publication or plaguerizing is a hard thing to protect without Copy rights.
Patreon has a good system and has taken a lot from the Google owned youtube that has definitely not been friendly to the 1st amendment towards firearms and taking animals on hunting videos.
Youtube paysdecent on monetizing if you have at least 1000 subscribers.
Patreon is a good platform because to subscribe to certain content, you pay on a tier system monthly.
What most do is load a video on youtube and then make the content private and then download that video to Patreon to make money by monthly subscriptions. Shalom
I forgot to add, quality content certainly should be paid for and you can guarantee you will!
Professional content should be paid for and the model is that of Patreon for knowing who and from what URL the subscriber is from.
Knowing the URL and the subscriber gives former SF and GB or Delta guys a knowledge of who at least from the origin of the subscriber but not limited exactly to who it is but for the purpose of vetting who they are teaching?
In conversations with former Police and SF guys, they do not like premium content on how to's without knowing whether or not they are teaching the enemy how to do things.
Authenticityshould be vetted along with paying for quality content and this is just a few reasons why the venue and the subscriber should be known. Shalom
"There is nothing new under the sun." That's just not true; you don't shock an Olympic coach easily. But yes, it is uncommon esp. in this old endeavor,
Anyway, I think it's a great idea for Jimmy and Rod to put their expertise together in a course and I'll be one of the first to buy it, I've often recommended Push and their courses.
Like any so-called knowledge, it's only as good as it is presented and you do have to either read, or watch to know what it is and where it came from. It's not instinctive...pardon the pun. As they used to say, there's a different person looking in everyday and if you just go by the representation here on this forum, there is plenty to learn that is either not known, or has been forgotten. Even for some of those who think they know it all, or it has all been said before, there may be a speck or two of useful information. How many folks actually know of our history and its volumous content? Answer: Not very many.
I think the PUSH is pretty cool concept in that it does one thing, it is promoting the resurgeance of Trad archery and I like that in any format. Shalom
I agree, some of the recent courses have helped re-energize trad. archery. I'm probably not the only one who thinks too much reliance on instinctive shooting hurt trad. archery.
Being able to teach is a completely different skill set than being able to do what is being taught. Some of the best performers are not the best teachers, and some of the best teachers are not the best performers. We're very lucky to have people good at both who are willing to help others excel.
I, for one, am looking forward to this!! How much information has been lost over the years because we didn't have the digital technology available today?? The Thompson Brothers, Roger Hoogerhide (sp), Howard Hill, Fred Bear, MANY others!!! How great would it be to have instructional videos from those folks and folks of their vintage? "Same old stuff??" Maybe But I don't think you can present the "same old stuff" too many different ways for it to have application to the most folks.
Tom Clum Is doing a great job with his videos and I'm sure Rod and Jimmy will also present GREAT information for those willing to look at it.
They have my UNRESERVED support and recommendation, sight unseen!!!!
Man, a few years ago I watched the push video on YouTube. It was great. I had no idea how fast it would grow. Good for them, there hard work is paying off for them and all of us. Good work boys.
I definitely plan to buy this. #1 because of my experience with the Tom Clum Solid Archery Mechanics content. #2 Because of my belief in the philosophies of Jenkins and Blackmon (not to mention their results).
I started shooting a recurve in 1975. I moved to a compound in the 1990's and back to traditional (longbow mostly in 2011). My schedule keeps me from getting all of the practice I would like, and I have little time to compete but I can get the knowledge. I can then take that knowledge, integrate it and see performance improvements. I have experience with just this sort of thing in Rifle and Pistol competition.
My release is currently subconscious at the end of expansion, to me it is like the trigger on a target rifle or pistol. I don't decide when to make the gun go off that causes issues including anticipation. But I do decide when I begin the process of operating the trigger (or expanding). The ignition or release is not the result of a conscious decision to make something happen but a conscious decision to start my final process as I keep my sight or tip on target. When I do it this way, follow through just happens. I can't stop my hand from moving backward.
1. I don't see it costing $240. I am logged into my account and it is not $240. 2. What is a good price for quality and updating instruction? 3. While many people have coached me for free, I have also paid for coaching and clinics. 4. I am able to afford this and I will buy it.
The problem with the clinic is when it's over what you are left with are your notes and maybe an audio recording. Don't get me wrong, an in person clinic is the best way to go, but to be honest. My goal would really be a clinic and something like this which I could refer to over time.
I have subscribed to the Solid Archery Mechanics course. And it is a real help to me. It has helped me to see what was right and wrong in the way that I do things. I grew up with push-pull and a dead release. With back tension (which helps stability) you have to work hard to not have a dynamic release. A lightweight bow and the course has really helped me overcome issues that have existed for decades.
This is $200 and you get to watch it over and over and we keep adding content as we go. The course lives and grows and you can watch it on your phone while on the range working on one aspect of your shot.
Also, much much more content than just shooting form.
How do you define value? Frankly, I feel like this is the blue light special at K-Mart.
What is it you want from coaching? That should be asked before you spend any money at all. If you're not going to follow the protocol to get better then it will likely be a waste of your money. It's all about choices and whether or not it's worth the price to you...no one else.
All that said, this isn't rocket science we are doing, and I'm not sure why some just aren't getting it more easily. Maybe folks think too much. The basic tenets of archery from don't change, but it seems it is more like a rubiks cube than a simple sport anymore.
What I know is the difference between success and failure is often very small. IMO, one should never undervalue knowledge, at least if you are serious about success (however you may define it).
Equally important is keeping an open mind...if you are not receptive to knowledge you are limiting yourself. Sure, a lot of stuff is wasted money, but it just takes one new idea, concept, or technique to have a tremendous impact on your success.
Geez. That music reminds me of CCR and that's my sweet spot. You guys complain about music more than anyone I've ever seen. It' not Marylin Manson for crying out loud, but it's also not those skinny jean wearing bro country dudes either.
Oh Bill, you silly man. You already paid $350 for Rod's clinic in Florida. Don't you remember? I would never expect you to pay to get better. You're scared of all that contortion stuff you mention above, which vexes me by the way. Now, to go playing the victim.
I'm curious how much you think it costs to have a crew of seven fly to Georgia and spend five days filming a production quality video and then editing for three months?
Your simple math is just that - simple.
I thought I'd share a fun promo video with what - at one time - was a like minded group fo archers. Don't play your passive aggressive routine with me, dude. I may have been born at night, but it was not last night.
There are people in this world whose sole goal seems to be to interrupt the efforts of others to learn or improve. I've never been able to figure out what they gain from this, but they do it none the less.
I have learned more from the minutes of Rod Jenkins in "Masters of the Barebow" than I have from many different books and articles over 44 years. I have also learned things that I would not have been exposed to from Blackmon's videos.
One thing that I haven't noticed in those media or in my limited correspondence with them is a desire to talk down other people. I'm pretty sure that's how they were raised and though I fail at it sometimes, it's how I was raised too. It's too bad More people weren't.
Good stuff guys! Well worth the price of admission. Thank you for putting this together. Clearly everyone can take things away from this...over and over again.
Some have said something like "what is the big deal about archery". At one time the key text had three different methods all of which were instinctive. Let's call that left brain. Now it is going heavily into a sight based system and light bows. Call it right brain. Good shooting requires a coherent approach.
Then you have top archers at major televised events, and major tournaments, who still can't hit the broad side of a barn. Now in the case of the pros, they hit tacks, but occasionally missed the barn.
And we have had a process of star making going on for a while, for a long time the major stars were all dead.
So pulling it together. If you want coherent goal oriented information where all the moving parts are aligned and consistent with each other; if you want to improve your shooting, and few people should be saying "no" to that; And if you want trusted human brand names; You probably are in the market for something like this.
Me, 200 is out of my league at this point in my career, though I have paid multiples more for the PSE Shooting School; Robin Hood and other videos; Hundreds of books; and my internet connection. So I think the value is likely there, but I am tapped out for this cause. But there are tons of people who have just picked up the challenge... Maybe if I can sell that HH bow...
I don't want to gripe, but I am half way through Jimmy's book, and so far it is thin on archery advice... :)
