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Single bevel cutthroat or grizzly

Messages posted to thread:
Gator1 08-Aug-19
Biathlonman 08-Aug-19
George D. Stout 08-Aug-19
Knuckleball 08-Aug-19
Dry Bones 08-Aug-19
David McLendon 08-Aug-19
Maximum Max 08-Aug-19
dean 08-Aug-19
justinammons 08-Aug-19
papajud 08-Aug-19
Tracker0721 08-Aug-19
Tree 09-Aug-19
DT1963 09-Aug-19
Therifleman 09-Aug-19
George D. Stout 09-Aug-19
SuperK 09-Aug-19
trad_bowhunter1965 09-Aug-19
Birdy 09-Aug-19
nineworlds9 09-Aug-19
fdp 09-Aug-19
Jwilliam 10-Aug-19
Babysaph 10-Aug-19
From: Gator1
Date: 08-Aug-19




Looking for feedback on Cut throat vs Grizzly single bevels. Looking for a single bevel for My daughters set up.

She’s shooting 38-40 lbs at her draw length. Thinking single bevel may be better than double bevel ACE

Any thoughts?

From: Biathlonman
Date: 08-Aug-19




All will work well...pick your poison.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 08-Aug-19




Double bevels have killed all kinds of game for thousands of years. Single bevels are also good so it's just a choice. Frankly I would go with a really sharp Ace Standard, unless you are really good at sharpening single bevels. I'm not that good.

From: Knuckleball
Date: 08-Aug-19




I'm going to use Cutthroats this year for the first time out of my 43lb longbow. They came wicked sharp and the one I use for practice flies exactly with my field points. It is a very well built broadhead. I haven't tried sharpening them myself yet. The man at RMS suggested a KME sharpener for best results. I haven't used Grizzly or Ace but have friends that swear by them. The Ace are much cheaper to buy.

From: Dry Bones
Date: 08-Aug-19




Agree with knuckleball, the Ace are cheaper, but I hut with a man who also swears by the Grizzly. He shot a Sitka last year right through the middle of the shoulder and did not have to look far for his deer. They are REALLY sharp from the package, but no notion as to how hard they are to keep that way.

-Bones

From: David McLendon
Date: 08-Aug-19




I have recently aquired some 160gr glue on Cutthroats and have been shooting them all with my field points. They are mounted on 75gr inserts for 235gr total weight. They came really sharp and are still quite sharp after shooting into compressed bales. They'll be resharpened on the KME knife sharpening rig and will be razor sharp when the time comes.

From: Maximum Max
Date: 08-Aug-19




I can tell you that Grizzlies are not at all tough to sharpen or keep sharp. A file gets mine hair popping sharp in short order. My wife, shooting Grizzlies, has had zero issues with her #35 recurve, at her short draw, getting two holes in deer. I have 7 big game so far taken with the same 145 Grizzly and it has only needed a touch up between assignments. I have been very impressed with the blood trails of the single bevel but haven't needed a blood trail to recover the last several deer I've shot with Grizzlies as they have gone down within sight. Still, trails were profuse. I doubt there would be any difference in penetration or any other performance with deer size game between the two. I would look at price......

From: dean
Date: 08-Aug-19




My wife, with a Red Wing Hunter 40@28, her draw about 26.5", had a nice fat doe jump the string when it was walking away, after it passed about 8 feet behind her while she was sitting on a blow down catching her breath. She shot at about 18 yards, the doe was in the process of turning away. The arrow hit the rear right, skidded off of the hip bone and lodged into the front left shoulder bone tight, with the entire arrow inside of the body. It was a 25 year old cedar with an original right wing Grizzly on a 40 pound spine cedar with left wing fletching. The deer went down in about 90 yards with a steady blood trail out of the single hole.

From: justinammons Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 08-Aug-19




Cutthroats are solid gold

From: papajud
Date: 08-Aug-19




Ditto for the Cutthroat...

From: Tracker0721
Date: 08-Aug-19




I’ve broke 3 grizzlies including one that broke on a hog shoulder. Cutthroats are still going strong! Hit a rock with one and it just took hitting it with the worksharp to sharpen it back up. I did all of mine with the work sharp on the bevel until the highest grit and then stropped it with jewelers rouge like a double bevel. Better shave than my straight razor!

From: Tree
Date: 09-Aug-19




cutthroats

From: DT1963
Date: 09-Aug-19




I use Simmons sharks, double bevel. I tried the single bevel and just did not see any difference and like George said I find them to be trickier to get as sharp. I have not had any problem blowing through deer, elk and bear with double bevel broadheads.

From: Therifleman
Date: 09-Aug-19




If you're hunting whitetail, I can tell you that you won't be disappointed in the grizzly. No trick to sharpening single bevel broadheads and with the reduced angle (25 vs 50) you can get them scalpel sharp with just a bit of time and the correct technique. I use a KME broadhead sharpener and have to be careful and not go overboard shaving my arms and legs (don't want to raise questions lol).

I have taken plenty of game with the grizzlies and have done the same with double bevels---whatever you can get the sharpest should work. The cut throats are sure built well, but I will stick with the grizzlies for cost and performance in the whitetail woods.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 09-Aug-19




The only single bevels I tried were the original Grizzly head back in the early 90's. They were all right bevel. Just never got use to, or maybe just didn't put enough effort into learning how to hone them sharp enough to suit me. Never needed anything but a standard head anyway...quick kills.

If those heads make you take shots you normally wouldn't with a standard head, maybe you should rethink your shots on game. I've never hit a shoulder socket/bone unless it was the off side after penetration, and I have not plans to take anything but broadside shots, or very fine angle quartering away.

From: SuperK
Date: 09-Aug-19




I have never used a Cutthroat but I have used Grizzlys a few times. I shoot bows from 40-45 lbs. and arrows around 500 grains for hunting Whitetail deer. I have had the edge to roll on most Grizzly kills. Never had that happen on a double bevel Zwickey. I used a file on the Grizzlys just like I do an Eskimo. Don't know if that had anything to do with it. I got rid of the single bevels. Zwickey Eskimos are, in my opion; tougher, stronger, eaiser to sharpen, retains its edge better, easier to mount straight and cost less.

From: trad_bowhunter1965 Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 09-Aug-19




I switch from the Zwickey delta to the Grizzly 160gr I don't think you could go wrong with either one the reason I went to the Grizzly is the been around for a long time and proven and the cost.

From: Birdy
Date: 09-Aug-19




No doubt cuthroats are a tougher head but also around 17 bucks a pop or so. That being said grizzlys are pretty darn tough too

The biggest difference aside from one head being carved out of a single chunck of steel is the design.

The Grizzly has a better ratio but the cut throat will start getting that rotation sooner upon impact.

From: nineworlds9
Date: 09-Aug-19




Either will do it. Pick what fits your budget and tickles your fancy. I own and use both. The Cutthroats are hard to beat.

From: fdp
Date: 09-Aug-19




Well....Ed AShby killed huge numbers of BIG game animals in various parts of the world with a Grizzly. Can't imagine it would perform any worse for you.

From: Jwilliam Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 10-Aug-19




Haven’t used the cutthroats, but you know I’m a big fan of my grizzly broadheads.

From: Babysaph
Date: 10-Aug-19




I would go with a Pucketts Bloodtrailer.





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