Traditional Archery Discussions on the Leatherwall


Benefits of picking a spot

Messages posted to thread:
Sarge 30-Jul-19
Sarge 30-Jul-19
dean 31-Jul-19
Sarge 31-Jul-19
DanaC 31-Jul-19
Draven 31-Jul-19
George D. Stout 31-Jul-19
Sarge 31-Jul-19
Draven 31-Jul-19
George D. Stout 31-Jul-19
NY Yankee 31-Jul-19
Draven 31-Jul-19
Sarge 31-Jul-19
RymanCat 31-Jul-19
Draven 31-Jul-19
Ghostman 31-Jul-19
reddogge 31-Jul-19
shade mt 01-Aug-19
longbowguy 01-Aug-19
Jimmy Blackmon 01-Aug-19
shade mt 02-Aug-19
DanaC 02-Aug-19
From: Sarge
Date: 30-Jul-19




No matter how or when you aim, what are the benefits of picking a spot on an Animal or target?

For me, it becomes my focus with a Barebow shooting style. Shalom

From: Sarge
Date: 30-Jul-19




The reason I bring it up is because no matter how you aim it has to have a focal point, that point ike you mentioned Hedge, the area of the kill zone and the center of that.

So if a person is aiming at the spot specifically, it helps to use the eye/hand thing to direct the arrow.

I guess if someone were using pick a point and not actually aiming at the spot thatit would become less important? I would not know but it seems that way. Shalom

From: dean
Date: 31-Jul-19




If I don't bore a hole, my focus never settles down. That gives the brain mixed signals, the sight picture will not inform the brain properly if the eyes are not steady.

From: Sarge
Date: 31-Jul-19




Gets your mind of the Bucks rack too. A spot takes away the chance of just shooting at the whole animal. Shalom

From: DanaC
Date: 31-Jul-19




Your eye can only focus at one distance. You can either focus on the spot OR the tip of your arrow, not both. Somethings gotta give.

'Instinctive' is the opposite of any technique that uses the arrow tip as a sight. (Or for that matter, using sight pins.)

Just like shooting a rifle or pistol with open sights - you focus on the front sight and let the target go blurry.

Scopes are popular because they put both the sight (reticle) and the target in the same focal plane. No blurring!

From: Draven
Date: 31-Jul-19




There are some recent medical studies that explain a lot of things and the researchers believe the eyes mirror the changes going on in the brain. This explains a lot of things, even the old "bore a hole" now has a scientific back-up. Focusing on a small detail stops your mind to wander.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 31-Jul-19




Even the smartest scientists know little about how the brain functions, and admittedly think we only use less than ten percent. The brain is an amazing thing and will work with conscious or unconscious processes that occur while we do things like archery, wing shooting, etc., etc. Because we don't fully, or even partially understand how it works in us, we use terms like instinctive, or intuitive, do describe what we do, but the brain is in charge.

My own unscientific experience come from knowing that if I practice my archery in many ways, the brain and body will work together when I'm not considering things like distance, or depth, or periphery...or even target movement. It just works because we've done it before and the brain remembers how to react along with the body....thereby allowing us to hit those flying pheasants, or running rabbits now and again. It's not perfect of course, since we don't hit every time.

From: Sarge
Date: 31-Jul-19




Guys, I really should get laser surgery on my eyes, if I could afford it I would but at the least wear my corrective lense. You know it could be said that your ability to see, directly correlates to the amount of accuracy you are really capable of. May be that many of us old farts should get our eyes checked and actually wear our glasses. lol

From: Draven
Date: 31-Jul-19




"Even the smartest scientists know little about how the brain functions, and admittedly think we only use less than ten percent."

Huh? That's home-grown pseudo-scientist.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 31-Jul-19




Yes, Draven, it is not reality as it applies to how the brain functions, but more to not utilizing the potential. We still know dang little about how it works with the body when we are not left-braining it.

From: NY Yankee
Date: 31-Jul-19




Same as a rifle. Aim small, miss small. If you aren't focusing on a small spot, how can you expect the arrow to hit there. Like trying to hit an aspirin in the air when you are just looking at the sky.

From: Draven
Date: 31-Jul-19




George you said "admittedly think we use less than 10%". No, they don't think this, it is an urban legend - created by Albert Einstein if I am remembering right. We use the brain 100%, what we know about how it works is another matter. But we are off the subject now.

From: Sarge
Date: 31-Jul-19




From: RymanCat
Date: 31-Jul-19




When some of us get older we have issues seeing like we did when we were young so then we learn how to line things up on the things we are shooting at .

Don't matter what it is learn to line it up and you will be surprised especially taking game. Use the animals legs or chest.

The lazier burned holes of the yute are gone. Come down on the middle of the back and look over a few inchs and you will have where you want to hit.

Guys try to hold on and look at a spot they get a little wobbly I think.

From: Draven
Date: 31-Jul-19




I thought that was the reserved space for clone's counting Hedge.

From: Ghostman
Date: 31-Jul-19




Aim small, miss small

From: reddogge
Date: 31-Jul-19




Contrary to a post above it is quite possible to pick out a small tuft of hair on deer, focus on it while keeping the end of the arrow shaft in your periphery. This is how most gap shooters shoot. They don't stare down the point or at least I don't.

From: shade mt
Date: 01-Aug-19




I got to wonder if we use 100% of our brain then why all the problems or weird stuff destroying society and family? oh wait I think I've confused knowledge and "wisdom"...Often said, how can anyone be so smart....And yet be so incredibly dumb.

Now back to picking a spot, I focus on the spot I want to hit the minute my brain tells me I'm shooting if given the chance. Even pics and videos I automatically find that spot. Works for me.

From: longbowguy
Date: 01-Aug-19




If you don't know where you want to go, you probably will not get there.,

But once you have decided, and set that as your goal, you can redirect your mind to the process for getting there. - lbg

From: Jimmy Blackmon
Date: 01-Aug-19




The "spot" is the size of a basketball. Come on. Killing a deer is easier than hitting an 11 in and IBO shoot.Geez. Heart, lungs, liver, dead deer.

From: shade mt
Date: 02-Aug-19




Might not be quite the size of a basketball, but I agree when it comes to hunting with a stickbow, you do not need to shoot tight little 1" or 2" groups....you just need to put an arrow in the heart or lungs.

I think its a bit of a stumbling block to a lot of bowhunters trying to switch from compounds back to a regular bow. They can't regularly get those tight groups like they did with a compound, and when opening morning rolls around, they lack the confidence to leave the compound at home.

In reality, its pretty darn easy with practice to get good enough to stick an arrow through heart and lungs at normal ranges less than 25 yds. Most times its nerves or lack of patience that screw up the shot, not ability.

lol..but I STILL! pick a spot...Why not?

From: DanaC
Date: 02-Aug-19




Jimmy, some of us are still struggling to keep 'em all in the 8 ring ;-)

Yeah, you can fatally hit a deer *at some distance* without being a top gun shooter, BUT for me the goal is to extend that distance. Deer around here just don't often let you get 'close enough'. They're harassed by coyotes and go nocturnal just for kicks. Your only shot opportunity for a season might well be at 28 yards. Not many 'traditional' shooters are ready to make that shot. (I ain't there yet!)

I know really good shots who still switch back to wheels for hunting. Can't say I blame them.





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