Last week I received a new DAS Tribute ILF riser. I put my Morrison Max 5 limbs on the riser and later went to remove them. No way. I've been trying for two days to get them off to no avail. I have three ILF risers and other limbs and have had no problems inter- changing them which is one of the main reasons for ILF. I talked to one of the experts at Three Rivers and he had no answer so I am stuck. Has anyone else had this problem and what did you do short of taking the riser apart. Appreciate any and all help. Joel

I had a limb stuck in a Gillo riser so tight it needed two of us to pull the limb out. I had to relieve the dovetail fitting with a small file to get it to work.

Kevin, I've tried to take out that screw and it does turn but never seems to loosen. Thats the only thing I see that would allow me to disconnect the limbs and riser, other than the rail on the riser which may be able to be taken off. A manual comes with the riser which they failed to include so I had to call them and it now in the mail, altho I doubt the manual would be much help with this issue. Thanks for the suggestion. Joel

https://www.3riversarchery.com/pdf/DAS-Tribute-Manual.pdf

Here is a link to the on-line manual for DAS risers. It might be of assistance. This is likely what they are sending you in the smail mail.

Doug

Is there access to GENTLY push a tapped/padded screwdriver in between the limb and the riser? Push the end of the screwdriver against the button portion of the ILF fitting on the riser when you turn the screw from the topside. Adjusting the limb bolt may give you more access to that fitting.

I have seen flanges that are too big for the pocket. A few turns in the electric drill under a file can easily fix that. Of course you have to get the limbs off first.

Kevin that is the screw I was referring to, and I am sure the entire dovetail is spinning and that's why it is not becoming loose. Not an easy fix.

Kevin I didn't see your second post. I did take the nut off from the limb bolt and tapped it with a rubber mallet but didn't budge. Don't want to damage it and may be something that Three Rivers will have to tackle. Thanks for the suggestion.

badger -

A lot of the DAS bows came with limb bolts that were slightly over-sized. That makes a tight fit in the limb "U" groove.

Step one: You have to remove the limb, and it just may take fiddling. Turn the limb bolt full in and full out. That alone may give you enough wiggle room to pull the limb out. OR, you have have to find a sweet spot between full in and full out, both in height and rotation. If that doesn't work, you can try an ice pack of the bolt and hope it shrinks enough you let you giggle it free. A little WD-40 might not hurt either.

I don't think you'll be able to fully remove the bolt, but I'm not up on all the DASs.

You will get it out, but you'll have to work at it.

Next you have to make sure it doesn't happen again. Measure the bolt diameter and the "U" groove with a dial caliper. If the numbers are very close, a coating of wax in the "U" groove may be all you need. If the difference is more than that, then you can have a machinist turn down the bolts a few thousands of an inch or find a pair of limbs with looser "U" grooves, that's what I did.

Viper out.

Lefty,I read the copy of the manual you sent and no help there, as I suspected. There is no room between the limb and riser so wouldn't be room to do as you suggested, altho a very good idea. I got a hunch that DAS has their connection perfected altho the ILF connection still needs some work.

Is this a DAS problem or the problem of another product?

The slot on the end of one set of limbs I own is cut to minimum dimension or maybe a bit tighter. This may make for better alignment but I had to carefully (a little at a time) widen the slot with a fine file until I had a good slip fit.

Wow ILF ?

Just unscew the limb bolts.

The Leatherwall is without compare,as we've mentioned many times. I took all your suggestions and with a lot of elbow grease and Silicone, and also screwed the bolts in and out as Viper suggested I finally got the limbs off. Hedge the limbs also went in with much effort which concerned me.

It's quite apparent that the limbs bolts don't screw out and being a new riser I didn't want to "wreck it". I now have to decide whether I want to keep it as neither my Morrison or Dryad risers are this tight. I may try as suggested to wax the groove on the riser and do some light filing.

Thanks again guys, you saved the day. I am not a huge fan of the ILF system altho being 84 y.o. and a bad rotator cuff I need all the adjustment I can get to stay in the game. Joel

Joel -

The wax trick worked on almost every "tight" ILF I've encountered. The DAS bolts I have are over sized, and DAS originally suggested sanding down the limb "U" grooves to fit. Not about to do that.

Try the wax and see how much force is required to seat the limbs. If you feel too much resistance, it ain't gonna work for you.

The other suggestions I made are all you have left.

One other thing. If you never plan on using the limb bolts for weight or tiller adjustments, you can take a strip of emory cloth and shoe-shine the bolts to size. Not something I would do.

Viper out.

I agree with ya. I am in the ILF game so I could keep shooting as well. Not as good as a good old takedown system but I can shoot different limbs easier.

Kevin, the silencing pads look fine. I appreciate all your help and interest in being of assistance. The Leatherwall was far more helpful than the "experts" at Three Rivers, and I still havn't received my Manual. I plan on putting the limbs on again today,but with a lot of wax. I think the Tribute is a good riser and understand that ILF is not a perfect system with inherent problems. Thanks again. Joel

Sounds like the problem began with detritis (!) from silencing pads.

My only ILF (Samick limbs) has no silencing pads and is silent anyway.

Are some limbs built/set-up so sloppily that pads are necessary?

Guess what? I got my Manuel today from 3 Rivers, and lo and behold it's the wrong one. It is the one for DX5 and Dalaa. If not for Lefty4 I wouldn't have known that the tribute has their own Manuel as they are quite different from the Dalaa. The consultants are called Experts---I wonder in which field. Wonders will never cease. Joel

Sorry to hear your troubles badgerman, hope you get it straightened out. Another reason I prefer the DAS connection over the dovetail.

Badgerman - go to Tradtalk.com if you want any information about DAS bows or any other ILF bow.

Easy fix. Remove one of the ILF fittings from one of your limbs. See if it slides in and out of the Riser hard or easy?

With the fitting out of the limb, check the limb fork on the Limb bolt, see if it slides on the bolt hard or easy? Shalom

K-cummings, has it right.I have 3 fittings in front of me and the sizeing on all is different in length, diameter from each other.The only constant is dovetail diameter and its footing thickness everything else changes.2x are german manufac and the other is a cartel from korea i think.I know it caused me problems when one came loose and i lost the indent pin and spring.

I had the same problem with Morrison limbs on my Tribute. The problem is the detent button is a very tight fit in the riser fitting. I got mine out by rocking the limb back and forth while applying pressure outward on the limb. Once I got them out, I filed a small radius on the side of the riser detent towards the side the limb slide in. No problems since. The button drops down into the detent and fits so tight that it doesn't want to move up and allow the limb to slide out. It's an easy fix once you get the limb out. Max limbs on the Tribute riser make a sweet rig.

So ILf really isn't international fitting. If all components are the same throughout they would have to fit.

I would expect Koreans to define measurement standards because of their vastly higher (eventual) sales and, like Hoyt, international prominence due to Olympics.

Minor bowyers wouldn't set standards even if they were pioneers.

An update on the limb situation. I put the limbs back on the Tribute riser after applying some wax, as was suggested. I just unstrung the bow and with very minimal pressure the limbs came off with no problem Thanks again. Joel

Well how do the Olympians get their bow limbs off when they get stuck like the original poster.

BS -

They usually don't have to worry about it.

It's pretty rare with production bows (which Olympic bows are), and as I stated above, a little tightness is usually fixed with wax.

Viper out.

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