My point on is 30 yds. I shoot instinctive on anything 20 yds. or less and then put the point of the arrow on targets at 30 yds. or just low at 25 and high at 35. This works out pretty good for me but I thought that I would try to set up a crawl for 20 yds. With my finger against the bottom of the arrow, shooting three under, everything feels natural. When I crawl down the string a half of an inch it feels awkward when I draw. I even keep pulling the arrow off of the shelf which never happens normally. I'd like to give a crawl a chance but right now it just seems to mess me up too much. I was thinking about putting something on the string down a half an inch so that my finger would be up against something. Does anyone else find this to be awkward? Any advice?

I've been using a 20 yard crawl on my hunting bow for several years now--deadly poison.

You seem to have the perfect situation with the 30 yard point-on. You could easily use two crawls in hunting situations. You could crawl for short shots and then your usual point-on for longer shots.

As for feeling awkward, it may just take a little time. I really can't see how it should "feel" differently.

I use a serving for my 20 yard crawl. I just slip my tab up the string until it hits to serving.

I use a lightly served nock also. Smaller than my string nocks. It doesn't feel awkward at all. I don't recall it taking any time to get use to. >>>>-----> Ken

It just takes getting used to. However that said, if you only have a 30 yard point on with your regular grasp it should be very simple to establish the 20 yard gap.

That said, if you want to use point on, and the crawl seems foreign, just move you finger up your face. Ypu may also find that if you currently anchor with your index finger at the cornde of your mouth, anchoring with your middle finger may do the trick. It's called face walking, and has been around every bit as long as fixed crawl and string walking. It's just not trendy at this time.

Don't forsake the basics just because your fingers are a bit lower on the string. You still need a solid anchor and back tension--- be sure to take a deep hook-- this may solve your arrow coming off the shelf. I used a crawl for some time and shot deer and other game using it. It can be a great confidence booster. I tried a higher anchor to lower my point on, but found i just couldn't get into my back properly. I now gap at the riser and it is working very well for our 3d shoots.

Good luck.

What Therifleman said. If your arrow is coming off the rest, you need to work on your form, particularly string hold to start with.

You could add a bow sight.

Why would he add a bow site? He's already got one--it's the arrow. Come to think of it, everyone has the same sight.

For hunting or casual shooting, the marks on the string will work fine. For competition the will put you in an aided or freestyle class. Too much to remember for me so I stay with one hold one anchor. The quest if for accuracy though, so you do what you need to do for that. A sight isn't a bad idea either.

A double nocking point where you nock the arrow between them is essential to string walking.

I'm of the opinion it is essential (at least very beneficial) to all styles of shooting, but that's just me.

Rick

When you hook the string, cock you wrist to the left if your RH. It will straighten out as you draw and twist the string and arrow into the window.

Bowmania

Thanks for all the comments. I have never had a problem with the arrow coming off of the rest before so I think that it is probably a matter of just getting used to something new to me. I have been using a mark on the tab to gauge about 1/2" and then moving the tab down to that mark. I think that if I actually clamp on another nock point it will help. Also, thanks Rick for the pic. I never even thought of using any other parts of the nock as a reference. I am going to go clamp one on and see what happens. Again thanks to all.

Update. I clamped on a nock and it made a big difference. I must have been doing something with my fingers while trying to keep the tab at the right spot. That part is good now. The next thing is that I found out that I am not point on at 30 yds. After I set a crawl that was close at 20 yds. I found that if I actually held the tip of the arrow on the spot with no crawl it went a lot higher. I think that I was just holding the arrow below the spot at 30 yds. I found that my brain does not want to let me hold the tip right on the spot. Also when I do cover the spot that I am aiming at my left to right is not as good. While I was trying to get used to using the tip of the arrow I was shooting at 15 yds. and holding a few inches below the spot. I was very consistent that way. Where do you guys hold the tip of the arrow? Covering the spot or lolypoping it?

It depends on the arrow shaft size for me. With "normal" shafts I lolypop the spot, with VAPs I cover it and see through.

Never trust your brain.

Candyman. be advised *and I know that some folks hate to hear this) but being too intent on keeping the arrow point ON the spot, can lead to.....Target Panic. Let the arrow point float. Keep your main vision on the spot, and let the arrow point drift to it. It will. Don't concentrate on the arrow point, and try to force it to the spot. It makes little difference whether you continue to lollipo the spot, or place the point on it, as long as you do it the same way every time. Find what works best for you. If your left righ isn't good when you put the point ON the spot, then you may be creating an alignmnet, or inconsistent draw length situatiom. It could also be caused by "peeking" as you release.

Thanks again for the responses. fdp Thanks for the input. Covering the spot with the tip does mess me up. I tried it at very close range in my basement tonight and I found that once I cover the spot that I am looking at with the arrow tip I get kind of lost. For example, if I am aiming at a small hole in the target, once I cover that hole with the tip I no longer have something to aim at. Maybe I am just used to seeing the arrow below what I am aiming at. As I stated in one post above, when I was shooting at 15 yds. I knew that I would need to hold the point just under the spot and I shot really good that way. It is a work in progress but I think that once I get used to it that it will be a real improvement. All of the responses have been very helpful. Any other thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated.

I have seen a couple of guys that had serious second guessing issues with elevation. The DAS peep sight really helped them. Looking through the aperture sights they still keep their eye on the mark and adjust elevation by going to the next smaller sight or putting the target higher in the sight they are looking through. I know that there is no category for them in 3d shooting, but not everyone dreams of winning trophies, just becoming good shots is a good goal. Many of the shooters that i knew back in the 60s were better at the longer targets than many are shooting today. I was a devoted sight shooter myself back in the day. It is more fun to hit what you are shooting at than struggling to pull it off. Shooting with a sight also is beneficial for developing form control if you trust the sight.

So having my arrow between two metal knock poinysnwill help me?

Seeing is believing. Two nocks for from now on

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