My uncle wants to get in to Trad. What about the Galaxy ember? He draws 29.5 with wheels. Where is the best place to buy. I’m thinking Twig Archery for him.

Amazon all they are is a renamed black hunter you can get one for around $120 bucks maybe cheaper . Great bows for the money

seen them as low as 98 bucks hear some come in weighing differntly from ebay and Amazon

heard great bow

Twig weighs theirs and set them up for a little more

Twig Archery, Lancaster Archery, and Online any of them. I will tell you, who ever you buy from have them check the ACTUAL draw weight compared to the draw weight written on the limbs. My buddy bought an Ember from Lancaster last year marked 55@28", it is pulling 58-59"@28". I just bought a Black Hunter off of EBay limbs are marked 50#@28", they are really pulling about 43#@28". Which is fine with me, because I was going to get 45# limbs anyway. I have 4 other bows pulling 50#@28" already. The bow was so inexpensive I had to buy it, and I wanted a Black Hunter anyway because of the reputation. I pull 30", the bow is very smooth, and is as light weight as a longbow. I really like my Samick Journey for a inexpensive bow, now this one better (I also have customs). I got this for much less than the Journey, it is "one" of the best inexpensive or expensive bows I have shot, with "one" of the best grips I have put my hand into. DANNY

Oh yeah forgot to mention, I put a new Dynaflight 97 Flemish Twist string on it also. DANNY

No wonder I read on another site that bow sales were down among bowyers. That is cheap

I have this bow with both limbs, longbow and recurve(55#s)! I have a monkey draw as they tell me(29 1/2") and no pich! For the $200 I've spent was well worth it! Its one of those deals that comes along and if you take advantage of it, your ahead! I have 3 Blacktails that now sit! Not that I won't shoot then again, I am now enjoys a New toy! This bow is a GREAT DEAL for the money and would an EXCELLENT started bow! Have FUN and Enjoy!

JR, stop with the BS. Most bowyers have waiting lists, some up to two years. And there isn't a US bowyer around that can keep up with entry level bows in quantity or price, nor will the even make them. Most people who aren't lawyers, doctors or dentists can't afford thousand dollar bows for their kids, or to just get into archery. Add to that, these imported bows are getting archery to the masses and those masses will likely be the ones who buy those customs that take over a year to get.

Nobody has said anything about length and weight. With a draw over 29 I'd suggest a 64 inch bow. And for learning I'd suggest 30-35 pounds AND A COACH.

Releasing with the fingers is a whole new game compared to a compound, I don't care how long you've been shooting one. You'd have a wide varity to choose from in MN and they'd probably have beginner equipment to try.

Bowmania

George no BS. Go to the other site and look up the Cloverdale shoot and people complaining about no kids at the shoot and bowyers not selling bows. I agree though that they must be backed up because you can make a bow in a week especially with the tools bowyers have. I'll try to post you a link to the site where you can read it and then you can see where the BS originated.

And how do you know what other people can afford? I have seen . Lots of people say they throw rocks at their other bows. In fact on this thread I believe someone said they shoot the Ember over their Blacktail bows. Making bows,is not rocket science. I'd say that mous high dollar bows won't shoot any better it's just aesthetics that make them higher priced.

"Rumor has it between Black widow, Zipper, Holm made, blacktail and one other (maybe Crooked Stic?) only 1 bow was sold. If we don’t support our bow builders they will have no reason to go to shows".. This is directly from the other site.,you can look up,who posted it as he is the one starting the BS.,one last thing. I have read on here from very accomplished archers like Dave Mitchell and others that this bow is a good bow and shoots as well as some of their "big named bows". These guys are surely not in need of an entry level bow.,they have already enterd lol

JR, there isn't an entity around except Bear Archery that could turn out the number of bows to sate the need for inexpensive bows..entry level or whatever. Regardless of someone crying in their beer about not buying American, there isn't anyone who can make them anyway. Samick sells hundreds of thousands of bows. Who, can you tell me, can even approach a tenth of that here in the US. Now if you want to talk compounds, then there's plenty of American to buy, and they are also priced above my pay grade.

Don't matter how much you want to buy American, it's just not a reality like it once was in the 60's and 70's.

doesn't matter who builds it , it's a dam good shooting & good feeling bow no matter the cost.

I've had a Black Hunter with longbow limbs for a year now. The draw is smooth, to me, out to my 31" draw. I shoot it better than any bow I've had. The few custom bows I have are much better looking but cost 3 to 4 x's as much. I'd rather buy American made but right now I don't want to drop that much cash on a bow. Maybe when I retire I'll treat myself to a high priced fancy bow.

I am 70 yrs. old and retired! I've been shooting for the last 60 yrs, so I an not a Newby to archery! I've been shooting blacktails since 93 or 94! Will allways be in love with my Blkacktail, but its also nice to shoot other bows! I've owned a bunch over the years and will alway be a Blacktail fan! This new Galaxy bow Bought is a really neat and great bow for $200! The one I have is 60" long and I have NO finger pich! If funding is a problem, this would be a great bow to start out with! Another thing, those wo complain about buy bows from out of the country also proably driving non- american vehicles! If people would mind their own busniess,things seem to work better! Its NO ONES ELSE business what anyone one els shoot! Shoot it and enjoy our sport! Just my $.o2! Oh, by the way! With a 500 grn arrow at my draw I am getting 189 fps!

Babysaph,

So lets look at the price of a couple of bows you mentioned of the bows you mentioned: Black Widow starting price right at $1,000, Blacktail on there web site cheapest listed price $1,300, and some of the bows of other Bowyers at the shoot $700-$900. Just because they are Customs doesn't mean, for some shooters, they shoot better than these inexpensive imports. The BS you mentioned came from another site. I never heard what the final tally was for attendants at Cloverdale, from what I saw "maybe" 250-300 total is my best guess. I know on the practice and scoring coarse we saw very few people, for the size of the shoot that it is. Bowyers are not going to sell very many bows with that few of attendees, and at the cost of the bows. I would say in reality they did pretty good if all the Bowyers even sold one bow apiece at the shoot. Question is how many did they sell (down the road) just from the exposure of just being there. I know what shooters I did see shooting, many were already shooting customs. How many do they need to buy? These inexpensive imports are a Boom to Traditional Archery as a whole. They are good bows for a good price to entice people to try Traditional Archery who wouldn't otherwise, especially if it is a whole family. Don't give me the same comment that I hear so many times "Well there are a lot of good used bows out there for them to buy.". First off those were already sold once, so the profit was already made by the builder and they get nothing from the second or third sale of it. Also a lot of those used bow cost more than these being new, also everyone doesn't have access to use bows. Can they get a used bow in a poundage they can shoot/want without looking for a long time, or just settling for what is available and not knowing what they are really getting if they buy used on line. I can tell you when I started in this Recurve and Longbow shooting many years ago I was looking for the most inexpensive bow I could find, that was of good quality, with guidance from a friend. Why, because I didn't know whether I was going to like "Traditional" as we call it now, to begin with. "I" don't like recommending bows to beginners that cost more than I was willing to pay (taking into consideration of today's wages) when I started off as a Newbie. I also don't like recommending bows that I haven't shot or own to someone who has never shot Traditional. I remember what it was like those many years ago when I got started and there wasn't the bow choices there are today for a beginner. Thank God for Bowhunter's Discount Warehouse and their sales back in the day. A buddy (that shot compound for years) of mine got a Samick Journey a couple of years ago, said "A man doesn't need anymore bow than this.", he had his first Recurve kill last fall with it. His wife saw how excited he was killing his first deer with a Recurve, gave him the money to buy any Black Widow he wanted. The inexpensive import bows will lead to more Customs being sold in the long run, more so than if those inexpensive import bows didn't exist. DANNY

I'm just the messenger. I don't care what guys buy. Like George says it is impossible to buy all American now and like someone stated above it usually comes down To cost.

So if there were only 250-300'total shooters at the shoot there couldn't have been that mant kids there. Lol. And I did mention above that the info I posted came from another site.

Yes as you said you were just the messenger. I was just trying to put in perspective the message you brought from the other site. There were some kids there, not many. I had fun watching this one boy. He was Just Wearing Out the rod and reel he was fishing with, using a jig and grub in the clubs pond. He was catching a fair amount of Bluegills with it, don't know if he caught anything else. DANNY

Well as I say I was t there and brought up another thread about what I heard was a low attendance for kids. Seems the attendance was down all the way around.

Back to the OP, I bought a Galaxy Ember recurve from Lancaster Archery. I got it with 55# limbs and they scaled my limbs at 54# for me before they shipped it. I paid $211.00 shipped to my door with tax. I decided to pay a little extra by ordering from Lancaster because they are great to deal with and I wanted to make sure my limbs came in close to 55# (I asked to be within +/- a pound). I did switch strings as soon as I got it. I have been shooting this bow daily for a couple months and really like it, it will be my hunting bow this coming season. I've never dealt with Twig Archery but have heard good things about them. Good luck and good on you for helping your uncle!

I should add that when my bow came from Lancaster, I had to bolt on the limbs and I put on a calf's hair rest and striker. I'm sure Lancaster or Twig would do that for you but don't know about added cost.

I bought mine from Twig for $199.

It came with bamboo limbs, FF string, cat whiskers, brass string nock, rug rest and side plate- ALL INSTALLED READY TO SHOOT!

They even included a FREE bow stringer.

Limbs weighed, bow inspected, 100% satisfaction guaranteed.

All this from one of the nicest guys in archery!

I don't care how cheap you can buy one from auction sites or direct from Asia, you cannot beat this bargain and service.

And yes, the Black Hunter is that good. I prefer it over my $1000 Brackenbury.

Yes, have them check the weight at your draw. Mine came 4 pounds heavy.

I received one last week. Wanted one with 45lb limbs. I called Terry at the Footed Shaft, he put it on the scale and over the phone as he weighed it said, "47 @ 28"... 48.5 just shy of 29"..." I said "close enough". To be honest, after shooting it, I'm still a die hard longbow guy, BUT I've owned several "high end" recurves with names we all revere and the Ember feels better than all of them. Personally I'd order one from Lancaster, Twig or The Footed Shaft, ask them to scale it and then buy with confidence.

can you imagine buying six of these bows at your weight of choice & just shoot one till it blows up & then put the next one in service till it does the same, & then repeat again & again.

verses a 1200$ widow. i sold my widow after buying this ember & a set or two of limbs. i shoot it more & just as well & not afraid to scratch it. it's all good now.

Well anyway my point might have been misunderstood. Why would anyone buy an expensive big named bow when these are just as good? Lots of guys like em better than their customs.

Looks, JR. Some folks like fancy wood and are willing to pay a lot of money to have a pretty bow to sit and look at while waiting for that deer to come along. You can get performance a bunch less expensively so it has to be the pretty factor. Like Zipper bows motto, "Life's too short to shoot an ugly bow."

Since I’m being quoted above I’ll jump in. I bought a black rock, strung it up and put it on a peg. Next day the top limb was folded in half. That’s an expensive bow in my book, $100 and I didn’t get to shoot a single arrow out of it.

Shoot whatever you want, makes no difference to me. I don’t make my living selling bows, but I have friends that have and do. Just don’t complain when you can’t find a shoot with a custom bower, or can’t find someone who will build a bow exactly how you want it. My hats off to guys trying to make a living selling bows, and I’ll support them and what they do as long as I’m able and I’ll make no apologies for it.

There's a archery supply company in NYC that is working directly with the Asian manufacturer and carrying a line both the recurves and longbows made in some exotic wood combos - Hunters Editions. He was a vendor at a trad only shoot I help organize in CT. They come with a custom bow string, wool silencers, bow sock and I think a stringer. They looked great! PM me if you want more info.

"Why would anyone buy an expensive big named bow when these are just as good?"

Some people like things that are a bit unique and don't mind paying for it. A custom bow often gives you choices such as riser wood selection, possibly some personal input on shelf design or grip contour, clear limb glass over sweet looking solid wood lams, possibly a choice of riser and limb lengths. A budget priced Chinese bow usually comes with black glass over maple limbs (or bamboo) and a stained laminated maple riser. No options. Sometimes the limbs are painted black, including the sides. Small blemishes in finish or stain imperfections are not uncommon. With all that said, I have owned many nice American made bows but currently shoot a Samick Sage. The Sage shoots very well but doesn't have the appearance of a custom bow. Workhorse or elegance?

Warranty could be another big difference. Most of the budget bows come with a one year warranty. Sometimes a better warranty is offered with more expensive bows. Bodnik offers either a 30-year or a lifetime warranty (transferrable).

I got the best of both worlds! Found a one year old HH Half-breed for $275 in the classifieds. Like New and shoots great with fantastic looking Yew limbs under clear glass. It's my go to bow now. Love it! There are deals to be had. Just have to keep your eyes peeled.

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