I have started to experiment with ILF bows. I have a TradTech Pinnacle II, 19" wood riser with Tradtech wood grain recurve limbs, which makes a nice looking 62" AMO, 40# bow. It is a very smooth draw and shoots good, but I tend to like more mass weight in my bows. On my takedowns and one-piece bows, I always mount quivers, asthe added weight makes it feel more stable for me. I see 3 Rivers has ILF mounting adapters for the Great Northern quiver - has anyone tried that ? I think I would prefer that over using a boa style on the ILF limbs, and I have a GN quiver on a TD I'm not shooting much.

I also have a set of longbow limbs rated at 45# on a 17" riser, so they are in the low 40s on this 19" riser. With the longbow limbs on the 19" Pinnacle II riser, the feel is just not to my liking, and the speed is lacking. I could probably tweak the tiller and string to improve it, but I am thinking about getting a shorter riser, perhaps a 15" or 17" for the longbow limbs, and maybe a heavier 19" riser for the recurve. I have some other recurve limbs, including some Samick foam core shorts, 50# on 17", so I may just trade or sell the TradTech to get a heavier 17" or 19" riser for my recurve set up.

So, looking at all aluminum, or perhaps wood with phenolic or other extra mass weight components, 15", 17", or 19" risers, any recommendations of what to try or what to stay away from ?

Thanks in advance.

More weight 19”, Gillo Super Hunter. Nice.

I ended up with a 17” Hoyt Satori. It’s lighter than the Gillo and I like 17” with long limbs.

I like the 19" omp nightridge riser. It has good weight. Others to look @ are a used tt titan, or 3rivers daala. Aluminum will be heavier. I had a pinnacle 2, which cracked. It was a great riser which is no longer available. You wouldnt have any problems trading that riser. 2 things to think of, what weight would make you happy, and what grip do you like. Lots of options available.

I'd advise 21 inches, but I'm fussy when it comes to string angle.

As ususal money is the an issue. Have not seen anything to beat a Tempest. Have not tried DAS yet, but just got one last Friday an Elite. They're hard to find - snap it up if you see one. You'll alwasy be able to resell.

On the cost low side don't over look Warfs. Hoyt Excel is also excellent for the buck. THese don't have LLA, which will always add to the cost.

I also like Morrison, Bernardini Cobera, Optima and Satori, with maybe the Cobra at the top of that heap???

Bowmania

It depends on the money you want to spend and if you are too "purist" to use a hunter's stab for additional weight. I would buy whatever riser appeals to me in the price range I am comfortable to pay and I will add a 4" hunting stab if I want it heavier. My single demand would be to have the bushing for the stab. If you are looking at 17" riser, Samick Discovery from Alt. is the best buck for the money imo - $165.

https://www.alternativess.com/cgi- bin/htmlos.cgi/0045111.3.27452728889217501530/SAMDISR

You can find it in Traditional area.

Thanks for the input guys. I do already have the Samick Discovery on the way with the foam core limbs from Alt SS - much cheaper than buying from 3R, unfortunately. I intend to try that riser with the longbow limbs to see if that feels better than the 19" TT Pinnacle 2 riser. If so, I may stick with that riser for the longbow and get a heavier 19" or maybe 21" for the recurve setup. If I really like that riser for both, I can switch out or sell the TT P2 and get another Samick riser so I don't have to swap out.

Draven - I am not a purist by any means, but unfortunately some of the folks in charge of trad 3D events in this region are purists - anything with add-ons other than a quiver, such as a stab or elevated rest, can't be used in the recurve or longbow classes. We have 1 organization that will let you shoot in multiple classes, so my desire is to set up a longbow to shoot off shelf I can compete with in longbow, and a full modern recurve I can shoot in "Open" which does allow for stabs, elevated rests, etc. (but not sights.) I already have several recurves that I can shoot in recurve class.

I've always been a big fan of the TT Titan III, 19" and with enough weight to make it a stable platform. A barebow weight can be added if not enough. They come up used pretty frequently.

The CD riser also has some weight but it is expensive and not seen too much used.

Anyone have any experience with the ILF adapters for the GN limb bolt mount quiver ?

blackbear warf. cant imagin what a ilf quiver adapter would look like. my 3 pce bows without holes wear a efa ok. blackbear is more mass weight than I can stand. ymmv.

They allow ILF in longbow?

Well...your 'cheater' riser options are the Satori and the CD. The way the shelf designs are on those, they are really easy to set up.

I didn't want as much weight as the CD. The Gillo Ghost shoots easiest off of a stick on riser and the Satori is the happy medium.

I really couldn't be happier with the Satori

I will double check, but I believe they do allow ILF limbs in "modern longbow" and "modern recurve". They've changed up the classes a bit recently with a 'primitive" class for the true purists - all wood or natural materials, wood arrows, etc., then the "modern" classes for the typical glass/carbon backed limbs, but still shoot off shelf with no "gadgets" and minimum arrow weight, and Open category, where you can shoot anything so long as it doesn't have sights or cams, and light weight arrows.

I have the Bernardini Nilo riser for Barebow/Strinwalking/Field. It is EXCELLENT. The Hoyt Satori is right there.

JC Optimus from John's Custom Archery.

All you'll ever need, and then some.

Rick

I've been playing with a pair of Gold Medalist #4 risers, one modified to shoot off the shelf. One with short Easton 50# carbon foam limbs, the other with long Samick #40 carbon foam limbs. These are HEAVY, which does contribute to accuracy.

CD Archery WF19 Stalker is a sweet riser

Shooting classes for traditional archery are past ridiculous. I shoot what I want and don’t care about ugly medals or little plastic trophy’s. The kids need those, I just need to enjoy myself shooting.

B.T., I agree the rules can be silly, but I enjoy playing the games. I've been a competitive compound 3D shooter for decades, in various classes. Win some, lose a lot, but I enjoy it, so I'm willing to invest a little time & money to play by their rules and see how I do.

I actually went to an event about 10 years ago with a camo PSE ILF bow. The organizers wouldn't let me compete because my bow had an elevated rest. One guy didn't even want to let me shoot at all, even for fun, like the mere sight of my bow was offensive.LOL Wiser heads prevailed and I was allowed to shoot for fun, but it kinda soured me on Trad events for a while. The current organization leaders are more common sense guys, thus the relaxing of the rules a bit.

B.T., I agree the rules can be silly, but I enjoy playing the games. I've been a competitive compound 3D shooter for decades, in various classes. Win some, lose a lot, but I enjoy it, so I'm willing to invest a little time & money to play by their rules and see how I do.

I actually went to an event about 10 years ago with a camo PSE ILF bow. The organizers wouldn't let me compete because my bow had an elevated rest. One guy didn't even want to let me shoot at all, even for fun, like the mere sight of my bow was offensive.LOL Wiser heads prevailed and I was allowed to shoot for fun, but it kinda soured me on Trad events for a while. The current organization leaders are more common sense guys, thus the relaxing of the rules a bit.

Titan- I own the 3. Good riser.

I recently picked up a Chinese copy of a 17" Morrison. I had been looking for the early version tbe Morrison (Gen 1) without the cutouts and just found one. It appears that the copy might be cast, but can't tell for sure. Seems quite serviceable and for $60?

CD Archery WF19. Heavy and shoots itself. The built in jump is awesome and the hardware is as good as it gets. Will be my go to setup for whitetail hunting for years to come I believe. I wish they also made it in 21 inch version but the 19 with medium limbs gives me a 62 inch bow which is about right.

I went to a "strictly traditional" shoot once with an ML-10 longbow with compound bracket round wheels mounted on each end. Only one person was amused and understood my point. I like the DAS options available. It's what most others copied.

Have you thought of installing a stabilizer/bowfishing bushing in the front of your wood riser?

Then you could play with short stabs or barebow weights, and remove them if not allowed for a particular shoot.

I do that with my ILF bow, doesn't make much difference shooting, just a bit steadier during practice sessions.

A whole $3.50!

https://www.3riversarchery.com/front-stabilizer-insert.html

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