Traditional Archery Discussions on the Leatherwall


Front and rear sights

Messages posted to thread:
Sarge 09-Apr-19
Supernaut 09-Apr-19
Sarge 09-Apr-19
Missouribreaks 09-Apr-19
George D. Stout 09-Apr-19
Jimbob 09-Apr-19
Draven 09-Apr-19
Sarge 09-Apr-19
Sarge 09-Apr-19
George D. Stout 09-Apr-19
Sarge 09-Apr-19
David A. 09-Apr-19
ground hunter 09-Apr-19
larryhatfield 09-Apr-19
Will tell 09-Apr-19
Sarge 09-Apr-19
fdp 09-Apr-19
Babbling Bob 09-Apr-19
RonG 09-Apr-19
George Tsoukalas 09-Apr-19
Rick Barbee 09-Apr-19
Sarge 09-Apr-19
timex 10-Apr-19
From: Sarge
Date: 09-Apr-19




With a pistol, I focus on the front sight and the target is not my focus but my second focal plane.

I shoot a pistol and a Bow with both eyes open, even a rifle with or without a scope.

The only time I shut my non-dominant eye on a scoped rifle is to shoot at a bullet hole at 100 yards or more.

With a Bow, I focus on the target and see my arrow in the arrow in my peripheral and line it up based on my clear view of the target I want to hit.

How do you do it and why?

Why is this different?

From: Supernaut
Date: 09-Apr-19




I shoot my bow with both eyes open but always see my arrow in my peripheral vision, I guess this is termed "split vision". Past 30 yards I use the tip of my arrow to gap still with both eyes open. My point on is exactly 40 yards.

Anything with a front and rear sight like a pistol or my flintlock I close my non-dominant eye when sighting, I also use this method for anything scoped.

If I am skeet shooting with a shotgun or shooting at moving targets like rabbits or birds I shoot with both eyes open and don't notice the bead on the barrel. If I'm shooting at a stationary object with a shotgun like a turkey head, I close my non-dominant eye and sight down the barrel with the bead.

I do things the way I do because they work for me.

From: Sarge
Date: 09-Apr-19




We are shooting twins Super. I keep both open on a Bow because I lose depth perception with one eye closed.

From: Missouribreaks
Date: 09-Apr-19




I keep all of my eyes wide open when shooting a bow.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 09-Apr-19




My Lakefield 22 rifle has rear and front sights and I use both, but still shoot with both eyes open. I also keep both eyes open when I shoot scoped rifles.

From: Jimbob
Date: 09-Apr-19




I do the exact same thing. I was shooting my bow the other day and then pulled my pistol and sure enough the target was in my blurred vision, where as with my bow my arrow is in my blurred vison and the target in focus. I don't know why.

From: Draven
Date: 09-Apr-19




I shoot with both eyes open.

When I stringwalk, the focus is 80% on the target and 20% on the arrow tip - the feeling of "seeing through" the arrow tip can explain it. I switched very quick to this because focusing on the arrow tip makes the natural body sway more perceptible and made me want to shoot when the arrow is "there" - the path to TP.

When I don't use stringwalking I am focusing on the target and the arrow is on peripheral vision.

From: Sarge
Date: 09-Apr-19




Same Draven. Some want a bow sight when the arrow tip is right there in front of them. The anchor height and location can be the rear sight on a Bow.

From: Sarge
Date: 09-Apr-19




Just would like to add this for illustration. Having shot a recurve so many years with a good solid anchor, am able to shoot a compound with no peep sight and be very accurate just string blurring the string to the riser very accurately. I just line up the string with the risers sight window and the left and right is good.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 09-Apr-19




Sam, I shoot a compound just like my recurve as well, just barebow but with a forty year old compound that is more finger friendly. I shot competitively as well with a compound shooting fingers and not sight. Enjoyed it immensely and still have one around for that side of the sport.

From: Sarge
Date: 09-Apr-19




Yes, it is all good.

From: David A.
Date: 09-Apr-19




It's a fallacy closing one eye creates inability to have depth perception. Yes, I understand triangulation, but I stand by my claim and anyone can prove this in a variety of tasks. A true absurdity that most people accept unquestioningly.

From: ground hunter
Date: 09-Apr-19




I shot all my life, from recreation to combat reasons, I always shot with both eyes open, except for extreme yardages with rifle and scope.....

I always shoot my bows for hunting with both eyes open, just natural for me

but what is most important, is do you hit what you need too at crunch time, that is what matters.....

its all good

From: larryhatfield
Date: 09-Apr-19




Neuroscientists have known for a long time that the brain uses other visual cues to estimate distance. People who are blind in one eye have impaired depth perception, but they still have functional depth perception. The world does not look flat to them. Monocular depth perception functions well enough, for example, to allow for safe driving. I know this for a fact since I lost my left eye in November.

From: Will tell
Date: 09-Apr-19




I always figured my anchor was my back sight and all I had to do was line up my front sight, kind of like pointing with your finger. Some use the point of the arrow.

From: Sarge
Date: 09-Apr-19




David A, not for me, maybe for you. I suggest you hold off on "Fallacy theories" considering that according to you, Al Bundy did not score 4 touchdowns in a single game and you were actually in Neil Armstrong's suit playing golf on the Moon instead of Arizona.

From: fdp
Date: 09-Apr-19




What Larry and David A. said. And the fact that your brain has already made the depth perception calculation prior to your closing the off side eye.

From: Babbling Bob Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 09-Apr-19




Just stick the point where I think it needs to be with both of'em wide open.

Shoot and drive without glasses. Got where my glasses stay on more nowdays for just plain living, but not for shooting as they tend to distort my distance as they do for driving.

From: RonG
Date: 09-Apr-19




Larry, so sorry to hear that, hope you are getting along alright.

I shoot everything with both eyes open.

From: George Tsoukalas
Date: 09-Apr-19




Larry, sorry to hear that also. Jawge

From: Rick Barbee
Date: 09-Apr-19




Dang Larry. Sorry to hear that. 8^(

I hold the bow pretty much the same as I hold a pistol.

Front sight is my arrow tip. Rear sight in my string/string blur.

I Draw to anchor with both eyes open, but at the instant I hit anchor I close my left eye (left eye dominant). Realignment after closing the left eye is achieved in an instant.

Once my depth perception is set with both eyes open, I never lose it when the left eye closes.

Rick

From: Sarge
Date: 09-Apr-19




t takes both/2 eyes working together to have proper depth perception.

It works because both eyes focus/look at something from different angles. (Since eyes are apart from each other but on the same plane, and face in the same direction/forward)

The brain perceives/constructs a three-dimensional model/depth perception from two slightly offset/different images of the same object/area.

Even if someone has 2 working eyes but they are not both able to focus on the same spot/area, depth perception is impaired or even absent. Such as having crossed eyes (strabismus) or lazy eye (amblyopia). Or if one of the eyes is injured and has trouble seeing.

If you cover one eye and then try to pick up things, you will probably find that it is not as quick and easy as doing it while using both eyes. This is because your brain has to use other clues than stereoscopic vision/depth perception and is not used to doing this without the stereoscopic vision part.

From: timex
Date: 10-Apr-19




bow both open. iron sights pistol & long gun depends on how far or moving or not & scoped rifle also depends on stationary or moving target & how far the target is & scope magnification for instance both eyes open @ 4× equals instant target acquisition but looking thru a 42× benchrest scope with both eyes open will give you a headache





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