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**Release 2 (Back Tension)

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Bowmania 08-Apr-19
camodave 08-Apr-19
Flash 08-Apr-19
bugslinger 08-Apr-19
motherlode 08-Apr-19
Smokedinpa 08-Apr-19
Bowmania 08-Apr-19
zetabow 09-Apr-19
Smokedinpa 09-Apr-19
Bowmania 09-Apr-19
zetabow 09-Apr-19
Sarge 09-Apr-19
bugslinger 09-Apr-19
badgerman 09-Apr-19
SB 09-Apr-19
From: Bowmania Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 08-Apr-19




If you don't like this regimented/form orientated shooting, you don't need to comment. DON'T DO IT BECAUSE I DO IT, DO IT BECAUSE IT MAKES SENSE TO YOU. All these form threads are no substitute for a coach. No matter how good any written word is, it can't point and say, “move this here”.

In the first release thread, I mention Rick McKinney's two ways to get off the string. Continues movement and stop and start. You use back tension to use either one. There are three ways to use back tension, push and pull, push, or pull.

Push and pull is squeezing your shoulder blades together. I think you should try and do one thing at a time. This has you doing two. AND worse yet, if your pushing is not equaling your pulling you'll miss right or left. Further more, you're using back tension to release the string, the bow arm side of the body is not holding the string.

Push is having a static release or stationary release. Come to anchor and push the bow arm forward. This type of release has to involve moving the fingers to get off the string

That leaves us with pull.

Something that I should have mentioned on the release thread. A good way to practice your release is with a string bow. It's a loop of string about the diameter of the serving on a regular bow string. Put on end of the loop on the life line of your bow hand and just draw back with your tap on you string hand. No real resistance until you get to full draw and then you can't draw any further. You hit the wall. Use your back muscles to pull your finger off the string. This is a good way to practice Rick's stop and start release.

There's also a TheraBand. It's just a thick rubber band that comes in various strengths according to color. I'm currently using orange, but have also used the green. Color is not too important. You can just use more band if it's too strong. Cut a section and tie an over hand knot in the two ends and you have a loop. Use it like the string bow and you should have about 15 pounds of weight when at full draw. You can use this and the string bow to practice Rick's continual movement release.

Shooting a clicker is great way to learn back tension. I shot a bow for 20 years and didn't know what a perfect release was until I put on a clicker. The real issue on a clicker is it has to be setup correctly. Guess what it should click after alignment and before too far.

Most people don't shoot a clicker. I think it's a pretty easy path to use one to learn how to shoot, but should not be shot against someone not using a clicker. I can't target shoot anymore so these threads are about hunting. I shot a clicker in Africa. An impala is twice as high strung as a whitetail. A number of times I drew on an impala and click but did not shoot. They didn't move.

Another great tool is a Formaster (the ridged one). Really gives you the feeling of total back tension. It attaches to your elbow so when you draw your forearm is not involved.

Think about this when practicing. Focus on the follow through. All the muscles from your elbow down to knuckles are relaxed. Only the hook in the fingers are cocked. The string pushes the hook in the fingers away, but you didn't relax your fingers. They are probably curled more after the release than before. That though really helped me improve my 'release'. The goal is to have it become subconscious. That allows us to concentrate on the LAST thing to do in the shot.

To reference past subjects search by clicking on key word;

**Stance** **Grip** **Hook** **Body Posture** **Head Position** **KSL Sequence** **Set Position** **Set Up Position** **Anchor** **Transfer to Hold** **Release**

From: camodave
Date: 08-Apr-19




The most consistent use of a string bow I have sewn is by a friend who shoots compound 3D with, of all things, a back tension release. Even during a competition he is constantly exercising that simple yet effective training device. My motto is simple. If you want to be your best learn from the best. Just yesterday, after shooting seriously for 10 years, I finally sorted out how to achieve the consistent finger tensions on my draw hand I have been looking for, something a good coach would have done in minutes. I was just looking at the local FITA shoot schedule yesterday. Time to start even if I am 67. And thanks for giving me that final push I needed. And I thought I was done buying bows,eh.

DDave

From: Flash
Date: 08-Apr-19




I totally agree, focus needs to be on one thing once you have decided to shoot.

From: bugslinger
Date: 08-Apr-19




Again, thank you for the great info Todd.

From: motherlode
Date: 08-Apr-19




Extremely important, for me the lack of this is what leads to target panic.

From: Smokedinpa
Date: 08-Apr-19




Todd this is good info. I always struggle with how hard to come off the string. I see people engage the back and appear to come off the string very quickly and others their fingers appear to glide off the string and barely any hand movement. What are your thoughts? I feel like if I come off the string too hard other stuff moves.

From: Bowmania Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 08-Apr-19




Smoke in that last 'release' thread I mentioned not moving for 5 seconds after the arrow hit the target. Do that and I think you can answer your own question.

The only movement at release is my hand going back about 6 (?) inches behind my ear. The hand at anchor has the knuckles vertical (or close to it) and horizontal at conclusion.

Motherlode, I think the next thread will be aiming and I'll get into a bit of TP discusion and what causes it.

Bowmania

From: zetabow
Date: 09-Apr-19




A good training tool is two pieces of paracord joined by Velcro strips (I also have plastic tube as a grip) the idea is to pull apart or break away the Velcro strips during expansion, you can adjust the force by how much Velcro you stick.

I found it very useful in understanding the BT feeling and building up back muscles, I kept it around the house and used it whenever I had a spare moment.

From: Smokedinpa
Date: 09-Apr-19




Cool idea.- might need to make one. Have one of those Saunders firing lines I believe it’s called. Set it so that when I expand my fingers come off the string.

From: Bowmania Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 09-Apr-19




Sounds like a gread idea. Is it just for back tension? In other words your fingers don't release.

Bowmania

From: zetabow
Date: 09-Apr-19




yes, it teaches you to power through the shot using the back

From: Sarge
Date: 09-Apr-19




"Never stop pulling" Jenkins

From: bugslinger
Date: 09-Apr-19




"Never stop pulling" Jenkins May imply that force should be directed in line with the orientation of the arrow (in line with the archer's shoulder), when it should be directed behind the archer (backside. "Keep squeezing" may be more appropriate for this type of form.

From: badgerman Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 09-Apr-19




Todd, I've got a question for you. You said at the conclusion of the release the knuckles are horizonal. Does this mean as you are expanding with back tension you are slightly rotating your string hand counter clockwise as the release fires automatically? Joel

From: SB
Date: 09-Apr-19




I never did get the back tension,pinch your shoulder blades together thing! Still don't. Been shooting and hunting 60+ years with no issues!





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