From: GlassPowered Hoosier
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Date: 15-Mar-19 |
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Could anyone stear in in the direction of someone who makes replacement Bear TD limb pockets? These are the components that are actually glued into the riser.
I was replacing the part that holds the latch down and as I was driving the drive pin out I broke the cast piece that was drilled for the drive pin.
Since I’m now this deep in: i’m consdering going all in and just upgrading the entire thing to machined aluminum over cast.
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From: Orion
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Date: 15-Mar-19 |
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Unless you can find someone with a broken riser, the only other source I'm aware of is Bear, and I don't know if they sell them.
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From: SB
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Date: 15-Mar-19 |
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Lots of luck getting one of those out of the riser!!
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From: Recurve Crafter ™
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Date: 15-Mar-19 |
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It will come out with a little heat and some prying.
However, when you apply the heat to the socket, the overlays on the face of the riser will likely start to delaminate.
As mentioned previously, Bear is the only source to get the parts, and I don't think they will sell the sockets separately.
The only other place to get them is from an existing riser.
There have been some people that were able to get Bear replace a damaged or broken socket for them, but it's tough to get in touch with the right person to make that happen.
If you can get a hold of the plant manager (Neil Byce), that would probably be about the only way you'll get Bear to fix it.
"Regular" customer service probably won't help you.
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From: Recurve Crafter ™
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Date: 15-Mar-19 |
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Here you go SB.
Proof that you can get them out.
I've pulled them out of three different risers myself, and I know of a few others that have done the same.
Good old Bowdoc was one of them.
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From: SB
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Date: 15-Mar-19 |
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I know a couple of you have pulled that off!...I wouldn't want to try it!
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From: M60gunner
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Date: 15-Mar-19 |
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So let’s say I decided to pull out the socket and reproduce it. Is the patent still good? I thought patents run out unless renewed then there has to be a “newer” version, updated version?
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From: Recurve Crafter ™
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Date: 15-Mar-19 |
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The patent expired back in the early 90's.
As long as you don't infringe on their trademark and market them as original Bear parts, it shouldn't be an issue.
No one has done it because the set up cost to cast, stamp, form, and machine all the parts is too much. It'd be difficult to get a return on investment considering what a niche market it is.
You'd probably be lucky to break even on the set up cost.
A few years back I was talking to a gentleman from Europe that had a friend who was seriously looking into having the parts produced.
The estimate just to get the patterns made and set up to cast the sockets was about $50,000.
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From: hvac tech
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Date: 15-Mar-19 |
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I rplaced one last year on an early 80 one
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From: hvac tech
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Date: 15-Mar-19 |
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I replaced one last year on an early 80 one
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From: hvac tech
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Date: 15-Mar-19 |
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I replaced one last year on an early 80 one
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From: hvac tech
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Date: 15-Mar-19 |
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I replaced one last year on an early 80 one
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From: hvac tech
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Date: 15-Mar-19 |
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Sorry for the repeats it is a job no doubt i was able to get a new pocket . Murray Landry has the bow
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From: M60gunner
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Date: 15-Mar-19 |
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50k, maybe I could apply for a grant from the Feds? Call it history research.
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From: hvac tech
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Date: 16-Mar-19 |
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If you want make some from solid bar stock still expensive .
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From: RC
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Date: 16-Mar-19 |
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Damn Joe, I didn't know you were that talented:)
^5
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From: GlassPowered Hoosier
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Date: 16-Mar-19 |
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Thank you for all of the insight.
Upon further inspection after having my mind clear from breaking a expensive bow: I have realized what’s broken isn’t a limb weight bearing piece so I’ve decided to be least invasive and epoxy it back in and drill out the hole for the roll pin. Then shim up the piece with wood or steel as I drive the pin back in.
I knew it was possible to remove the pockets but didn’t know how easy I could get my hands on one. I’m having a friend of mine who has a cnc machine make up the spring loaded tabs that hold the latches out of solid aluminum to replace the original plastic ones. I had a limb pop off years ago and chip off some of the plastic. Never really liked how it looked after that, been afraid it would happen again, then I’d really have a mess.
Was just trying to weigh out my risks before I made a decision.
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From: Whiskey Creek
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Date: 17-Mar-19 |
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I have also pulled pockets from a green stripe to save the riser itself. Its a tricky job, too much heat with the wrong pressure and the riser will come apart. I know of a guy in Michigan that phase 3-4 sets of pockets never used but he wants waaay to much for them, so it looks like I'll be looking for broken risers as well.
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From: Recurve Crafter ™
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Date: 17-Mar-19 |
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How much is he asking for them?
If you don't want to post the price publicly, please shoot me a PM.
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