Traditional Archery Discussions on the Leatherwall


Contact Paper Wraps Whoa!

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cobra 13-Mar-19
Curt 13-Mar-19
SB 13-Mar-19
Therifleman 13-Mar-19
monkeyball 13-Mar-19
Riverwolf 13-Mar-19
Redheadtwo 13-Mar-19
deerhunt51 13-Mar-19
tecum-tha 13-Mar-19
2blade 13-Mar-19
M60gunner 13-Mar-19
cobra 13-Mar-19
Chris Walker 13-Mar-19
2nocks 13-Mar-19
monkeyball 13-Mar-19
fdp 13-Mar-19
Smokedinpa 13-Mar-19
cobra 14-Mar-19
monkeyball 14-Mar-19
George D. Stout 14-Mar-19
RC 14-Mar-19
George D. Stout 14-Mar-19
Kent Alan 14-Mar-19
JimPic 14-Mar-19
RC 14-Mar-19
JimPic 14-Mar-19
Kent Alan 14-Mar-19
dean 14-Mar-19
Iwander 14-Mar-19
PeteA 14-Mar-19
dean 14-Mar-19
aromakr 14-Mar-19
monkeyball 14-Mar-19
RC 14-Mar-19
monkeyball 14-Mar-19
Sawtooth (Original) 14-Mar-19
aromakr 14-Mar-19
monkeyball 14-Mar-19
JimPic 15-Mar-19
monkeyball 15-Mar-19
B.T. 15-Mar-19
Rough Run 15-Mar-19
bigdaddy 15-Mar-19
RC 15-Mar-19
B.T. 15-Mar-19
PECO 15-Mar-19
NY Yankee 15-Mar-19
RC 15-Mar-19
monkeyball 15-Mar-19
monkeyball 15-Mar-19
RC 15-Mar-19
monkeyball 15-Mar-19
RC 15-Mar-19
old buck 15-Mar-19
K Cummings 16-Mar-19
RC 16-Mar-19
K Cummings 16-Mar-19
RC 16-Mar-19
Shawn 16-Mar-19
Sparky 16-Mar-19
Rough Run 16-Mar-19
From: cobra
Date: 13-Mar-19




So I have dismissed wraps re arrow making because they seemed too expensive to me. Traditional Bowhunter has an interesting article this month using self adhesive contact paper for wraps....hmmnn. At first, I was still dismissive. Skeptical/appearance/longevity/ affect on flight. But, now I am curious enough that I intend to give it a try. Anybody with experience on this. Post pictures if you have them.

From: Curt
Date: 13-Mar-19




I read the article also. I looked up contact paper online, it seemed color choices are VERY limited unfortunately.

From: SB
Date: 13-Mar-19




Cheezy....I use paint.

From: Therifleman
Date: 13-Mar-19




If you're on a tight budget, poke around a little and look for a local business that does vinyl signs. Many will be willing to save scraps for you and the material works very well.

I have always found Onestringer wraps very reasonable when bought in quantity-- you can split with a buddy or 3.

From: monkeyball
Date: 13-Mar-19




I buy sheets of the vinyl wrap. I tried cutting the first batch with a rotary cutter. It can be done....but I wanted something a bit quicker so I bought a guillotine trimmer.

The only change I see from factory bought is the lack of trailing edge to start your lift.

Another words it can be a bit tedious to start to lift your wrap off the backing.

The plus is you can custom cut the length and width to accommodate shaft size and fletch length.

And........they are a lot cheaper if you do not mind solid colors.

Good Shooting->->->->Craig

From: Riverwolf
Date: 13-Mar-19




Onestringer !

From: Redheadtwo
Date: 13-Mar-19




I bought some adhesive backed vinyl sheets at Hobby Lobby for $1.49 each. They had red,black,and white. 12 1/4 X 8 1/4 in size.

From: deerhunt51
Date: 13-Mar-19




On ebay, white cap wraps are $5 a dozen. I cut them in half, so 24 arrows for $5. Can't beat them IMHO. If you shoot longer feathers, $5 still reasonable for a dozen cap wraps.

From: tecum-tha Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 13-Mar-19




Expensive? Onestringer.com Solids are dirt sheap.

From: 2blade
Date: 13-Mar-19




the easiest and cheapest thing i have found is stripes for a car. just go on the internet and get a 1 inch wide stripe and cut it at the length you want. works great.

From: M60gunner
Date: 13-Mar-19




Website: My Craft Source Has same material as OneStringer uses. Buy by the sheet or rolls. I also looked at that article but the pictures of the material he used turned me off. I got some material from my son that he used on a race car. I am fortunate to have a paper cutter to cut it with and yes it is tricky to peel it off the paper without a ledge. I used my xacto knife edge. DYI is OK if your experimenting. But like others I buy my wraps from One Stringer. I buy the flo colors and crest over them. Wraps have solved all my glue issues (compatibles) on aluminums and carbons.

From: cobra
Date: 13-Mar-19




Cheesey...that was my initial thought but I found vinyl wrwps and wondered if they would work. I figured they have to be better than contact paper. I think of those 1970 color schemes or arrows that are wrapped in a pie recipe. Ha! Anyhow, I was just thinking of simple primary colors- red, green, blue. yellow. Something colorful for stumping.

From: Chris Walker
Date: 13-Mar-19




Onestringer

From: 2nocks
Date: 13-Mar-19




another vote for onestringer. hard to beat wraps on aluminum

From: monkeyball
Date: 13-Mar-19




What color cheese you prefer Cobra....yellow or orange? Mine are 6" x 1" if that works for you.

Pick a color and pm me your address and I will get some in the mail to you to try out.

Good Shooting->->->->Craig

From: fdp
Date: 13-Mar-19




Folks been using contact paper for wraps for years.

If you look in craft stores as mentioned above there are all kinds of things that can be used and that work well. I saw some that a guy made out colored duct tape. Looked as good as any.

From: Smokedinpa
Date: 13-Mar-19




One stringer. Like the reflective. All Very durable.

From: cobra
Date: 14-Mar-19




Thanks all for the input. M60-Funny you should mention vinyl applications re a race car. My son is all hopped up on applying/wrapping vinyl to his car. He suggested use on my boat and that along with the article in T.B magazine is what sent me down this road.

From: monkeyball
Date: 14-Mar-19




Remember....if you get into rolling your own here, the only difference is they are a bit harder to get started off the backing paper. Use a very fine blade to make the initial lift.

Good Shooting->->->->Craig

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 14-Mar-19




Here's a thread on it from 2008. Folks been looking for a cheaper way for decades.

http://leatherwall.bowsite.com/TF/lw/thread2.cfm?threadid=182814&category=88#2297550

From: RC
Date: 14-Mar-19




I use contact paper and a paper cutter, works slick and I don't have any problems getting them to peel off.

Ya all need to stop biting your fingernails:)

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 14-Mar-19




RC, they don't want to mess up their mani-pedi.

From: Kent Alan
Date: 14-Mar-19




Arrow wraps are hardly "expensive". Lots of sellers on eBay who sell cheap arrow wraps, although in some cases, color variations may raise the price.

Been buying from this seller for years. 2 dozen for $7.99: https://www.ebay.com/itm/WHITE-CRESTED-ARROW-WRAPS-ARCHERY- BOWHUNTING/190197410548? epid=1433052747&hash=item2c48a62af4:g:P1AAAOxy~iJQ-F7U

I sometimes use these for a quick fix when I don't care about color variation: https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-dozen-High-Quality- Arrow-Wraps-You-choose-color-and-size/223447019097? hash=item34067aee59:m:m6kZ9hcyYePMMh3EINXy7aQ

God and Christ Bless

From: JimPic
Date: 14-Mar-19

JimPic's embedded Photo



I just made up about 7-8 doz. I buy rolls at Lowe's and can get 12 dozen. 1"x 7" wraps for about $4.00

From: RC
Date: 14-Mar-19




Exactly my setup, Jim.

From: JimPic
Date: 14-Mar-19




I haven't bought commercial wraps in years

From: Kent Alan
Date: 14-Mar-19




I think I might not be as ingenious as you, JimPic ;)

From: dean
Date: 14-Mar-19




A piece of cardboard with six holes for arrows and a can of Rustolem works pretty easy.

From: Iwander
Date: 14-Mar-19




Here's another little tip that I stumbled on. most sign shops that do vinyl lettering have all kinds of scrap vinyl material. I just got handed enough to last me a lifetime including some reflective material that shines when he hit it with a light.

From: PeteA
Date: 14-Mar-19




As mentioned by Therifleman vinyl sign material works really well. I got a bunch of scrapes bight yellow, red, gray for free and a sample of bright pink i'm still cutting wraps from. I must have cut 3-4 dozen so far. I use a similar matte cutter as JimPic. FYI the vinyl sign material actually works better then commercial wraps.

From: dean
Date: 14-Mar-19




Much of the plastics and hot melts that are deemed for archery use are actually produced along with other commercial similar stuff by larger manufacturers, probably from China.

From: aromakr Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 14-Mar-19




I could buy a rattle can of paint for $6 or under and have two dozen painted by the time you have cut the vinyl, and have enough left over to do 2-3 more dozen. no seam little fuss. and the right paint gives a good gluing surface,

Bob

From: monkeyball
Date: 14-Mar-19




Is that what you use Bob?

Good Shooting->->->->Craig

From: RC
Date: 14-Mar-19




Who in their right mind would spray paint on an arrow?

From: monkeyball
Date: 14-Mar-19




Oh Bobbbbbbbbbbbb?

Good Shooting->->->->Craig

From: Sawtooth (Original) Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 14-Mar-19




I use spray paint. Simple and cheap. It looks good and there is no limit to the creAtivity. Fletching tape sticks to it Well. Problem solved. I should add that I shoot wood. :)

From: aromakr Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 14-Mar-19




No I don't use spray, I dip and have for 60 years +, but I have the dip tanks and paint.

Bob

From: monkeyball
Date: 14-Mar-19




Ok then Bob. I can wrap and fletch a dozen carbons before your dips are ready to crest.

Your turn.........

Good Shooting->->->->Craig

From: JimPic
Date: 15-Mar-19




Touche', Craig ??

From: monkeyball
Date: 15-Mar-19




Just saying.......

Good Shooting->->->->Craig

From: B.T.
Date: 15-Mar-19




I like the spray paint idea. It’s real crown paint..how do you get a clean line at the cardboard edges?

From: Rough Run
Date: 15-Mar-19




Don't use cardboard - use painters tape. Crisp and clean. Spray with Rustoleum Universal Bonding Primer after cleaning, white base gives brightness to the cap color, and dries quickly. Very easy, works on any material.

From: bigdaddy
Date: 15-Mar-19




I buy vinyl outdoor tape from tapeplanet.com and cut to length. They have quite a few colors to choose from.

From: RC
Date: 15-Mar-19




I tried paint once, but the feathers slide all around on it when trying to glue them on.

From: B.T.
Date: 15-Mar-19




So painters tape and a cardboard box spraybooth..prime white and then spray color..what glue? I use Fletchtight Platinum now?

From: PECO
Date: 15-Mar-19




At most I do a dozen arrows a year. I just buy a pack of wraps and I'm done. I have found the wraps from Sagittarius Archery are very good, but options are limited compared to Onestringer.

From: NY Yankee
Date: 15-Mar-19




I was curious too so I bought a roll of white (I like white fletching) stuff from walmart. Cut a strip and applied it to an arrow shaft for an experiment. It went on easily and looked good but my measuring and cutting needed serious help. Then I realized that was a shaft I didnt want wrap on. Think it took over an hour to peel that stuff off one shaft. I thought it was good stuff. Just make sure you REALLY want to keep wraps on. Clean the shaft well first too.

From: RC
Date: 15-Mar-19




Heat them with a hair dryer or heat gun and they peel right off.

From: monkeyball
Date: 15-Mar-19




Whether your rolling your own or purchasing them, wraps need to be handled with "clean hands" prior to fletch being put on. And that is glue or tape. It's all about the prep work.

And like Roy said above, a dryer will be your best friend when you want to reflect.

Sure does beat soaking them in a can of turpentine, huh paint guys?

Good Shooting->->->->Craig

From: monkeyball
Date: 15-Mar-19




reflect,refletch,wretch,stinking spellcheck.......

From: RC
Date: 15-Mar-19




Sure blame it on spell check:)

LOL

From: monkeyball
Date: 15-Mar-19




Probably the paint fumes.......

From: RC
Date: 15-Mar-19




That's another reason I don't use paint on arrows.

From: old buck
Date: 15-Mar-19




Interesting thread.

I'm an old sign painter whom uses vinyl 99.9% of the time now but have neither wrapped or painted my arrows. I just like the look of natural turkey on a wood or wood imitation shaft.

I will however next season be putting a small wrap of reflective just below the nock for high visibility help finding an arrow after dark.

From: K Cummings
Date: 16-Mar-19

K Cummings's embedded Photo



I’ve posted this before but for the new guys I’ve been using a new arrow wrap system call "Techno-Wrapp” for a number of years now. It utilizes a bar code that is read by an app on my smart phone.

The app tells me exact arrow speed, trajectory, kinetic energy, momentum, and precise location (within 3 square feet).

When I shoot a deer, I use the GPS on my phone, combined with the bar code reader, to lead me directly to my arrow. If the arrow stays in the deer, it leads me directly to the deer. Same when I'm shooting a 3D course. In the extremely rare event that I miss a target, the app leads me directly to my arrow.

At about $20 a piece, the aren’t cheap but they pay for themselves in short order.

KPC

PS: Full disclosure - I was involved in the development of the ”Techno- Wrapp.” This post is for informational purposes only and should not be construed as an advertisement or an offer to purchase.

From: RC
Date: 16-Mar-19




How long do the batteries last?

I got the rechargeable wraps, stick em in my quiver and they charge right back up.

Got tired of replacing the other batteries.

From: K Cummings
Date: 16-Mar-19




RC:

You must have a different (probably less expensive) brand.

The only "battery" is in my phone.

The "Techno-Wrapps themselves require no battery. They work in conjunction with the GPS unit in my phone.

Don't ask me how, that's what my tech guys are for. In all honestly, I was just the idea man.

:)

KPC

From: RC
Date: 16-Mar-19




I don't mind the extra weight from the lithium batteries.

The wraps actually brought my arrow tune right in where it needed to be.

There is a laser option coming out next, which is used for a sight.

I'll never miss again if I buy that model:)

From: Shawn
Date: 16-Mar-19




The contact paper, shelf lining wraps have been done for 20 years. I was using that stiff back in 03 and 04. Look over on Trad Gang or even on here possibly in the search feature. Its been done a long time so nothing new or inventive about that article. Shawn

From: Sparky
Date: 16-Mar-19




I gettem $5 a dozen on ebay.

From: Rough Run
Date: 16-Mar-19




For B.T. - sorry, missed your question. I spray 2 coats of Minwax clear gloss over all the painted area after I crest. I always give at least 24 hours between coats. I don't use glue, I use Bohning fletch tape. Usually use a drop of NPV at front and back for security, never had a feather come loose.





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