Traditional Archery Discussions on the Leatherwall


Indoor barebow arrow ?

Messages posted to thread:
jk 22-Feb-19
Leigh 22-Feb-19
Therifleman 22-Feb-19
JRW 22-Feb-19
Jim 22-Feb-19
Leigh 22-Feb-19
Rick Barbee 22-Feb-19
Jon Stewart 22-Feb-19
JRW 22-Feb-19
2 bears 22-Feb-19
Rick Barbee 22-Feb-19
JRW 22-Feb-19
SB 22-Feb-19
DanaC 22-Feb-19
Rick Barbee 22-Feb-19
zetabow 23-Feb-19
zetabow 23-Feb-19
Longcurve 23-Feb-19
From: jk
Date: 22-Feb-19




Thinking of using fat X7 shafts for indoor barebow. 40# ilf.

Got a better idea?

From: Leigh
Date: 22-Feb-19




I don't shoot indoors so help me out. Why would your indoor arrows be different than your outdoor arrows?

From: Therifleman
Date: 22-Feb-19




The "linecutters" may gain you a point or two from time to time. Shooting an ILF you have a pretty wide range of tuning parameters and im sure you are aware that the larger diameter shafts will position the center of the arrow a bit further from the riser, thus making the arrow behave a bit stiffer dynamically. I'd say go for it and have fun.

From: JRW
Date: 22-Feb-19




Some people score better with fat arrows; some don't. For me, I cut more lines, but the fat arrows made precise aiming more cumbersome. My scores stayed the same. In the end, I went back to my skinny arrows.

From: Jim Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 22-Feb-19




Cause he’s looking for line cutters.

From: Leigh
Date: 22-Feb-19




Got it now.

From: Rick Barbee
Date: 22-Feb-19




The best scores I ever put on the board were with fat shafts (2514's).

My groups, and accuracy were the same on average as with my skinny carbon shafts, but the fat line cutters did make a positive difference in my scores.

Rick

From: Jon Stewart
Date: 22-Feb-19




Some tournaments have banned line cutters.

From: JRW
Date: 22-Feb-19




"Some tournaments have banned line cutters."

Yep. Anything World Archery or USA Archery sanctioned has an outer diameter limit of 23/64". NFAA's limit is 27/64".

From: 2 bears
Date: 22-Feb-19




got plenty of 2413's all the 25's have been traded off. >>>---->Ken

From: Rick Barbee
Date: 22-Feb-19




23/64 is pretty fat compared to the 16/64 (1/4") widely used these days, so I can see them getting a few lines the smaller shafts might not.

Rick

From: JRW
Date: 22-Feb-19




Rick,

"23/64 is pretty fat compared to the 16/64 (1/4") widely used these days, so I can see them getting a few lines the smaller shafts might not."

A few years ago I started making notes on my score cards of every time my VAPs (14 series if I recall) failed to cut a line. If memory serves, it ended up being 4-5 points every 300 round and a few more than that on the Vegas round. So the next year I switched to 23s.

My averages didn't change. I caught more lines, but found it not quite as easy aiming with the fat arrows.

That being said, for some folks fat arrows are great and add points to their score. There's only one way to find out. :)

From: SB
Date: 22-Feb-19




To me those FAT arrows seem like shooting telephone poles! I don't care for them at all.My shooting on targets has never been so precise that occasionally nicking a line with a fatter arrow would much matter!

From: DanaC
Date: 22-Feb-19




Steven, at higher levels of competition those occasional 'line lickers' *matter*. ;-)

Fat shafts are preferable indoors because crosswinds are not a factor. Outside, they can become a liability. (I get a chuckle seeing them on a 3D course.)

Different shooting organizations have different maximum allowable shaft diameter specifications, as was pointed out above.

There is a wide range of shafts available from Lancaster etc. but make sure you know what the rules specify for your specific league.

From: Rick Barbee
Date: 22-Feb-19




But Jason.

You're a much better shot than I am.

Where an extra 1/3 to 3/8 inch don't matter much to you, it can mean a whole lot for someone like me.

As far as the aiming thing goes, the fat shafts never bothered me, but I can see where they might. I always lollipopped the 5 ring on top of my point anyway. Wasn't to hard to line them up after that.

To be honest, if I were to get back into 20 yard indoor competition, I would likely just use the skinny arrows I am shooting now, but back in the day I liked them fat ones. 8^)

Rick

From: zetabow
Date: 23-Feb-19




Fat heavy arrows help if you shoot 3 under but many Stringwalkers keep their Field\3D arrows for indoors, skinny arrows can help with aiming, fat arrows with line cutters, just depends what you personally feel gives you the best scores.

From: zetabow
Date: 23-Feb-19




I'll add fat arrows are heavy enough to punish you for poor release, something to also consider.

From: Longcurve
Date: 23-Feb-19




Top scores can be shot with any arrow diameter really. It’s like Jason says, there are compromises with each. Make sure your setup is tuned well, your form is repeatable, and almost any quality arrow shaft will do just fine. At 40lbs I’d consider a 2312, Tank23, Maxima RZ.





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