From: jk
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Date: 22-Feb-19 |
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Thinking of using fat X7 shafts for indoor barebow. 40# ilf.
Got a better idea?
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From: Leigh
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Date: 22-Feb-19 |
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I don't shoot indoors so help me out. Why would your indoor arrows be different than your outdoor arrows?
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From: Therifleman
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Date: 22-Feb-19 |
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The "linecutters" may gain you a point or two from time to time. Shooting an ILF you have a pretty wide range of tuning parameters and im sure you are aware that the larger diameter shafts will position the center of the arrow a bit further from the riser, thus making the arrow behave a bit stiffer dynamically. I'd say go for it and have fun.
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From: JRW
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Date: 22-Feb-19 |
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Some people score better with fat arrows; some don't. For me, I cut more lines, but the fat arrows made precise aiming more cumbersome. My scores stayed the same. In the end, I went back to my skinny arrows.
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From: Jim
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Date: 22-Feb-19 |
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Cause he’s looking for line cutters.
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From: Leigh
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Date: 22-Feb-19 |
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Got it now.
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From: Rick Barbee
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Date: 22-Feb-19 |
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The best scores I ever put on the board were with fat shafts (2514's).
My groups, and accuracy were the same on average as with my skinny carbon shafts, but the fat line cutters did make a positive difference in my scores.
Rick
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From: Jon Stewart
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Date: 22-Feb-19 |
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Some tournaments have banned line cutters.
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From: JRW
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Date: 22-Feb-19 |
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"Some tournaments have banned line cutters."
Yep. Anything World Archery or USA Archery sanctioned has an outer diameter limit of 23/64". NFAA's limit is 27/64".
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From: 2 bears
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Date: 22-Feb-19 |
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got plenty of 2413's all the 25's have been traded off. >>>---->Ken
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From: Rick Barbee
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Date: 22-Feb-19 |
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23/64 is pretty fat compared to the 16/64 (1/4") widely used these days, so I can see them getting a few lines the smaller shafts might not.
Rick
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From: JRW
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Date: 22-Feb-19 |
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Rick,
"23/64 is pretty fat compared to the 16/64 (1/4") widely used these days, so I can see them getting a few lines the smaller shafts might not."
A few years ago I started making notes on my score cards of every time my VAPs (14 series if I recall) failed to cut a line. If memory serves, it ended up being 4-5 points every 300 round and a few more than that on the Vegas round. So the next year I switched to 23s.
My averages didn't change. I caught more lines, but found it not quite as easy aiming with the fat arrows.
That being said, for some folks fat arrows are great and add points to their score. There's only one way to find out. :)
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From: SB
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Date: 22-Feb-19 |
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To me those FAT arrows seem like shooting telephone poles! I don't care for them at all.My shooting on targets has never been so precise that occasionally nicking a line with a fatter arrow would much matter!
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From: DanaC
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Date: 22-Feb-19 |
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Steven, at higher levels of competition those occasional 'line lickers' *matter*. ;-)
Fat shafts are preferable indoors because crosswinds are not a factor. Outside, they can become a liability. (I get a chuckle seeing them on a 3D course.)
Different shooting organizations have different maximum allowable shaft diameter specifications, as was pointed out above.
There is a wide range of shafts available from Lancaster etc. but make sure you know what the rules specify for your specific league.
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From: Rick Barbee
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Date: 22-Feb-19 |
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But Jason.
You're a much better shot than I am.
Where an extra 1/3 to 3/8 inch don't matter much to you, it can mean a whole lot for someone like me.
As far as the aiming thing goes, the fat shafts never bothered me, but I can see where they might. I always lollipopped the 5 ring on top of my point anyway. Wasn't to hard to line them up after that.
To be honest, if I were to get back into 20 yard indoor competition, I would likely just use the skinny arrows I am shooting now, but back in the day I liked them fat ones. 8^)
Rick
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From: zetabow
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Date: 23-Feb-19 |
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Fat heavy arrows help if you shoot 3 under but many Stringwalkers keep their Field\3D arrows for indoors, skinny arrows can help with aiming, fat arrows with line cutters, just depends what you personally feel gives you the best scores.
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From: zetabow
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Date: 23-Feb-19 |
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I'll add fat arrows are heavy enough to punish you for poor release, something to also consider.
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From: Longcurve
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Date: 23-Feb-19 |
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Top scores can be shot with any arrow diameter really. It’s like Jason says, there are compromises with each. Make sure your setup is tuned well, your form is repeatable, and almost any quality arrow shaft will do just fine. At 40lbs I’d consider a 2312, Tank23, Maxima RZ.
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