In the Heavy Arrow, Light bow thread there was a lot of discussion about Ashby's reports vs conventional wisdom.

Stickbow is a pretty good sized community so I thought it would be interesting to see who has had a shot that broke through a shoulder or other heavy bone on a animal and still had a clean kill.

If so what was the animal, hit, draw weight of bow and arrow weight and setup.

I shoot heavy.

Have no kills that broke bone, that I know of. If I hit bone I made a bad shot and no amount of bone breaking is going to give it a good out come in 80+% of the cases.

I do try to take 1/4ing away shots.

Bowmania

.45/70

A couple of years ago I shot a nice doe at 15 yards. I hit her square in the shoulder blade and then completley through the knuckle on the other side. The broadhead was sticking through the skin. 57lb Allegheny Mtn. Recurve. 160grn Ace standard with a 75grn steel adaptor. Carbon arrows. I think the arrows were about 550grns. I'd have to check.

I've shattered numerous offside upper leg bones on whitetails (usually near the base of the shoulder blade) with 500-grain carbon arrows tipped with 125-grain Ace Standards. About 13% FOC for anyone who cares.

I shot a chipmunk once through both shoulders past thru 60# bow 500 gr

Cw what I posted on your other thread. I am a fan of heavy ! Heavy enough most guys think I am crazy.

I made a not so perfect shot this year on whitetail buck. Hit front of shoulder blade. broke off 1"x3" piece of bone ,thru the heart, cut off lower part of rib, broadhead tip just breaking hide. Buck went 35 yards

Toelke Pika 50 lbs @28". I draw 47-48 lbs. Shooting 29" Gold Tip classic 400 spine, 85 grain Stainless insert, 25 grain carbon oversert, 250 grain 3 blade VPA , 4" feathers.= 710 grains

Andyman beat me to it. I was going to be smart and say .300 Win mag.

Don't matter if heavy or light if your broad head is beyond sharp. Killers know that!

Sharp head on a light arrow on a lighter bow can go right through bone dependent on the shot.

68@29 Howatt Hunter with 30 inch XX75 2317 and 2 blade Eskimo.

Arrow is around 600 grains. Shot was about 7 yds from a tree at a 150lb field dressed whitetail buck.

Hit him a little forward but the arrow broke both shoulders with the head sticking out the off side.

Less than 40 yd dash and crash.

MP

Jimbob,

Your post reminded me of this. :)

Best bone breaker? Easy one.....a BAKER CLIMBING STAND!

Black Hunter Longbow 45@28 I draw 32, with a TenRings Fury string. GT 400 full length with 3 5in fletching. 200 gr VPA upfront. Shot was a little forward, went completely through the center of the shoulder and stuck in the offside shoulder of a whitetail doe. She made it about 80 yds.

Woods Walker..Amen on that brother!!

I haven’t shot a deer with it yet but I have a new setup for the upcoming season. I’m using the Easton Genesis 1820 shaft filled with antifreeze. ( water would freeze making the spine too stiff ). Steel Force Traditional single bevel 2- blade broadhead 300 grain. ( need as much weight on the front as you can get). I fletched them with three neon yellow 1 1/2” Bohnihg Mini- Blazer vanes. If properly tuned you really don’t need fletching but the bright yellow makes it much easier to see in flight. I lost a lot of speed with this arrow weight but easily got it back by replacing the B-50 string with a skinny fast - flight.

All of mine have been bone busters, but I've never hunted with less than 64#, and never less than 600 grain arrow weight, so there's that.

Deer bones aren't any big deal, but I've blown out both shoulders on some pretty large pigs (250# +) even with my lightest weight bow at 65#, and 600 grain arrows.

All of my arrows wind up somewhere between 12 to 18 (had a few at 20/21) percent FOC, but I normally shoot for (and get) 14 to 15 percent, but I run with what it gives me (within reason). Never found any difference in penetration on any of them where the FOC was concerned.

Rick

Whitworth Express Rifle in .375H&H magnum with 300 gr, Winchester Silvertips is the most reliable that I own.

12 gauge Hardened slugs.

How come guys shooting #85 modern compounds with 650 grain arrows tell me they get stopped by a deers shoulder knuckle? They are shooting way more energy than a longbow or recurve. Yes real muzzy cut on contact broadheads.

57# Black Widow PLX, 640 grain tapered cedar. It put a Wensel Woodsman through a Minnesota Black Bear shoulder blade, with a recovery under 40 yards.

Original poster needs to clarify if he meant the shoulder blade or the lower bone and or knuckle.

Not hard to shoot thru the shoulder blade with 40 plus pound bows.

https://www.grizzlystik.com/650-Challenge.aspx

Only once had to trail a deer hit in the scapula. A friend hit a doe at under 20 yards with his Mathews compound pulling 70#. The arrow was light and it did not make it through (as we later came to learn). As I recall the head was a Muzzy with the "bone buster" trocar tip. The doe bled heavy for about 150 yards. Then the trail dried up and it was a hands and knees thing, looking for droplets. After about 1/2 mile we abandoned the chase. Later that winter I was out behind the barn when out of the woods came a doe, limping heavy on her left front, the very shoulder that took the hit a few months earlier. This is how I surmised that the arrow did not make it through the scapula. The moral of the story? Light and fast does not cut it, a lesson they took to heart as the following year my friend anchored a massive wild boar (they live in Spain) with a heavy Silverflame broadhead. The total arrow was something north of 700 grains.

Shoot a hog that turned right as I was 1/2 way to release. Arrow entered a convenient spot and pushed through him and out his chest. He went about thirty yards and when we openned him up there was no arrow. Backtracked to were I was at the shot, then walked to where he was standing, about 15 yards in front of where he was when the arrow hit, at the base of a Cedar was my arrow. Buddy asked me what the **** poundage are you shooting. Big River recurve 60"-66#@27 3/8". 150 grain Snuffer head. Pig dead!!!

Oops @150# boar.

fdp those silvertips or corelokts will let you down even in a 375. i had one explode on an eland shoulder, ended up with one lung hit and a 2 mile jog in fading light across the kalahari to catch up and finish up. id have been better with 308 and a barnes or partition. just saying...

ive had a simmons stop cold on a buck shoulder. switched to grizzlies had one buried in a vertebrae so far that i need a block and hammer to get it out. same arrow weight same bow 49lb acs. 535gr arrow i didnt like the blood trails i got with grizzlies and switched to eskimos. completely broke off side leg on a bear 57lb bow 540gr arrow. thats my only test on bone. but i do believe that the sharpness i can get from the eskimo allowed me to have a bad miss neck hit turn into a quick kill on a buck.ymmv

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