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KODIAK MAGNUM...... PROS AND CONS

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FITTER 08-Jan-19
Slothfish 08-Jan-19
hunterjrg 08-Jan-19
Orion 08-Jan-19
Big Dog 08-Jan-19
bowjack 08-Jan-19
69 super kodiak 08-Jan-19
swampbowman 08-Jan-19
Knifeguy 08-Jan-19
mangonboat 08-Jan-19
Wolflord 08-Jan-19
Supernaut 08-Jan-19
Babbling Bob 08-Jan-19
boatbuilder 08-Jan-19
FITTER 08-Jan-19
Stix 08-Jan-19
George D. Stout 08-Jan-19
bowjack 08-Jan-19
SB 08-Jan-19
George D. Stout 08-Jan-19
Longcruise 08-Jan-19
George D. Stout 08-Jan-19
Osage Outlaw 08-Jan-19
4nolz@work 08-Jan-19
FITTER 08-Jan-19
Ken Williams 08-Jan-19
FITTER 08-Jan-19
George D. Stout 08-Jan-19
FITTER 08-Jan-19
Jon Stewart 08-Jan-19
Pdiddly 09-Jan-19
Muskrat 09-Jan-19
missed_again 09-Jan-19
South Farm 09-Jan-19
RymanCat 09-Jan-19
FITTER 09-Jan-19
Babbling Bob 09-Jan-19
camodave 09-Jan-19
FITTER 09-Jan-19
B.T. 09-Jan-19
camodave 09-Jan-19
George D. Stout 09-Jan-19
heydeerman 09-Jan-19
B.T. 09-Jan-19
FITTER 09-Jan-19
SB 09-Jan-19
B.T. 09-Jan-19
2 bears 10-Jan-19
Supernaut 10-Jan-19
adkarcher 10-Jan-19
Daven 10-Jan-19
bowjack 10-Jan-19
JamesV 10-Jan-19
South Farm 10-Jan-19
Jon Stewart 10-Jan-19
George D. Stout 10-Jan-19
FITTER 10-Jan-19
Bassman 10-Jan-19
FITTER 10-Jan-19
FITTER 10-Jan-19
Daven 10-Jan-19
FITTER 10-Jan-19
SB 10-Jan-19
casekiska 10-Jan-19
FITTER 10-Jan-19
Desperado 10-Jan-19
Sirius Black 11-Jan-19
B.T. 11-Jan-19
SB 11-Jan-19
SB 11-Jan-19
Tom McCool 12-Jan-19
FITTER 12-Jan-19
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bowjack 12-Jan-19
Babbling Bob 12-Jan-19
FITTER 12-Jan-19
bowjack 12-Jan-19
B.T. 12-Jan-19
SB 12-Jan-19
FITTER 12-Jan-19
Tom McCool 12-Jan-19
From: FITTER
Date: 08-Jan-19




Looking at possibly buying a birthyear (1969) Bear Kodiak Magnum. Have never shot one but they look interesting. Its a 48# bow and I my draw length is 27 5/8". Would love to hear opinions..... arrow likes and dislikes etc.... Thanks :)

From: Slothfish
Date: 08-Jan-19




It's my favorite bow. I have one at 45# @28", 53# at my 30" draw. Everyone told me I would hate it because I have a long draw, but it actually stacks RIGHT at my anchor point so it ended up being perfect. With a 27.5" draw, it should be absolutely perfect for you.

From: hunterjrg
Date: 08-Jan-19




I owned two of them. 30" draw for me also. Worst stacking bow I've shot. Never again

From: Orion Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 08-Jan-19




I dunno. I have a 28-inch draw or a little less, and I felt some stack on the one I owned as well as finger pinch. Maybe I'm more sensitive to both.

How you grip the string might have some affect. Three-under and you wouldn't feel the pinch as much, but short bows are more sensitive to 3-under holds than longer bows.

Can it work? Yes. Will it work? I dunno. Good luck.

From: Big Dog
Date: 08-Jan-19




Thumbs up! Regards

From: bowjack
Date: 08-Jan-19




I owned over 40 of them as I assembled a collection. To be honest I never shot or hunted with any of them very much. Longer bows always worked better for me. Had quite a few 69s and still have 4 from that year.

From: 69 super kodiak
Date: 08-Jan-19




I think you will like it. I too have a 1969 K mag. It is a 40#. and my draw length is 27 or less. No stack until 28, or more.

From: swampbowman
Date: 08-Jan-19




I struggled to shoot mine well ; too light and the short limbs weren't stable, but found that with a quiver and stabilizer attached I could shoot it with some accuracy.I hate stabilizers on a hunting bow. For me any bow under 56" is just tough to shoot well. Split finger does seem to fit the short bow better than my normal three under at my 27 1/2" draw.You might not have the problems with it I would but I think trying one before you buy would be a good idea.

From: Knifeguy
Date: 08-Jan-19




Go for it, one of my favorite bows. You can turn it around if you don’t like it and more than likely won’t lose a dime on it. Lance

From: mangonboat
Date: 08-Jan-19




K Mags are generally easy to find, easy to sell, they are nice to carry and fun to shoot. Not my favorite, but I've usually got one hanging around somewhere. That being said, a few years ago I decided I just had to get a 1969 "Blacktip" K Mag, got one and it was the least enjoyable K Mag I've had. not sure if it was the materials or just that bow, but it was a bit of a dog.

From: Wolflord
Date: 08-Jan-19




I had a new one and shot a 2-finger split draw at 29.5 inches with no problem.

From: Supernaut
Date: 08-Jan-19




My Kodiak Magnum is a 72' 45# @ 28". It is the first and only traditional bow I've owned, about a year now. I killed a 10 point with it this archery season. I draw just a little over 27" and have now problem with stacking or finger pinch, I shoot split finger. I shoot 500 spine Warrior carbon arrows and have had no issues. It is a fun bow to shoot even out to 80 yards which I do in target rounds.

From: Babbling Bob Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 08-Jan-19




Had a 48lb '62. It was a smooth shooting and comfortable bow. Liked it....a lot.

From: boatbuilder
Date: 08-Jan-19




Shot one my whole teenage and early 20's with a 29" draw with no problems bought one a couple of years ago and I didn't enjoy it much with arthritis in my fingers but still shot it well, but prefer the longer bows these days.

From: FITTER
Date: 08-Jan-19




Well..... see more Yays than nays so far.... guess thats a good thing. Yes its a '69 with the black tips.

From: Stix
Date: 08-Jan-19




I have shot a few, and they are a great shooting bow to 28". After that finger pinch was an issue for the guys with longer draw lengths. At 27 5/8, You will love it!

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 08-Jan-19




The KM does not stack at 28". Do a force draw and you will see. What you likely notice is a more acute string angle. I have shot 52" bows out to 70 yards and they will be accurate if you can hold them still. Some mass weight will help, but for hunting ranges they are great bows.

From: bowjack
Date: 08-Jan-19




Was waiting for you to come along George. Where's your video you have posted before of you shooting one at 40 yards.?

From: SB
Date: 08-Jan-19




I could never shoot one with my 29" draw. But for some reason they became more shootable for me when I had to switch to left- handed due to an injury. One of my late friends that was left- handed had one that I tried. Haven't been able to find a lefty in the years I prefer. I do have every year they were made in my collection ....all right-handers though!

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 08-Jan-19




From: Longcruise
Date: 08-Jan-19




Pro: it's short

Con: it's short

:^)

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 08-Jan-19




Here's a video of another 52" bow, the Browning Nomad Stalker. The shots I miss are me, not the bow.

From: Osage Outlaw
Date: 08-Jan-19




I love my early 60's Kmag. I killed 2 deer with it last year. I have a short draw and it fits me perfect. I'm looking for another one a few lbs lighter.

From: 4nolz@work
Date: 08-Jan-19




Pro:entry price,easily resold if desired

Con-subjective depending on percieved pinch or stack some people are sensitive.

It has a fairly high grip built into the riser

From: FITTER
Date: 08-Jan-19




Enjoyed the videos and the info that has been shared. Now to find out for sure if its streaked up....

From: Ken Williams
Date: 08-Jan-19




I had a beautiful ‘75 model K-mag. I just never warmed up to it with my 29” draw. My son loves it so I let him have it. He shoots it well.

Different strokes for different folks

From: FITTER
Date: 08-Jan-19




Hard decision as I love the Super Kodiak.....

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 08-Jan-19




You can have more than one bow. )

From: FITTER
Date: 08-Jan-19




I know and plan to..... but with three custom revolvers in process on the bench $$$ is stretched thin.... so for now one will suffice. Just trying to replace my '71 Super Kodiak that died a untimely death late last year ;)

From: Jon Stewart
Date: 08-Jan-19




I have a few because I got them cheap. To me they have finger pinch and they stack. My wife hunts with one but she has a 26" draw and she can shoot good with hers.

From: Pdiddly
Date: 09-Jan-19




I had every Kmag from 1961-1968.

I like the 1962 and 1963 the best. I was not too impressed with the 1968.

If I had a choice of 52" bows I would take an early Nomad Stalker.

From: Muskrat
Date: 09-Jan-19




I've owned two, beautiful to look at, very compact to handle, and compared to longer bows, everything else being equal, much more difficult to shoot consistently. Obviously a shorter draw length helps a lot. With my 28" draw stacking and finger pinch were an issue.

From: missed_again
Date: 09-Jan-19




I have a '67 (birth year) KMag, 45#@28. No stack or pinch for me shooting split, and it is hands down the most comfortable grip of any bow I've owned. Not super speedy but I killed my first trad deer with it. Really fun to shoot.

From: South Farm
Date: 09-Jan-19




No cons here, love them Magnums! Mine's a 67.

From: RymanCat
Date: 09-Jan-19




This was the first Bear bow I had purchased and shot one for few years when I was young. I found that it shot well and handle nice in the bush for me. I have a 29 draw found no stack or finger pinch. Its like anything you need to learn how to shoot a bow and use whatever is in your hand I found out much later in life.

Sometimes people make things up in their head rather than work it out in their head and shoot it.

I got mine I was 14 yo mother took me up to a sporting goods store a big chain near us in 1967. unfortunately I didn't know anything about bows then and stored in a corner in bedroom and the limb twisted. I sold the bow like that and had wished for years I had kept. I didn't know how to take a twist out and a guy I knew said he would buy the bow and fix it. I sold and he said he fixed it and it shot fine again. Funny thing was it was shootin ok just string popped off at times.

When I got older I bought more K Mags even had a couple Zebras that were sweet. Great bows no cons ever.

I also killed my 1rst deer a doe with one as well as rabbits and squirrels.

I think with fat fingers the stacks are not usually felt like thin fingers maybe?

From: FITTER
Date: 09-Jan-19




Got this in a email this morning.....

"Kodiak Mag is in very nice condition. There is a little crazing in the finish on the back of the bow at the fade outs and a little crazing in the finish on the riser. No holes or stress cracks."

Not sure not sure......

From: Babbling Bob Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 09-Jan-19




A '62 was my first bow I ever owned too, and I bought it new. Liked it about as much as a young man could love his first dog, car, or horse, and maybe more. Used to sit on the floor furnace on cold days before school and just look at the rosewood in it and I tried to take it out to shoot it across the road at some railroad tracks everyday I could.

As George said, can own more than one bow, so I bought a target bow in '63 so I would have what I needed for all types of shooting. However, in '62, that little bow went to a lot of field archery events and it would fly aluminums with nibs down to the 80 with a whole lot of authority. I was mighty proud of that bow too. That K Mag was one of my favorites.......bar none.

That fantastic little bow started a bunch of great memories and it formed an impression so deep that I went back to those rosewood Bears of its same era for selecting the bows I have now on my rack. Was lucky enough to find a '62 Kodiak almost as good looking, but it wasn't bought with hard to get Chirstmas season working money as that K Mag was. That little bow cost a whole whopping $65.

From: camodave
Date: 09-Jan-19




I draw 30 inches and one of my favourite bows is a 1962 Kodiak Magnum. There may be a downside to the KM but I have never found one.

DDave

From: FITTER
Date: 09-Jan-19




Thanks fellas..... emailed him this morning to ask about the crazing..... havent heard anything back :(

From: B.T.
Date: 09-Jan-19




Bear sold a lot of those..most not used much. Hold out for a nice one, they come up regularly.

From: camodave
Date: 09-Jan-19




Simple solution for crazing. Take off the finish with 80 grit sandpaper. Refinish with Tru-oil. Not rocket science.

DDave

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 09-Jan-19




That was one of their most popular bows from the year (1961) it was introduced. They made thousands of them every month and many were used yearly for many years. Most were hung up when the compound became popular and that wasn't until near the mid 70's. Had it not cost more than the Grizzly, it likely would have been Bear's number one selling hunting bow through the 60's.

From: heydeerman Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 09-Jan-19




I have had one for about a year and was shooting it with 7 inch brace height. I found it very touchy and gave up on it. I was talking to a friend who shoots a super Mag and he told me to go to 8 1/2 inches and try it. It “magically” turned into a sweet shooting, quiet bow. Still a little touchy and seems to magnify a not so good release but a solid bow for sure.

From: B.T.
Date: 09-Jan-19




heydeerman has it right. I go 8-8 1/2” on mine. The short bows force good form, but you can shoot it sitting on the ground.

From: FITTER
Date: 09-Jan-19




Good to know.... thank you. Things arent looking up for the KM..... guess the guys business is so good he doesnt need to sell a bow....

From: SB
Date: 09-Jan-19




What are these things going for theses days anyway? I was looking on the auction site and the ones I found have absurd prices on them with no bids! In my heavy collecting days they were 150.00 bows if they were REALLY nice!

From: B.T.
Date: 09-Jan-19




The old Bears in very good condition are getting hard to find. They are getting expensive too. 15 years ago $150 for a real good one, was a real good price.

From: 2 bears
Date: 10-Jan-19




They do not work for me. With your draw it SHOULD be O.K. >>>>-----> Ken

From: Supernaut
Date: 10-Jan-19




I bought my early 70's (I'm pretty sure 1972) K Mag last winter for $150, it is in beautiful condition and shoots great.

From: adkarcher Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 10-Jan-19




I just bought one for 120.00 shipped. Not hardly a mark on the bow. Slight twist in one limb that was easily fixed.

From: Daven
Date: 10-Jan-19




The 1962 was a year that had the Bolivian riser, as Doug mentioned extra mass makes these bows a bit more stable. Tough to find '62 they did not make a ton of early Kmags.

From: bowjack
Date: 10-Jan-19




I had 5 1962 Kodiak Magnums at one point. Sold all but one in 2012 when people were looking for a fifty year old bow to hunt with that year.

From: JamesV
Date: 10-Jan-19




The K mag is the perfect bow to copy for a young adult or kid's bow. Scale down the riser and adjust the poundage. I like to redesign the riser for a lower wrist. A lot of kid's bows look like kid's bow but the K mag looks and shoots like an adult bow, scaled down to fit a younger archer perfectly.

James

From: South Farm
Date: 10-Jan-19




I agree with holding out for a nice one as there's a ton of 'em out there...no need to "settle" early.

From: Jon Stewart
Date: 10-Jan-19




One of the magnums I picked up was a 34# factory camo made in the 60's. Wife shoots it real well. I gave $10.00 for it and it came with the 4 arrow screw on bow quiver.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 10-Jan-19




The bow market is down...yet. Just because someone is asking a high amount for a starting bid, doesn't mean anyone is paying that. Most do that to keep from having a reserve that costs extra on Ebay. A high starting bid is just that and doesn't cost extra.

I bought a bow two weeks ago that had a starting bid of $110.00 and had run seven days twice. It also said 'or best offer' so I offered $60.00, figuring they would just turn it down or make a counter-offer higher. To my surprise they accepted the $60.00. Sometimes that happens, but usually you get a counter offer somewhat above what you offered them.

Be patient, bows aren't bring much money nowadays unless there is something special about them.

From: FITTER
Date: 10-Jan-19




Well...... Ill be passing on this particular KM. Nice bow but not worth $225.

From: Bassman Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 10-Jan-19




Fitter shoot it . You will know. I had 3 of them.I am with Pdiddly. My pick was a 54 inch early Nomad Browning.Still have it.But the k mag are very nice also . Personal taste.

From: FITTER
Date: 10-Jan-19




Well I would but for the price I think I can do much better. I know when your talking about 50-60 yr old bows they aren't perfect but I expect the price to fall inline with condition.

From: FITTER
Date: 10-Jan-19




Well..... I just bought a like new '62 Kmag and am on cloud 9!!!!

From: Daven
Date: 10-Jan-19




Sure you did. 8^)>

From: FITTER
Date: 10-Jan-19




:)

From: SB
Date: 10-Jan-19




For your next assignment,buy a like new '61! That'll keep you busy! I found one about ten years ago!

From: casekiska
Date: 10-Jan-19




In the summer of 1964 I bought a Kodiak Magnum and on 9-30 that year killed my first deer with that bow. 45#, RH, homemade bow quiver that carried 5 arrows, camo cloth bow sleeves, arrows were PO Cedar tipped with 4-blade Bear Razorheads. That was my first ever deer and I recall most details of that hunt vividly. This kill proved to be the seminal opiate for what turned out to be a lifelong addiction.

From: FITTER
Date: 10-Jan-19




Now to figure out arrows for it ;)

From: Desperado
Date: 10-Jan-19




I agree with hunterjrg....Kodiak Magnum is the worst bow I ever shot....Jumped all over in my hand at release.Just my experience.

From: Sirius Black
Date: 11-Jan-19




I have a 69 kmag on consignment at The Footed Shaft, in Rochester, MN. Excellent condition with new B55 Flemish string. I'm shooting a longbow right now. It should be on their website catalog.

From: B.T.
Date: 11-Jan-19




After reading this thread I strung up my K Mag..she shoots great with a 29” draw.

From: SB
Date: 11-Jan-19




Sirious....Bonus!...it's a black capped 69 to boot! Take those dead sheep off of the string and it should be a rocket!

From: SB
Date: 11-Jan-19




P.S. ....if it was a lefty I'd have scarfed it long ago! I don't live far from the shop

From: Tom McCool
Date: 12-Jan-19

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Here you go SB. 1969 black tips,overlays on green glass lefty :)

From: FITTER
Date: 12-Jan-19




Just picked this one up from Nrthernrebel05..... purty little '62 Kmag with a 45# draw weight :)

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From: FITTER
Date: 12-Jan-19




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From: bowjack
Date: 12-Jan-19




Refinished? Looks like a nice job!

From: Babbling Bob Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 12-Jan-19




Whew doggies Fitter, you sure got a good one.

From: FITTER
Date: 12-Jan-19




Yes he did a fine job!!

From: bowjack
Date: 12-Jan-19




With that rosewood probably my favorite year.

From: B.T.
Date: 12-Jan-19




Nice!

From: SB
Date: 12-Jan-19




Tom you're killing me!! Damn fine bow Fitter!

From: FITTER
Date: 12-Jan-19




Thank you Sir

From: Tom McCool
Date: 12-Jan-19




Sorry SB. That was mean of me and I should not have been so insensitive...

...did I mention it was it was Tigerwood, 45# and mint condition? :)

Fitter, congrats! That's a work of art!





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