I put a Shur-Grip on mine and it improved even more for me.

My guess is your tune is better. Glad you like your bow.

I shoot my Black Hunter very well. There are bows I have been better with, but not by a lot. I do agree the grip contributes to a consistent hand placement and that's a big part of being accurate imo.

Any bow will shoot all of its arrows nearly in the same hole. The determining factor is the person pulling the string.

I would go with Deerhunt on this one; Frank (fdp) has a point, but being tuned makes a big difference.

Even if you get there by accident!

I shoot my Black hunter more accurately than any of my bows. To me it feels better in the hand and I have confidence with it, which makes a lot of difference IMHO. But, it still has to tuned and the shooter needs to have a good and consistent form.

What fdp said. One bow is not inherently accurate versus another. That said, if a bow fits you, you will shoot it well if your form is decent. So yes....it may be more accurate for you, but that is in you and how that bow fits you.

"purely instinctive", ah OK...

So Stix if we would fashion blinders under your eyes so you can not see the arrow wonder how your accuracy would be effected? I'd guess drastically get worse.

Everyone has to "POINT" the arrow and see it in your secondary vision in order to hit something.

Can we let that one go for just ONE thread???

LMSAO

Nice shooting Stix. I am hearing lots of good things about these Galaxy bows.

Can’t some of you just let other folks have a thread without interjecting your archery orthodoxy into it ?

There are plenty of other threads to do it on .

"Can’t some of you just let other folks have a thread without interjecting your archery orthodoxy into it ?"

Amen KW..Amen..

It's just reality! The sooner one accepts that the better they will become. It is not a detriment to aim.

Stix....my mentor Jim Ploen said that if you aren't using an accessory sight you are shooting "instinctively". Whether you choose to recognize that you are using all your sense to that successfully or not is up to you.

Stix.....I wasn't trying to correct you. Just kind of trying to alleviate the instinctive/not instinctive thing.

Stix, can those bows handle a 31+ draw? I'd like to get one.

Car54 My black hunter longbow has the bamboo core. I draw 31.5". It does stack some but I've pulled bows that were way worse passed 29"

I wonder if bamboo cores really make that big of a difference. What kind of material property would change that when the fiberglass is doing the bulk of the work anyways? I suspect that if there were a double blind test set up with Maple and bamboo core limbs, few would be able to tell any difference, and nodbody say definitively that one is better. The mystique of bamboo and it's rep is probably responsible for most of the "smoothness".

The difference would be in the physical weight of the bamboo laminations. There is typically more difference in the physical properties of different sets of laminations (regardless of the type of wood/grass) then there is between the actual wood/grass.

Meaning you are just as likely to get a set of Maple lamiantions that are smooth and fast as you are anything else.

I own two and I draw 31" Both are bamboo They both draw smoothly but one set is 30lb the other 35.I have another set of limbs that's fourty.still shoot smoothly.I wonder about the bamboo over maple thing myself but after fifty years and way over 100 bows l believe there is a felt difference as the only other short bow I can draw comfortably are my kanati longbows that have boo also.I don't think people truly realize how bad most bows stack in till you experience it for yourself.so I guess to sum up yes I'm a believer in bamboo cores...

I should add the only other short bow I can draw comfortably are my two red wing hunters. My advise to any long draw archer is to stay with 64 inch and up bows and drop your weight by ten pounds.

Herb... with all due respect if one has to drop bow weight 10 pounds, then there is an issue with the force/draw curve of the bow that is not being addressed.

Over the years I have done force draw curves on literally 100's of bows, of all different makes, and all different side view profiles, and all different limb materials.

There are few that actually stack (a disproportionate in crease in draw weight in a particular range). There are some, but they are few and far between.

I guess I did not explain myself very clearly and it's about the general problem of starting w a bow at a measured weight at twenty eight inches.you never know where your going to wind up at 31.you assume to add about ten pounds at your draw and get pleasantly surprised if it's only six or so.that was my point about the ten pound allowance.Its just a guessong game in till you get the bow in your hands.unfortunately there are few places you can go and shoot them before you buy them.I have been disappointed by more than I have been surprised by.then there ilf stuff that you have to calculate lenghths and draw weights and it becomes pretty complicated .Add getting old and weak into the the equation and it becomes a bit frustrating...

Thanks everybody, have a great weekend!!

Got it Herb. That makes sense and don't know why I didn't get that from the statement.

>>>"Can’t some of you just let other folks have a thread without interjecting your archery orthodoxy into it ?"<<<

Not they can't, Ken. There's a certain faction here that would argue a red rock is blue until the cows come home...and a few that wanna be the next internet archery legend. :^)

Evidently so Darrin but it’s getting real old.

Well, getting back to where this thing started.

The first time I saw a Black Hunter was when my buddy handed his new "longbow" to me at an indoor range. In my mind I was cringing (this ugly thing ain't no longbow), but I took it and stepped up to the 15yd line. My hand slid into the perfect grip.

I had ten 1916's in my back quiver. I nocked one and stared intently at the yellow center of the target (my way of saying pure instinctive). First arrow at 3:00 about 1-1/2" from center. By the time I shot the last of my ten arrows everyone was watching.

The best group I ever shot in my life! Nine arrows in a bundle, five touching, one busted nock, one flyer 3" from the center of the group. I handed the bow back to my friend and said "Holy $hit!"

Within a month I had my own Black Hunter longbow from Twig Archery. I have shot it VERY well ever since. There is definately something about these bows that makes them so accurate. It has to be the grip. It just fits. As I've said on here before, it's a bow that is easy to shoot well.

Oh yes these bows do shoot very, very well.

To those of you that have both bamboo and maple limbs how can you tell which is which? Are they marked differently? Supposedly I bought a set of bamboo limbs used, but they look exactly like my two sets of maple limbs, even down to the color of lams. Can one see the nodes on the side of lams of the bamboo ones.

I ordered another bow with two sets of bamboo limbs so we’ll see when it gets here.

To answer the original post...I shoot mine as well if not better than any bow I have ever had. It's all I use now.

OK, to cut the through the clutter regarding a subject for which there will never be agreement here, and back to the original topic of the Black Hunter/Galaxy Ember....may we go back to that??? I own the Ember longbow. I have had a gazillion customs (well that may be a tad too many but somewhere near 100), and I love the Ember. I am currently doing some rehab with Jim Casto Jr.'s TP regimen and got the Ember with 30# limbs to work through the process. The limbs are marked 30#@28. They are dead on according to my scale. I have changed my anchor and have extended my draw length a lot. The Ember draws 35#@31"...my new draw length. I say that is pretty darn good, huh?

Kelly i can take a glow bracelet hang it on a target on a moonless night were the only thing seen is the glow bracelet and shoot @15,20,25,30,35 go to target all arrows touching or in glow bracelet. Ill shoot with your blinders when you fashion them up.

If U don’t want a bow that’s fast, smooth n has one hell of a grip don’t get one! Dang sure won’t break the bank!

They are functionally excellent bows, if you are accurate, they are accurate. Everything I killed this season fell to the Ember because I rarely shoot anything else. What mine has done for/to me is to make me unwilling to spend a lot of money and wait time on a custom bow, to the point that I'm considering selling my Schafer and putting that money somewhere else.

Thanks GF, but it didn't take long for it to get started back up did it.

You guys tell a person what they are actually doing and seeing and you are a thousand miles away, I wonder how you do that.

If I want to call my style of shooting instinctive then that is what it is.

Stix, yes repeatable hand, anchor placement and draw length with instinctive or any type of shooting will do it. I am setting up my arrow length to place the BOP to where it just touches my first finger so I can get an equal draw each time, it really makes a difference.

To be a good shooter it requires practice of course, but you must have things set up to try and duplicate what you are doing each time, of course hunting, things will change, but if you can get yourself to closely do everything the same each time then you can vary slightly and still get your prize.

I Picked up a 70" Galaxy longbow to help me get thru some health issues that are affecting my ability to draw my usual hunting bows. '

The dern thing is only 37lbs at my draw and I can't believe how it casts an arrow. I am genuinely impressed. I took it hunting one day this season with no second thoughts whatsoever about being under bowed. Smooth as butter and stable as any bow I've ever owned. It has a substantial riser and relatively wide limbs. Whoever designed it came up with a winner for sure.

70" Galaxy longbow?

The design more than likely came from several US made custom bows. Take the best feature from different bows and copy it. The riser is VERY similar to a Blacktail. The Chinese are masters of reverse engineering.

I hear only good things about them. Are they the same bow with different names? Black hunter / Galaxy Ember

I bought one from a guy in Utah on one of the trad sites. $110.00, I thought what the heck for that money can't go wrong. I have several Assenheimers, a couple Toelkes and several other brands. This bow with the recurve limbs 45# @ 28 will shoot as good as any. It has become my hunting bow shooting 560 grain cedars or 600 grain carbons , same performance. JMHO

I bought one from a guy in Utah on one of the trad sites. $110.00, I thought what the heck for that money can't go wrong. I have several Assenheimers, a couple Toelkes and several other brands. This bow with the recurve limbs 45# @ 28 will shoot as good as any. It has become my hunting bow shooting 560 grain cedars or 600 grain carbons , same performance. JMHO

v-b..yes.

The 70" bow mentioned above by Pointer is most likely the Galaxy "Black Ridge" one pc longbow sold by Lancaster. As the Black Hunter and Galaxy Ember 3 pc is 60" or at least that's all I've seen them come in.

Does anyone know if they are measuring the length from string nock to string nock or tip to tip when they are calling it a 60" bow? DANNY

I don't know but all of mine take a 57" non stretch type string. Brace on mine are right at 7.5" and brass nock point is 1/2" above square, I nock under.

I really like the looks of the Black Ridge Hybrid and the One- piece Black Ridge Recurve, both look nice and both are under $200.

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