From: hawkeye in PA
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Date: 20-Nov-18 |
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Last evening I was removing eight bullet points on some used Jazz aluminum 1816's for my grandson. Something I've done a lot of over the years. It only took a little bit of heat and they pulled right out. Now the caution part 3 of them had liquid in them that ignited from the torch and burned for a couple of seconds. Fortunately I was doing this on a metal tray and it caused no damage, but could of been very serious. But still a first in 50 years. Bought the shafts used at a bow shoot this summer.
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From: stickhunter
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Date: 20-Nov-18 |
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Thanks for the heads up Hawkeye!!,
I might add another caution. When buying used carbon shafts\arrows the inserts\points might be installed with epoxy or super glue...I’ve carefull removed a ton of these with success but just about when the epoxy reaches the temp. That you can pull the insert a cloud of vapor rises and can cause severe eye irritation not to mention inhaling these vapors.
I started running a fan to blow this vapor away from me when heating these inserts.
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From: Dry Bones
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Date: 20-Nov-18 |
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Guessing the "liquid" was melted excess glue that caught fire? Flaming liquids can cause lots of problems. Glad no issues occurred.
-Bones
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From: hawkeye in PA
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Date: 20-Nov-18 |
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As easy as the points removed I'm not sure what it was. Didn't act like the hot melt glues that I've used in the past and diffently wasn't epoxy.
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From: Mpdh
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Date: 20-Nov-18 |
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Hot melt will flame up if you get it hot enough.
MP
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From: BATMAN
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Date: 20-Nov-18 |
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Good ideas about the point removal. Fan to blow away the vapors and maybe even eye protection?? BE SAFE!
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From: Codjigger
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Date: 20-Nov-18 |
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When i was a fireman i saw a lot of incidents of fires caused by flammable liquids and such, many glues give of toxic gases when heated to excess. As for using a fan if you are not venting the fumes outside you are just diluting them in the air captured within your house. Sandy
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From: hawkeye in PA
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Date: 20-Nov-18 |
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While fitting the bullet points back into the cut shafts I found three points that was under sized. Maybe a 1513 or something. What ignited must have been what was used to shim them. They all passed the spin test before cutting them.
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From: HARRY CARRY
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Date: 20-Nov-18 |
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Thanks for the heads-up, Jeff. You know I use mostly second-hand alums, so this info will be kept in my noggin for future buys and arrow preps.
I do know that I've found plenty of undersized glue-ins on many shafts, with, I guess, simply excess glue being used to stabilize the point.
Hold on to those small points. They may fit those alums Harry uses, or some of the oddballs I have here that could be turned into good arrows for him....
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From: gunr
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Date: 20-Nov-18 |
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I recently aquired some used X7 Eclipse arrows that I used a heat gun to remove some mismatched tips. I have a dozen points coming and a Bohning glue stick. I've never used hot glue before... Wouldn't a heat gun be safer than a torch ? And easier on the aluminum shaft ? Thanks for your advice , gunr
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From: hawkeye in PA
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Date: 21-Nov-18 |
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Never tried the heat gun, good question. Using some sort of tray or plate will catch the glue drips instead of marring the bench surface. It's also easy to drop a hot point.
Harry the points are going back into the same shafts. They were way to long. He sure had some nice shots at SS.
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From: hawkeye in PA
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Date: 21-Nov-18 |
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Never tried the heat gun, good question. Using some sort of tray or plate will catch the glue drips instead of marring the bench surface. It's also easy to drop a hot point.
Harry the points are going back into the same shafts. They were way to long. He sure had some nice shots at SS.
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From: Pdiddly
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Date: 21-Nov-18 |
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I used to use a torch but felt the flame was far too hot, so had a high skin burn potential and was hard on the finish of the arrows and the really hot flame sometimes burned the glue rather than melt it.
I bought an alcohol lamp...plenty of heat to melt anything without it burning, does not affect arrow finish and smaller flame so safer and easier to use.
I fill it with methyl hydrate. Bought it online for less than $10.
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From: M60gunner
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Date: 21-Nov-18 |
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I am another alcohol lamp user. Mine’s really old now. I used a candle for years as well. We were cautioned years ago about how a hot propane torch can overheat some aluminum alloys. I use Denatured alcohol in my lamp, I use it for cleaning up when Acetone isn’t necessary. Get wicks from 3 Rivers.
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