From: Jarhead
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Date: 08-Nov-18 |
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Anybody else use a file for knives?
I feel like I traveled the globe working on a method to sharpen my broadheads. Stones, diamond stones, ceramics, Lansky, electric... you name it - I've tried them... in every combination. Press hard... don't press hard... push, pull, drag... One thing I kept coming back to - was my metal file... straight to my leather belt... basically ANYTHING other than that file-to-belt just wasn't helping... and in most cases was harmful. The sad thing is I basically spent the entire process rejecting the results I was getting from "just the file." Basically I was stuck on "it just can't be."
Last night - I took my file to a buck knife... as absurd as that sounds... and hit it 10,8,6,4,2,2,2,2,1,1,1,1 (per side) and then light 1,1,1 a few times... and went to my leather belt for 20 passes. The hair on my arm has never left so easily. I have finally pressed the "i believe button" and am done with other methods/utensils/steps.
Anybody else ever dare touch their nice knives with a file?
File, belt, hunt.
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From: Mountain Man
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Date: 08-Nov-18 |
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Depends on how dull the knife is Some times a fine stone then stropping
But yes I file knife blades Years ago at a garage sale I bought a box of fine jewelers files all different grits and shapes and angles they work great! That said on knives I always polish the blade after using any form of sharping Stropping smooths it all out and keeps the scratches to a minimum
I sharpen broadheads with a bastard file or 8mm chainsaw file
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From: Draven
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Date: 08-Nov-18 |
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I use the file on knives when I want to drastically want to change the blade geometry. On the other hand I never let a knife to get dull - I am using a sharpening steel after every use to prevent this.
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From: raghorn
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Date: 08-Nov-18 |
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I always have used a file. Although some blades are hard enough that the file doesn't want to bite. Then I have to use a stone.
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From: Draven
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Date: 08-Nov-18 |
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I use the file on knives when I want to drastically change the blade geometry. On the other hand I never let a knife to get dull - I am using a sharpening steel after every use to prevent this.
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From: White Falcon
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Date: 08-Nov-18 |
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File on a knife is like Lemon in a beer. :( :(. Your knife your choice. I just keep them sharp like said above.
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From: Osage Outlaw
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Date: 08-Nov-18 |
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I have no problem getting knives and broadheads extremely sharp with a Lansky kit. I wouldn't use a file on my knives.
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From: Jarhead
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Date: 08-Nov-18 |
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I'm interested to see how it works on game. Will likely be using them this weekend. To your point White Falcon... I started with an old knife... met with success... and then progressed "up" my knife chain from there.
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From: Sam Dunham
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Date: 08-Nov-18 |
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W-4 steel has to be seriously annealed and then shaped. Then re- torch to orange color and the tempered 400 degrees for 15 minutes.
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From: 2 bears
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Date: 08-Nov-18 |
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If a file does much cutting on a knife blade it is not a very hard blade. Some of the best blades are nearly as hard as a file. I like a knife to be 58 to 60 RC. That is much harder than broadheads. Harder to sharpen but holds an edge much longer.>>>----> ken
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From: N. Y. Yankee
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Date: 08-Nov-18 |
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Happily, knives are replaceable. Use a file if you need to.
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From: Jarhead
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Date: 08-Nov-18 |
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Agree... I didn't get the "feel" that I was taking off a ton of metal during the process... some but definitely not like sharpening my VPA/Zwickeys…
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From: dean
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Date: 08-Nov-18 |
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My Leatherman has a file on it. The problem is you cannot sharpen the Leatherman knife with the Leatherman file. I have used a file on a couple of knifes. Some knifes are too hard for a file, and the file shines up real nice in the attempt.
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From: Frisky
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Date: 08-Nov-18 |
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Never use a file on a knife. Never! Get a small diamond hone. Use it for an initial edge and that's all. After that, keep it steeled. Just a steel is all I use after I have the edge profile I want.
Joe
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From: ButchMo
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Date: 08-Nov-18 |
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Jarhead, No reason in removing metal when it isn't needed. Once it's sharp, using a steel or strop will keep it that way.
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From: Jarhead
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Date: 08-Nov-18 |
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Got it.
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From: Billy Shipp
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Date: 08-Nov-18 |
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I would never use a file on a knife. I've seen lots of not so old knives worn down to nothing from being filed on.
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From: badger
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Date: 08-Nov-18 |
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The only way I can get a knife shaving sharp is to use a good file. Very little metal comes off. I use nothing but a file on my draw knives. I agree with maintaining them with steel.
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From: hawkeye in PA
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Date: 08-Nov-18 |
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I've wore enough knives out and during that process I've use a file when the blade taper needed cut done again.
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From: oscar11
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Date: 08-Nov-18 |
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I have no problem using a file if I have to to set a bevel on a knife blade.
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From: yahooty
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Date: 08-Nov-18 |
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I say do whatever it takes to get your knives sharp. I have a few knives that I can get sharp and others that I've struggled with. For larger blades I purchased a Ken Onion Work Sharp. It works great and I can do touch-up with a steel between sharpening.
Some folks have a knack, skills, patience, whatever. I don't so I've probably spent a small fortune (well maybe I could have bought a good used bow) on different sharpeners. If you found something that works for you, I'd say do it. JMHO
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From: Geezer
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Date: 08-Nov-18 |
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I'm really old, sharpened many a blade. Now I use only ceramic rods with a guide. However, on a cheap working knife, I have used those plastic thingys with carbide cutters adjusted for a particular angle. Works great for fillet knives and the little hatched we all sometimes carry in the woods. But never a file. Just seems wrong. But like stated above, do what works for you.
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From: badger
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Date: 08-Nov-18 |
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On filet knives and pocket knives I use stones most of the Time.
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From: rallison
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Date: 08-Nov-18 |
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I had a folding knife at work that I could NOT sharpen, and sharpening is something I don't have a problem with.
As a last resort, I broke out a disc grinder with a fine sanding disc...a couple low pressure swipes per side, and that baby was SHARP! Easy-peesey. Lol
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From: fdp
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Date: 08-Nov-18 |
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I use 'em if they need it. Won't hurt a thing if you do it like you have some sense.
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From: Tlhbow
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Date: 08-Nov-18 |
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My dad run them across the grinder as needed .always cutting hoses , belts, stripping wires scraping grease stuff like that. I get one of his out occasionally and Cary it. It's your knife file away and get another one when you want to.
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From: DanaC
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Date: 09-Nov-18 |
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Grinders (and files) will take a lot of life off a knife.
Better to use a coarse stone if it needs a new edge, then finer stones to finish. Touch up on the finest stone that works. Touch up *often.*
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From: George Tsoukalas
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Date: 09-Nov-18 |
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No, I use stones on good knives. I start with a medium stone and then go to fine one. I try to keep the same angle. Jawge
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From: N. Y. Yankee
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Date: 09-Nov-18 |
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My Dad would use a bench grinder to "sharpen" his knives. That's how I always knew what to buy him for Father's day. I would buy him his favorite Old Timer pocket knife and he would "sharpen" it during the year. By Father's day, it would be a steel toothpick and I would get him another. It was a tradition.
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From: olddogrib
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Date: 09-Nov-18 |
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No, nor would I use a sledgehammer to drive roofing nails.....
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From: fdp
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Date: 09-Nov-18 |
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It's very clear that there is a great deal of misunderstanding about files, what they can be used for, and how to use them.
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From: Tuckerdog
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Date: 09-Nov-18 |
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Stones. Keep them sharp. Steel or ceramic (old wiring conduit) most of the time or India FB6 stone. Coarser grit if bought in a yard sale and need attention.
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From: Bowguy
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Date: 10-Nov-18 |
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I’d never use a file either, a diamond stone is all you need and like others have said keep touching em up and you won’t have an issue. Now if you don’t a diamond will still do the trick it’ll just take a few secs longer
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