Traditional Archery Discussions on the Leatherwall


Grip preferences

Messages posted to thread:
DanaC 07-Nov-18
DanaC 07-Nov-18
Liquid Tension 07-Nov-18
Nrthernrebel05 07-Nov-18
Tradarcher4fun 07-Nov-18
Codjigger 07-Nov-18
DanaC 07-Nov-18
George D. Stout 07-Nov-18
monkeyball 07-Nov-18
Clydebow 07-Nov-18
JusPassin 07-Nov-18
crookedstix 07-Nov-18
DanaC 07-Nov-18
DarrinG 07-Nov-18
Sam Dunham 07-Nov-18
GF 07-Nov-18
Pdiddly 07-Nov-18
JLBSparks 07-Nov-18
Babbling Bob 08-Nov-18
Thumper 08-Nov-18
Live2hunt 08-Nov-18
Jarhead 08-Nov-18
Yellow Dog 08-Nov-18
Geezer 08-Nov-18
mangonboat 09-Nov-18
Linecutter 09-Nov-18
Red Beastmaster 10-Nov-18
DanaC 10-Nov-18
fdp 10-Nov-18
Muddyboots 10-Nov-18
From: DanaC
Date: 07-Nov-18




Thinking about different parts of the shooting process, the second thing on my list is 'relaxed grip on the bow.'

('Stance is #1 if anyone cares.)

Some bows, the ones that fit me well, make the grip easy. Just pick the bow up, don;t grip too tight, and shoot.

Other bows feel 'wrong'. Grip too big, too small, too low etc. I have to really work at making that bow sit in my hand well.

I have a mid-70's Howatt Hunter, great looking bow, but the grip is too big for my medium-sized hand. Have to think about it a lot before ever nocking an arrow.

Another bow, the grip is the right size but very low-wrist. Again, I have to do some adjustment before I can shoot it well.

It's not that we can not adjust, I think that - having to - adjust may throw us out of a smooth shooting process.

All of which is the long way of saying, a bow my hand 'likes' is easier to shoot.

Anybody else find this so?

From: DanaC
Date: 07-Nov-18




By way of qualifying the above, I should note that I have a bit of arthritis in my hands, and my bow hand has had multiple surgeries from a break some years back.

A younger person, or someone with stronger hands, might not 'notice' the grip so much. But I wonder if it still affects their shooting?

From: Liquid Tension
Date: 07-Nov-18




A beginner needs to find proper hand placement on the Bale. I’d bet more than 85% of recurve shooters have too much hand on the bow. Rod Jenkins demonstrates the proper way to find the correct grip by noticing @ the Shot the bow jumps forward. If the bow does not react this way some part of your grip is wrong.

The bow moving forward tells you your grip is right ensuring your not grabbing or torquing the bow. For a lot of guys who have always had too much hand on the bow the proper grip feels extremely weak but in fact if they stick with it it’s actually stronger.

For me, Mike Palmers standard medium grip fit me perfectly & any different new bow I would have it copied. However any bow grip can learn to be shot properly just like any draw cycle.

From: Nrthernrebel05
Date: 07-Nov-18




I try to only grip it just tight enough as to keep it in my hand at release. I compare it to holding an egg

From: Tradarcher4fun
Date: 07-Nov-18




Grip is everything to me and is my #1 criteria when selecting a bow. The grip needs to fit like a glove and not like a 2x4. The low grips on my R/D longbows work for me. Not too much hand on the grip.

From: Codjigger
Date: 07-Nov-18




The small grip on my Black Hunter long bows is my ideal.

Sandy

From: DanaC
Date: 07-Nov-18




In the past I would have taken a rasp to a too-large grip, and might do that on a fairly new bow. But a mid-70's model has collectors' value and I'd hate to ruin that. Someday the bow will end up in the 'right' hands ;-)

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 07-Nov-18




How many years have some of us been telling you that "fit" is the number one priority with any bow. It trumps speed by a large margin, yet people look at speed first...check the threads for that. This is about fit, which is what makes you shoot well. And I know, others will say otherwise...that's how it goes.

From: monkeyball
Date: 07-Nov-18

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I work best with a low profile, especially with a recurve.

If I was to order another longbow, it would have a dished grip. I shot a Robertson Purist with a grip like that and it was really nice.

Good Shooting->->->->Craig

From: Clydebow
Date: 07-Nov-18




I try to get a low grip on all my bows.

From: JusPassin Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 07-Nov-18




Definitely go for low grip. Puts the pressure on the palm and not the web of the hand.

From: crookedstix
Date: 07-Nov-18




Low wrist, and a death grip on it. I figure a shooting machine holds it even tighter than I do, and those things always send arrows to the same place. I actually think it's possible to have a firm grip without introducing torque.

From: DanaC
Date: 07-Nov-18




Since I need to shoot as straight wrist as possible, a high but unobtrusive grip suits me best.

This is a very subjective subject ;-)

From: DarrinG
Date: 07-Nov-18




Grip means ALOT to me as I have medium sized hands. I've had a couple really good bows (quality-wise) that I just could never shoot very well because the grip was just too thick and bulky for my hand. Could fit someone with bigger hands well probably but didn't for me. Having a smaller hands and the size (thick/slim) of the riser's grip plays more of a role for me than the low/high part of it.

From: Sam Dunham Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 07-Nov-18




Inside the lifeline and repeatable, Or, however you want.

From: GF
Date: 07-Nov-18




My hand-span is right at 8”. Size 8 shoe, 6 1/2 in a hockey skate. Not a Big Dude by any stretch.

But I have a used custom that was built for a much larger person and I actually think I shoot that one pretty well. Then the‘ 67 Thunderbird has a pretty massive grop, and it seems to shoot extremely well for me also. Frankly, the slimmer grip of the RDR is more comfortable, but the proof is in poking holes, I guess...

From: Pdiddly
Date: 07-Nov-18




Low to medium grip and I like to have a firm grip on the bow...works better for me.

From: JLBSparks
Date: 07-Nov-18




Low grip, "bird", ring, and pinky fingers rolled under. Like a fist with thumb and index finger barely touching.

-Joe

From: Babbling Bob Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 08-Nov-18




Thought when I bought a new rosewood target bow in 63 with a big high grip with a thumb rest, that from then on, all my bows I would buy in the future would have that type grip. Wrong. What I have liked the best through the years for just ordinary recurves is the round medium feel grip without a thumb rest. Like the 62 Bears with a good amount of wood in the palm, as they just feel real good, like a hunting bow should. It's what feels good for whatever particular bow you shoot is about all that matters for a grip. Also some manuafacturers have ruined great feeling bows with a change in the grip in my opinion, such as some of the K Mags later made which had a slight variation in their grip from the original '61's and '62's. That's why it's good to feel a bow and/or shoot it before you buy. Especially if you're buying an old recurve.

From: Thumper
Date: 08-Nov-18




I like narrow dished grips on my longbows about 2 1/8" deep. Or straight, or slight locator, i don't care. Long as it aint round like a broomstick.

As for recurves, I like em low and plain. No crazy bear claw or horn thumbrests. Just a low grip. RER Xr bows are perfect IMO.

Only grip I hate and can't deal with is a grip with finger grooves or anything with a high grip. I hate Bear recurves. Yall go ahead and get the tar and feathers ready...

From: Live2hunt
Date: 08-Nov-18




This is kind of like asking if you like a size 10 or size 12 shoe, isn't it?

From: Jarhead
Date: 08-Nov-18




I watched a video of a guy shooting his bow with wicked accuracy... his opinion? "FIRM GRIP! IT HAS to be a firm grip." I tried that... arrows flew like crap.

I saw another guy shooting arrows with laser accuracy... "super light grip on my bow..." I tried that... bow got noisy... arrows flew terrible.

I shoot with an Asbell type grip... with "Medium" pressure. Not sure if there's ONE right way... just the best way for you and that bow.

From: Yellow Dog
Date: 08-Nov-18




I’m a Tall Tines fan, love the way they shoot and Brian’s attention to detail is outstanding. The last bow I ordered from him I decided to try his low checkered grip, all my previous risers had his standard grip. What a difference that made, as much as I liked his standard grip his low grip is perfect for me. For me it turned a great shooting bow into a super shooting bow......

From: Geezer
Date: 08-Nov-18




A low grip, like in a regular longbow that is not dished, requires more pressure on the palm. A palm grip as opposed to the thumb and forefinger grip on recurves, create less draw length, if that's important to you. My recurve draw length is 28 3/8,_but my recurve draw length is 28. Because a straight Longview grip requires your bow hand to bend outward at the wrist. Plus, most people can't shoot that non-curved longbow, grip without bending your elbow just a tad to prevent arm slap. It takes more muscle to draw a bow with the loss of support from a locked bow arm. Maybe.

From: mangonboat
Date: 09-Nov-18




Sometimes I grip a bow with my left hand, sometimes with my right hand. Sometimes I forget what I'm doing or what bow I've picked up and grip it with the wrong hand. Sometimes I switch hands, sometimes I put the arrow on the other side of the bow and fire away. I'ts complicated.

From: Linecutter
Date: 09-Nov-18




Bow gripp is an individualize thing as to, what we want to/can shoot. I have a friend who has won IBO Indoor and Outdoor Longbow Championships. Actually helped him learn to shoot when he got started shooting and he started his shooting on traditional gear. He cannot for love nor money shoot a recurve style grip, to where he feels comfortable with them. He is also so particular he can only shoot longbow grips made like the manufacture's when he first started traditional, he is that pickey He is making bows now "trying" to copy that grip for himself. I have another friend who can shoot anything recurve, longbow, selfbow, and switch between bows on the same coarse. I have watched him out shoot others with there own bow, no mtter what the style. Helped him learn to shoot also. He has won no major campionships because he has never been interested to even try. Of the two of them he is the better shot. So it sure wasn't the teacher. The point of all of this diatribe being: Some of us can be so pickey on grip style, we become fixated on it, thinking I can only shoot my best using that grip, and others are so flexable to them it is just another bow, whats the big deal. Most of us are somewhere in between. DANNY

From: Red Beastmaster
Date: 10-Nov-18




If it doesn't fit take a rasp to it. I file grips that are too big. I wrap electrical tape around grips that are too small. Cover it up with a Suregrip and shoot better than before.

Instead of fighting a grip, make it be what you want.

From: DanaC
Date: 10-Nov-18




Red, I agree up to a point. I'd hate to ruin the 'collectors value' of a forty year old bow. Druther trade for something that works better for me.

From: fdp
Date: 10-Nov-18




Although it has little to do with comfort, or fit, the reason that the majority of folks have major problems with bow grips is that they don't really understand how the bow, arrow, hand, should be aligned when they draw the bow to begin with. They don't understand the draw/force line and how to ensure that they are in line with it.

Now, like I said, being able to do that doesn't chnage the "comfort" aspect, but it makes a world of difference in the "shootability" department.

From: Muddyboots
Date: 10-Nov-18




I like a high grip with a light hold. I find I shoot best when my wrist/bow hand is closely in line with my forearm. I can tell from all the pictures of bows with low grips or grips that look like broom handles I am in the minority!





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