From: Carolinabob on iphon
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Date: 05-Nov-18 |
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Does anyone still go to the great expense about $1000 (shafts in lots of 100 grain scale, spiner tool, arrow straightner, crester, feather burner,and tip taper tool of making their own precise arrows
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From: yahooty
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Date: 05-Nov-18 |
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Sure. It's fun.
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From: Andy Man
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Date: 05-Nov-18 |
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I make mine in batches of 3-4 Doz
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From: Jim
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Date: 05-Nov-18 |
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I’ve been buying mine from Paul Jalon at Elite Arrows. I got tired of the cost of raw shafting plus the shipping they bang you with.
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From: rraming
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Date: 05-Nov-18 |
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I do only because I have everything - ha!
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From: Ken Williams
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Date: 05-Nov-18 |
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Andy, out of a dozen arrows, how many do you expect to get that don’t fly as well as the best ones ?
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From: BATMAN
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Date: 05-Nov-18 |
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You don't HAVE to buy a thousand! Go to a reputable dealer and the shafts should be easy. Building them from scratch is for the people who like to do so. BLESSED BE! PS? Unless You are at the builder's elbow, You MIGHT not get exactly what You wanted??
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From: two4hooking
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Date: 05-Nov-18 |
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Spend as little as you want. You think the indians spent $1000 (Bucks) Ha Ha...
I just bought wood shafts for $1.66 each delivered or you can go primitive.
I paint mine with Rustoleum from the hardware store...
Spend as much as you want.
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From: 2 bears
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Date: 05-Nov-18 |
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I built all my tools and process feathers, so the only expense is the shafts and finish. It is a great pass time and you can make very good arrows if you pay attention to details.>>>----> Ken
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From: N. Y. Yankee
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Date: 05-Nov-18 |
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I don't, but yes, many do. The more precise you make your arrows, the better you can tune them and you will get that much better performance. I usually settle for "good enough" but that's just me. As said, you COULD just buy 12 premium hand matched shafts and build them yourself.
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From: M60gunner
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Date: 05-Nov-18 |
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I have a collection of tools so making my own isn’t an issue. I been at it since the early 70’s. As for matched shafts I have a few doz. Those are for hunting, every arrow spines and weighs the same. For 3D and just shooting if they are matched with 5# of spine and 5 grains of weight I am happy. At Trad ranges that’s good enough. Now if I was competitive and shooting long ranges like 80 yards I would be more anal. Are woods all I shoot? No, I like aluminum and carbon. Each has its place in my quiver on any given day.
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From: Nemophilist
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Date: 05-Nov-18 |
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I've been making my own wood arrows since 1988. I don't remember how much I spent on all the equipment because I bought most of the equipment a long time ago, and some of it I made myself. Sometimes I make them plain and sometimes fancy ( spliced feathers, double crowns, marbled crowns, lots of cresting, etc. ) but I'm precise how I make them. Specially getting them straight and making sure the moisture content in the shaft is between 7% to 10%. You don't have to get into a ton of money to make your own arrows, but it is nice to have all the equipment. I enjoy making my own shafts sometimes, but now days I mostly buy the shafts.
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From: Therifleman
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Date: 05-Nov-18 |
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I get my cedars from Wapiti. Top quality for sure. I find them to make very shootable arrows and I don't have a ton of $ invested.
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From: Scoop
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Date: 05-Nov-18 |
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Made my first cedar arrow in about 1964 and I have a lot more than $1,000 in inventory, feathers, broadheads, shafts, and equipment. It is simple for me. I quit drinking and the bars 30 years ago and put that money into bows and quivers and arrow making things. That was one of the smarter things I've ever done. Amortize it out, and it is a cheap hobby compared to snowmobiles, four-wheelers, a pack string, diesel trucks, and boy toys I could have spent the money on. And the big plus, besides still being married to the first wife, when not making a lot of arrows and messing with them, I'm outside shooting them or finding an excuse to go hunting or stump shooting or just flinging arrows with the daughters and grandkids. To me as a growing old man, life doesn't get much better than that and it is cheap therapy. Oh, by the way, I generally make average to crappy arrows but they still fly pretty well and break just as good as the expensive ones!
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From: Andy Man
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Date: 05-Nov-18 |
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Ken Williams;
I get raw shafts form Sherwood or Wapitti
they come matched with better tolerances that I can shoot rare that one is not up to snuff
very rare
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From: Longcruise
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Date: 05-Nov-18 |
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If you just want to make arrows, the only tools you need are a fletcher and taper tool. Not a huge investment. You can't count the shaft cost because no matter if you make arrows or buy them you pay for shafts.
At the price of finished arrows you will be on the plus side after two sets of a dozen.
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From: Jon Stewart
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Date: 05-Nov-18 |
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My stash of knapping rock costs more than that and if I am lucking I get one good point out of ten. It is a hobby , like making arrows.
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From: dnovo
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Date: 05-Nov-18 |
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I've acquired all the tools over a number of years. I've been making my own wood arrows since 1980. It's a very pleasant hobby and satisfying to make a nice set of matched arrows. I make and donate 5 or 6 dozen every year. They shoot as well as any arrows I've had
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From: Ken Williams
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Date: 05-Nov-18 |
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Thanks Andy. I have made 3 dozen and got about 2 arrows in each dozen that flew poorly compared to the rest. When I buy more, I will buy from the suppliers you mentioned.
Ken
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From: Ken Williams
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Date: 05-Nov-18 |
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Thanks Andy. I have made 3 dozen and got about 2 arrows in each dozen that flew poorly compared to the rest. When I buy more, I will buy from the suppliers you mentioned.
Ken
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From: trad47
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Date: 05-Nov-18 |
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Wapiti tapered cedars are nice. Never been disappointed with them. I order full length and cut to my preferred length and taper with a Woodchuck. Not a hell of a lot of money spent either.
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From: Rigs
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Date: 05-Nov-18 |
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Love to build wood arrows...almost as much as I love to build my own bows...
Happy hunting, Jason
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From: N. Y. Yankee
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Date: 06-Nov-18 |
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People build arrows because it's a hobby they like to do. Like building model ships or aircraft, you can be real basic or you can get as fussy as you want. Beauty of it is, it's all up to you.
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From: lefty4
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Date: 06-Nov-18 |
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It's a labor of love for most that do it.
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From: Eric Krewson
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Date: 06-Nov-18 |
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Years ago I was fortunate to have some very serious turkey hunting friends who saved wings for me. In my best year I collected 72 wings, sent them off to be ground on the halves then traded the feathers for shafts.
My trade rate at the time was 100 hand picked full length wild turkey feathers for 3 dozen shafts. I had a lot of takers and amassed just about a lifetime supply of shafting.
My wing suppliers died or moved on but I still have 600+ or so feathers I hold in reserve to go with my dwindling supply of shafts.
For the last 20 years my arrows have cost me very little, point and nock cost only.
I have amassed a variety of arrow making tools over the years with my lazy susan fletching table of mostly used Bitzes being the best.
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From: George Tsoukalas
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Date: 06-Nov-18 |
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I make my own shafts bu hand planing or harvest them from nature as shoots. More on my site. Jawge
http://traditionalarchery101.com
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From: John Horvers
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Date: 06-Nov-18 |
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Have always made my own. Buy tapered cedar shafts from Wapiti and have never been disappointed with the quality.
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From: Eric Krewson
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Date: 06-Nov-18 |
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I had a router shaft machine but couldn't get good material to run through it. If I bought a primo Doug Fir 4x48 board for $6 at Lowes I would get 13 shafts from it, of which I might have spines from 30 to 65 from the same board.
For my level of shooting commercial well matched shafts is the only way to go.
I do make a few cane arrows, that fly surprisingly well.
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From: Jon Stewart
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Date: 06-Nov-18 |
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Check with Terry at the Footed Shaft. He picked up a large quantity of Rose City cedars on a buy out. I bought around 60 shafts from him and they were very straight and within a few pound of each other on the spine tester.
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From: Sailor
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Date: 06-Nov-18 |
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I have a router doweler and have experienced some of the problem that Eric mentioned but I just sand down the shafts that are too stiff for my bows. The majority of the shafts I dowel I can use, the too weak I can use for may grandsons. I have also found that using poplar I get much more consistent spine from a board than doug fir.
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From: Pointer
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Date: 06-Nov-18 |
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Not really because I don't shoot wood much anymore. If I get that nostalgic feeling I'll pay a little extra to but some matched shafts and make them up.
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From: Jimmy Blackmon
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Date: 06-Nov-18 |
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The guys who shoot field archery seriously with LB and wood still buy them by the 100s and match them with very little tolerance. I know that's what Dana Chatoo and Larry Yien did for years. 10 grains matters when shooting long-distance. I've bought them by the dozen and had as much as 12# difference in spine. It all depends on who is spine testing them and how careful they are to get it right.
I have had good luck with Lost Nation. Larry seems to take pride in getting them matched.
I have pieces of dozens all over my basement, so this year I am deer hunting with all of them. So far I've used two and they did a nice job. Logan and I had a good 8 pointer between us this morning. He was running circles sniffing for does, but never gave us a shot. I've got a nice cedar shaft with his name on it. ;-)
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From: Longcruise
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Date: 06-Nov-18 |
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"I have also found that using poplar I get much more consistent spine from a board than doug fir."
I have found the same thing. They are plenty tough too.
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From: grizz
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Date: 06-Nov-18 |
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I'll second Lost Nation. Larry and Janice sell only quality shafts and the finest people to deal with you'll ever find.
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From: SB
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Date: 06-Nov-18 |
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Been making them since the late 50's and STILL don't have a thousand bucks invested. You can make most all tools needed,and I never worried about grain matching. Never had an issue killing game with any of them either!
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From: Stumpkiller
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Date: 06-Nov-18 |
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I taper my Douglas fir shafts the last 9" down to 5/16" with a Bowyer's Edge but I cheat and buy die-cut fletchings.
Still have about 120 shafts from the last two batches or raw (P.O. Cedar & D. fir).
I have 14 different bows I shoot and maybe four different arrow spines to use among them. If I don't have four dozen arrows available for any given bow I get nervous.
I stump with the same shafts I hunt with and there is attrition. Rarely get to re-use shafts that have killed deer. Though occasionally they pass through and can be reused.
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From: Nemah
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Date: 07-Nov-18 |
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I made my first arrows when I was 10 years old after drooling at the Bear Archery catalogs......we had very little money, and my dads' philosophy was, "If you can't afford it, make it yourself". I still make all my arrows, and have several hundred in my shop. I love Port Orford Cedar......the tradition, the romance, and the fragrance. I also make my own shafts on my router table ( which I made myself) usually of old growth Doug Fir, Spruce, or Yellow Cedar. We're blessed to have several great lumber stores nearby where quality wood is always available. I love the look of real turkey feathers and process them myself....the barred imitations looks so phoney.....they make me gag! I bought two sets of carbon shafts once, fletched them up and gave them a try, but they have no soul, no spirit, so now I only shoot them at stumps, hoping they'll ricochet off into the forest, never to be found. Several of them are stuck high up on old snags, unreachable except by birds, some here in Washington State, a few in SE Idaho. I still have 6 more to loose. Some of the arrows in my shop are 20-30 years old, made from shafts I bought from Glenn St. Charles, and have never been shot. They were made for the heavy bows of my youth, bows I can no longer pull. Why so many arrows? I have over 40 bows. I sometimes find an old quiver full of arrows, a real treasure in this day and age. I love to bring the old wooden arrows back to life, new paint, new fletching, new nocks and points. I always shoot them a few times and then return them to their restored quiver for all to see. I just have a love affair with wooden arrows. Richard
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From: Thor
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Date: 07-Nov-18 |
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Well said Richard!
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From: Jimmy Blackmon
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Date: 07-Nov-18 |
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Eric - you may not have bought $1000 in shafts but you have $600 worth of Bitzenburgers on that Lazy Susan ;-)
Love that set up.
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From: Longcruise
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Date: 07-Nov-18 |
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I started using a JoJan multifletcher and love it. Takes some fiddling to adjust but far from formidable.
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From: Bassman
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Date: 07-Nov-18 |
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I make them from scratch for my self bows with wild turkey feathers, and napped points, and different shoots i pick in the woods. Very time consuming, and many do not turn out the way i would like. For recurves I just shoot carbon arrows.
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From: Aeronut
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Date: 09-Nov-18 |
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I have the machines to make my own shafts. Poplar, hickory, Maple, etc.
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