so I hear this Hole burning thing all the time and they say they do it without any ref points and even aim before the draw the Bow.

If you are shooting a Bow and Arrow the Bow arm being extended is a reference point and actually an anchor.

If you aim and never see the arrow then why would this not work with a Rifle?

I mean let's say a Buck jumps up and stops at 50 yards and you are a "Hole Burner" and you just put your finger on the Rifle trigger before you even raise up the Rifle and you can shoot the Buck from the Hip rifleman style and actually if you did not shoot your foot off you may have come within 6 feet of the Deer? lol

Please do not put your finger on the Rifle till you are ready to shoot in real life but let me ask you this;

If you shoot a Rifle do you use the sights? lol did you aim the rifle or just Burn a Hole in the Target? lol

Did you get a cheek weld, forearm grip and then use the sights and aim and then put your finger on the trigger?

You are doing the same thing with a Bow and Arrow and your basic form has to be there unless you are just pulling the string back with your fingers and flipping it at the Deer?

So did you aim with the Rifle before you even raised it? lol

No, you raised it up after seeing the Deer and got it in the hold and aimed, then pulled the trigger.

OK, for the hole burners,,you cannot pull the trigger before you aim OK?

And yes, you are focused on the spot when you draw the Bow and yes, you are lining up the arrow with your bow hand and arm because it cannot be done and reach full draw with any kind of consistency any other way.

Focusing on a spot within a spot is done with your whole body and your eyes and your reference points using a Bow and Arrow unless of course, you just flip the arrow at the target.

I don't think that you understand the concept of burning a hole as you draw the bow. The steadier the focus, the easier it is to see the relationship of the arrow to the target, no holding time at anchor is needed if you have drawn the bow properly to begin with. This is two contentious threads at the same time, may I suggest adding a bit of fiber to your diet.

Yeah....that whole "burning a hole" thing don't work at all for me. I draw the bow and then aim it.

I burnt a hole in my car seat one time when I accidentally bumped "on"...on the spotlight. The smoke told me something was amiss.

I think archers who use the term "Burning A Hole" are speaking in a metaphorical manner whereby what they truly wish to convey is that their visual focus on the spot they intend to hit is so intense that the possibility of their concentration being distracted by anything else just simply doesn't exist and it is "in that" that too them?...nothing else does exist...including their arrow annnnnd?...

While their conscious mind is fully consumed and entirely preoccupied by burning that hole?...their subconscious is busy checking all the boxes of what is their deeply ingrained shot sequence...(safely locked away and kept secret from the conscious mind)...which is most assuredly the result of extreme amounts of daily practice as while their conscious mind is entirely consumed "burning that hole"?...their sub-conscious is incredibly busy multi-tasking everything from grip management too monitoring draw, form and alignment where as they come too anchor it feels as though they are pulling the string through the center of their very own soul which is in dead alignment with the burning hole and in turn?...greenlights the loose as they pull through the shot.

did I say that out loud? LOL!

Yep, some folks don't have their sequence ingrained well enough, so they have do things one step at a time and then aim last. They gotta do what works for them.

dean LOL!

here we go with the Kiss principle and the Jokes,,I like jokes,,like burning holes lol,,super heroes..

Some people just never tire of telling others their way is wrong.

Burn a hole then plant the arrow point in the smoke ring and release.If you do that, you will never miss the burning hole. The game will also be partially cooked. >>>----> Ken

Some cannot believe instinctive shooting work cause it doesn't for them. Shoot whatever way work and stop with the threads trying to ridicule what you don't understand n everyone would get along better and maybe even shoot better with no one confusing them.

LOL,,the point is that burning holes is wrongly attributed to aiming. One might concentrate on a spot but pulling the trigger too early is a TP nightmare waiting to happen and a short drawing thing coming to a town near you.

I have a magic invisible glass tube that arcs straight to the target. Once the arrow gets in that tube it has no where to go except where I am shooting. You guys are just jealous that you don't have a magic glass tube.

"Burn a hole" is a verbal slap on the back of beginner's head to keep the mental focus on the task at hand.

Some folks can paint without the lines and numbers. ;)

Jinks X2

watch some Jeff Kavanough vidieos and how he describes instinctive shooting or try to replicate his shots with a 1,2,3....method

to each his own

Hey Dean, need a picture of that method?

Is that just one big Bong to target? lol

It's a spot that is really a speck to concentrate on within the smallest spot in the desired spot to hit in the center of the best spot on the target where you want the arrow to go. TThat burning thing....It's all about spots.

It's a spot that is really a speck to concentrate on within the smallest spot in the desired spot to hit in the center of the best spot on the target where you want the arrow to go. TThat burning thing....It's all about spots.

Matt Diiion just burned holes with his eyes, just before the 45 LC spoke. In any shooting sports there are individual tricks the practioiners use to make their shots. Work for some not for others. I understand the intense focus-burning comment. Spotlighting for burning holes, well that’s a new one for me. We used carbide lamps for fox hunting at night, never could focus one.

What is the KISS method?

KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID

Or

Keep it super simple

The original was Keep It Simple (you) Stupid!

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