From: Convert
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Date: 22-Sep-18 |
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Good morning to all. So I am a union Mason and use my right/draw hand all day long trowling ect. During to this I have almost zero felling in my draw fingers. I'm strong and. Draw a heavy draw with no prob and good form untill recently. My hand has been getting much worse hurt all night while trying to sleep and so on Well last night I decided to try my old trigger release from my speed bow days and it worked great even tighing up my groups. Will this so how damage my recurve and long bow? I'm not fussed what others think about it not being traditional (although I would argue it's very traditional to over come a problem) I'm just concerned I might damage my bows due to a super quick release or something like that. Note I'm very new to traditional hunting/shooting. So this perhaps is a rookie question but I am a rookie leaner our sport. Thanks in advance to all that comment... also this is my hunting bow as of now a bear grizzly #50. Also any information on this bow would be awesome I aquired it in a trade for a nice buck mount. Thanks to all that comment. "Convert" Joe d
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From: Jim Casto Jr
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Date: 22-Sep-18 |
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Back several hunting seasons ago I suffered a hand injury and couldn't draw with my fingers. I got one of those trigger-type releases and hunted with it that fall--deadly poison.
I keep one of my recurves set up to shoot with a release all the time now.
I don't see any reason why it should cause any problems.
As for the "traditional" stuff. What's traditioinal? I don't know, don't care and don't care to know.
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From: aromakr
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Date: 22-Sep-18 |
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I would suggest seeing an Orthopedic surgeon, you probably have carpel tunnel syndrome.
Bob
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 22-Sep-18 |
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I don't know about shooting releases, but I do know it's been done with recurves, and probably longbows since the days of old. Well, my old at least. They sure won't hurt the bow any more than finger shooting unless you dry-fire it too many times, but they can and will change tuning due to minimum contact.
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From: Andy Man
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Date: 22-Sep-18 |
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I knew an old guy many years ago that shot with a homade copy of the old bow lock release
had a little tear drop to catch the string with the thumb over top
worked great for him and was easy and fast to use
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From: Babysaph
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Date: 22-Sep-18 |
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You know everything is traditional until you have an injury. I'm finding that out. I would not hesitate to shoot a release if that is what it took to stay in the game.
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From: Jinkster
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Date: 22-Sep-18 |
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There's also this DIY blast from the past thing called a....
"Concho Release"
very easy to make...just a hand width length of rubber like hose/tubing with a doubled up length of paracord running through it where about 1" of the looped side hangs out the tubing which then gets wrapped around the string just under the nock and is held in place by squeezing the looped end against the tubing with thumb pressure.
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From: Convert
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Date: 22-Sep-18 |
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Great responses fellas I have always been scared of the back tension release I'm sure if I practice with it I would figure it out. Also that lil hand thing is cool wonder if I could find one somewhere
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From: RonG
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Date: 22-Sep-18 |
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Like the info above, get your hand looked at and if no help use what ever it takes to keep you shooting and hunting, I believe Ron LaClair used a chair, feet and one hand to hunt one year.
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From: 1sthound
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Date: 22-Sep-18 |
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Convert I wrecked my hands from working also, so I went to a release last year. I have shot the bejezus out of my recurves with no harm to the bows. Works fine once you get the hang of it. I went the surgery route trying to get my hands back to normal but it did not work. Release away and good luck!
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From: timex
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Date: 22-Sep-18 |
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don't think a stanzloskie back tension release would work holding traditional hunting bow weight in hunting situations. I also disagree with purposely setting a trigger stiff
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From: Hawkeye
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Date: 22-Sep-18 |
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You might want ot take a look at thetalontab.com or do a search for Talon thumb tab on Youtube. It might be a good answer for your situation.
After 25 years in this game, it sure looks and feels "traditional" to me!
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From: larryhatfield
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Date: 22-Sep-18 |
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Remember that nock fit is key to using any kind of release. And only have a finger on the release when you are ready to shoot, just like a rifle.
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From: dean
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Date: 22-Sep-18 |
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I used a caliper wrist strap release on a recurve one season when I hurt my right hand. I found it very important to have the proper release loop on the string, instead of clipping directly to the string. Also, I went back to one of my old target things of mounting a larger kisser button to touch my normal middle finger anchor point, which is just past the corner of my mouth. The mechanical release was then allowed to pull past and float along my face without trying to force its position. The normal nocking point position may vary your finger shooting nocking point.
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From: Tlhbow
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Date: 22-Sep-18 |
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Use nocks that snap/ stay on the string without help from fingers and I tied a second string nocking point for the release to ride on without touching the arrow. The release I used for years was the Winn freeflight. Learned to pull through the shot with it. Always wanted to try one of those Carter's but never did. I hooked on the string because of draw lenth. I adjusted the feathers on the arrows to use as a reference/ ancor point. It's a deadly way to shoot a bow for sure. Good luck with it. Tommy
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From: DanaC
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Date: 22-Sep-18 |
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Friend, see an orthopedic doctor who specializes in hand problems.
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From: 2 bears
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Date: 22-Sep-18 |
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You already have the release. You have experience with it. To answer your question. No, it won't harm the bow and it is a good way to stay in the game. Some releases tend to be hard on strings but you can tie on a string loop just like the compounds use. Go for it. You will probably experience a little improvement in accuracy as a bonus. >>>----> ken
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From: buster v davenport
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Date: 22-Sep-18 |
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Your bow was made somewhere between '73 and '77. bvd
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From: Franklin
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Date: 23-Sep-18 |
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Carpel Tunnel is such an easy fix these days why go through the pain and suffering. I had both mine done and kicked myself for waiting so long.
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From: knobby
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Date: 23-Sep-18 |
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Use it if it keeps you shooting. It won't damage your bow at all but you'll probably need to use a lighter spined arrow. At least that's what I've found. Contact me if you have any questions.
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From: David A.
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Date: 23-Sep-18 |
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Just killed a big bull elk with one of my releases. I've invented some new stuff just recently, blah blah...will post pics on the elk in a few weeks, headed to Montana no time...
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From: David A.
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Date: 23-Sep-18 |
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Sorry to say, the Concho and all other mechanical releases I have tried never satisfied me; always felt like a time bomb about to go off and very loud. They are made for low hold weights...might be some out there that you will be happy with, however. I spent thousands trying stuff...never happy with any of them.
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From: David A.
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Date: 23-Sep-18 |
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Ken, you should see some of the new stuff...much better...hope you are well.
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From: 2 bears
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Date: 23-Sep-18 |
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Yes Thanks, doing well. Anxious to see or try any and every thing you come up with. Congrats on another fine elk.>>>----> Ken
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From: davesonic444
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Date: 23-Sep-18 |
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I found mechanical releases to be loud unless you use the type that has a rope on the release itself. Another thing that might work for you could be a thumb ring. You can make one from pvc pipe to try.
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From: Convert
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Date: 23-Sep-18 |
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I was watching videos of Asian archers using the ring looked like they put there pointer finger over their thumbnail. I was gonna try that. Although I'm not sure if it will help because I have no felling in my thumb but I do want to try it just to rule it out. Convert
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From: Andy Man
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Date: 23-Sep-18 |
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the old man I was taking about when I posted the picture of the bow lock release
made one that looked something like this (thong in end went around his wrist so he could let it dangle
I was very young , but remembered he had crippled hands and shot very well with it was quick too
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From: Dan W
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Date: 24-Sep-18 |
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I don't recommend DIY thumb rings if you have no experience with this very different style of archery. Been there, done that- even with young, healthy strong thumbs you can hurt yourself real bad with a ring that's the wrong shape, wrong size, and no coach.
But, I have been shooting mostly with the thumb release (assisted with the hard ring) for over 12 years now and it's my preferred style. But it didn't and couldn't and would not have happened without finally getting a proper ring from an expert, and lots of coaching, reading, and very careful practice with a light bow.
If all you want is to shoot the equipment you are used to, much better to go with one of the many releases recommended above. I love the Asian styles, but the only reason to go starting over with this is if you are interested in that style. IF you ever encounter Joel Turner he has gone further than anyone else I know of who has blended Asiatic style thumb release with normal Western equipment, AND he shoots mechanical releases and normal 3 finger release- I'm sure he could help you better than anyone whichever path you wanted to pursue.
I can't imagine a release hurting any bow you care to use- I draw 30 to 31 inches on my 1954 Kodiaks- with the thumb ring release and low- stretch strings. Tons of fun!
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From: jk
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Date: 24-Sep-18 |
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I had "trigger finger" from shooting too much 60# several time a week and fixed it after digging thru an old Mayo Clinic home health care book:
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/trigger-finger/symptoms- causes/syc-20365100
That wasn't "carpal tunnel" btw.
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From: badgerman
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Date: 24-Sep-18 |
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Congratulations David on your Elk. Doesn't surprise me as you are a skilled and accomplished hunter, having spent time with you shooting, talking hunting and scouting the desert together for Mule deer. I sent a pm to you on your releases. Joel
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From: David A.
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Date: 25-Sep-18 |
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Thanks, Joel. I guess I'll go ahead and post the video/pic: https://youtu.be/NNbrsTpEkO8
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