Traditional Archery Discussions on the Leatherwall


getting close to critters

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timex 14-Sep-18
Pa Steve 14-Sep-18
timex 14-Sep-18
M60gunner 14-Sep-18
HedgeHunter 14-Sep-18
dean 15-Sep-18
Woods Walker 15-Sep-18
Skeets 15-Sep-18
GF 15-Sep-18
Woods Walker 15-Sep-18
Sam Dunham 15-Sep-18
RymanCat 15-Sep-18
Murray Seratt 16-Sep-18
From: timex
Date: 14-Sep-18




iv always had a knack for getting close to critters & especially staying on top of deer. so much so that years ago folks would worry me constantly about where they should go hunting. to me its always been quiet simple just think like a deer what are the weather conditions & based on that where would you be. if it's unseasonably hot go to a cool bottom if its freezing at night be in the sun in the am always always always stay out of the wind if no extreme weather conditions exist avoid hunting pressure. once on a big tract of public land I found a 1/2 acre briar patch with a small pond inside out in the middle of a field. on any Saturday there would be 20+ hunters on the mountain & it never failed right at dark 15-20 deer would come out the briar patch I killed many there over the years. so don't just go to your spot cause you saw a deer there think why the deer was there deer want to be comfortable just like we do so next time you go hunting put some thought into it. hope this help some out

From: Pa Steve
Date: 14-Sep-18




Very good advice Timex. I had a similar situation years ago on some hard hunted property.. One saturday after not seeing any deer for a few sits I got to thinking if I was a deer where would I be? Well, I found my answer in a dense thicket behind a pond right next to a busy road.. Amazing how many hunters (including myself) walked right by this spot on the way to their stands. Killed about 5 deer exiting that thicket on the other side of the pond in the afternoon. Had to have a west wind and enter like you were a ghost because the deer were usually bedded within 50 yards of my stand. I miss that spot.

From: timex
Date: 14-Sep-18




cant believe this thread hasn't got more attention this doesn't necessarily pertain to am going to bedding areas or pm trails to food. when I was younger I left my truck in the dark & got back in the dark and the name of the game was to find deer & I was - am good at it. gut hunch has something to do with it but mostly just giving the topography of the land & the weather conditions where would I be the most comfortable if I were a deer

From: M60gunner
Date: 14-Sep-18




One thing I learned. Critters will use the easier trails, even manmade hiking paths and three wheeler trails. Just stick to the shadows and move ultra slow. Be ready to setup a hasty ambush.

From: HedgeHunter
Date: 14-Sep-18




Sounds like you’ve done some jugle werk? Hasty near ambush not a good thing to be in. Done right not many guys make it out cept for an ocassiinal squirter!

Hunt a few spots like this regular. One of my favorites is a 10-15 acre overgrown cattle pasture with two ponds . Thick with honey locusts, briars and oaks and walnuts on old fence lines.

From: dean
Date: 15-Sep-18




The busy public lands that we hunt have Asian squirrel hunters that over run one part, another ravine gets tree stands as close as 30 yards apart, every easy entry gets tree stands as close to the parking area as possible. These hunters are very consistent no matter which way the wind is blowing, the deer figure out these patterns real quick. They seem to know right where the public land begins and ends. Areas that do not have trees that hold squirrels and tree stands have the deer.

From: Woods Walker
Date: 15-Sep-18




Ted Nugent once said that deer have 3 priorities in life....

Where's my next meal? What wants to have ME for it's next meal? and, Who am I going to have sex with?

If you use these 3 things as the basis for everything you do in the woods then you're on your way to being able to hunt them just about anywhere/anyplace.

From: Skeets
Date: 15-Sep-18




Timex, keep that spot a secret. Don't tell anybody local or worse yet, non local that hunts there, where your good spots are. I helped a guy that was from 150 miles away one time. The next year they came with a motor home and 2 camper trailers and 12 guys.

From: GF
Date: 15-Sep-18




Actually, Woods, Nugent left out the 4th F...

To fit it in with the quote, you’d have to end it with “And whose arse am I going to have to kick in the process?”

My brother and Godson pulled off a neat little trick - the Soft Bump - on my nephew’s first deer hunt last weekend; they were headed up the hill and bumped a doe Mulie - pretty softly - no stamping or snorting, I think. Now, my brother has been hunting that drainage every September for over 20 years now (lucky bum!) and he’s a smart guy who's learned a thing or two, so he and the boy just settled into the ground where they were, and it wasn’t very long at all until a second, nice mature doe came picking along right to about 15 yards. At which point my nephew’s low blood glucose alarm went off on his insulin pump.

Another time (this would’ve been before my Godson was even a twinkle), my brother and I bumped a doe (again, very gently), and she came stalking back down the hill on a beeline toward my brother. Literally STALKING, as she sneaked back in for a closer look at whatever it had been that had spooked her off in the first place. He was about 15-20 yards behind me on the trail, and she gave me a near- perfect broadside presentation at maybe 15 yards. Which I blew, because just as I was releasing, she picked up a hind-foot to take another step, and I nearly drilled her in the hoof.

So what my brother had learned was that these animals can be curious.

So last week, after the doe bolted off at the sound of the alarm on his son’s insulin pump, they held tight. And sure enough, her curiosity got the best of her and she came back. She was just about into position for GodBoy to score his first deer on the first morning of his first hunt... when the alarm went off SECOND time.

With nothing to lose, they sat tight; and when she came back to within about 60 yards, my brother took the first good angle, and the .50-cal conical did the trick.

I’ve soft-bumped whitetails, as well, sending them back the way they came from... I think it’s because 4-legged predators give chase, and 2-leggers tend to waste ammo. But it seems that if they run off a bit and nothing comes of it, they figure there might not have been a threat after all, so they will try to localize whatever it was that spooked them, and then sneak around that spot - down-wind - to figure out what it was.

With a short-range weapon, they’ll probably be out of range when they do that. So once when I bumped a buck and his lady friend as they came (southbound) along a ridge... when they took off, so did I. I sneak-sprinted about 40-50 yards, quartering NE and downwind, and it wasn’t long after that the buck came out from behind a tree about 10 yards away.

From: Woods Walker
Date: 15-Sep-18




AGREED GF!!!

From: Sam Dunham Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 15-Sep-18




The best way get close is to be close when they walk by.

From: RymanCat
Date: 15-Sep-18




Animals like it easy to walk just like humans and they won't bust brush unless mortally wounded and they don't have all their faculties. Limit you charge to a stalk and less movement to draw near to them.

From: Murray Seratt Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 16-Sep-18




When I have jumped deer that were not spooked, I hide downwind and use a grunt call. They will sometimes feed back to you.

Murray





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