From: Therifleman
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Date: 19-Aug-18 |
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Most of our 3d shoots here do not allow a crawl or string walking. In order to compete i have to have one finger touching the nock and gap shoot. Im more comfortable w a point on between 15 and 20 yards for hunting so switch to a crawl. Just curious who else does something similar.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 19-Aug-18 |
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Too complicated for me, I've never had the discipline to learn various aiming methods so I just stick with one. Fact is though that you need to do it how it works best for you. Accuracy is our friend.
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From: Babysaph
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Date: 19-Aug-18 |
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Me too George. I always thought 3-d was used to practice for hunting. I do not want any method where I have to judge distance . That is why I switched to yhe tradiyonal bow back in the 80's
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From: Buckdancer
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Date: 19-Aug-18 |
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I don't like crawling. Get bugs in my shirt . Split and gap for me
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From: DarrinG
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Date: 19-Aug-18 |
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I have been shooting a crawl this year and like it. That being said, I am a bowhunter, that is my interest, not field or target archery. I enjoy shooting 3-D for hunting practice, and that is where I leave it, for hunting practice.
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From: dr22shooter
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Date: 19-Aug-18 |
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it takes some of the fun out of it for me if I had to estimate the range every time, I practice to 20 sometimes 30 but I want my deer under 15 if possible, but I know have to shoot what works for you dr
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From: motherlode
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Date: 19-Aug-18 |
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Nothing but positives that I can see where accuracy is concerned. No difference than split other than it moves your point up. On short stuff it all becomes about the sight picture anyway. It will allow ylu reach out a lttle further accurately. Just my opinion opinion.
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From: Jim Casto Jr
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Date: 19-Aug-18 |
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I do. I've been using a 20 yard crawl for hunting the past several years for eastern hardwood whitetails and pig hunting in Florida.
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From: 2 bears
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Date: 19-Aug-18 |
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I think a fixed crawl is the simplest of all methods of aiming for hunting. Thank you Jimmy Blackmon. No range estimating. Just, is it close or is it far. Set your bow up for your maximum hunting range- --20 to 30 yard point on and a fixed crawl for 10 to 15 both ranges your choice. If deer is 1/2 way or farther normal hook up. If it is less than 1/2 way use the tied on crawl point. You can put the point directly where you want to hit. No estimating range or gap. Simple and quick. It will put you in the kill zone. Jimmy's videos explain it much better. >>>----> Ken
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From: Therifleman
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Date: 20-Aug-18 |
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I prefer a crawl and/ or string walking and would prefer to practice 3d as i hunt, but right now the competition side makes it difficult to toss the scorecard, so ive been doing both. I agree, we each need to find what works best to achieve accuracy.
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From: Ihunts2much
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Date: 20-Aug-18 |
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I have used the fixed crawl. It worked very well for me. Lately though I moved my anchor from my index finger to middle finger to corner of the mouth. Felt a little weird at first, but puts my point on between 20 and 25 yards.
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From: rallison
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Date: 20-Aug-18 |
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I've shot the same way for decades. 3-under with a high anchor...on my cheekbone.
My tip on target is 25 yards. The gnarly stuff I hunt in offers few shots at or past that. 15 to 20 is about the norm, so that's the mainstay of my practice. I do like stretching it out some, so I shoot out to 40 at home but not at our Wisconsin whitetails...they're jumpy little spuds, lol.
Basically, I aim with my tip slightly under the belly line for close in shots, on the line at 20ish, and under the back for 30.
I also use 3-D as hunting practice, so I shoot the same system through the calender.
IF I still hunted out west, or anyplace offering long range shooting, I'd try a crawl. But, you know, old dog...new tricks...lol.
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From: stykman
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Date: 20-Aug-18 |
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I'm with Mr. Casto on this one.
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From: Jim Casto Jr
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Date: 20-Aug-18 |
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"I'm with Mr. Casto on this one."
Yep. Gap for 3D shoots. Most of the ones I go to require fingers touch the nock. BUT....for hunt'n a fixed crawl is deadly poison. :^)
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From: Therifleman
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Date: 20-Aug-18 |
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So, I'm not the only one. ;). Jim, i sent you a PM.
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From: BenMaher
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Date: 20-Aug-18 |
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Jim , Those dead critters at your feet tell no tales ... except that the crawl is a deadly technique to have in your arsenal. Good stuff.
But it makes you less ‘trad’ ... or something ... lol
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From: Jim Casto Jr
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Date: 20-Aug-18 |
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Trad? I don't hunt trad and I don't shoot trad. I hunt critters and I shoot recurve bows.
What's trad? I don't know, don't care and don't care to know.
But then, you knew that, huh Ben. lol lol
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From: Babysaph
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Date: 20-Aug-18 |
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Nice pics and good shooting zjimmy
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From: Beendare
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Date: 20-Aug-18 |
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Personally I'm starting to question fixed crawl for hunting season.
Oh sure its more accurate...but after shooting some arrows without the crawl, I get more arrow speed and overall a little better arrow flight.
The crawl is more accurate especially if you are shooting spots at 20 yds....but I was surprised how little difference the accuracy thing was when going back to gap. FWIW, I have a 34yd PO....so my gap isn't huge to begin with on hunting shots.
Then there is the variable of an elk coming in. Its an advantage to not have to look at my string....and to have a wider range of shot options.
I can see where a guy with a PO of 45 yds is going to really like the crawl....I'm starting to question whether I will use it for hunting. I haven't chrono'd the difference between arrows but it seems much faster and a little better flight tuning for a hold against the arrow.
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From: Jim Casto Jr
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Date: 20-Aug-18 |
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Beendare,
I doubt very seriously you'd lose more than 1 or 2 fps with the crawl--why would you?
As for the arrow flight, all you need to do is tune your bow for however you're going to shoot it.
I don't look at the string. I simply slip my tab up to the served 20 yard crawl.
If I were elk hunting, I'd probably set my point-on at 30 yards rather than the 20 I use for eastern whitetails.
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From: Therifleman
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Date: 22-Aug-18 |
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I don't notice any velocity loss with a slight crawl. Ive put in the time trying different things aiming and tuning wise and my set up for hunting this year includes a 34" arrow and just a bit of a crawl for an 18 yard point on. My whitetail hunting yields shots between 10 and 20 yards. For the way my mind works-- put the tip of the arrow on the spot is as simple as it gets.
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