Traditional Archery Discussions on the Leatherwall


Ground Hunting

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Onehair 09-Aug-18
TrapperKayak 09-Aug-18
Woods Walker 09-Aug-18
sir misalots 09-Aug-18
Onehair 09-Aug-18
George D. Stout 09-Aug-18
ground hunter 09-Aug-18
Nemophilist 09-Aug-18
Orion 09-Aug-18
sir misalots 09-Aug-18
Onehair 09-Aug-18
Sawtooth (Original) 09-Aug-18
Sawtooth (Original) 09-Aug-18
TrapperKayak 09-Aug-18
Sawtooth (Original) 09-Aug-18
Onehair 09-Aug-18
Nemophilist 09-Aug-18
sir misalots 09-Aug-18
TrapperKayak 09-Aug-18
Nemophilist 09-Aug-18
Stealth2 09-Aug-18
Roadrunner 09-Aug-18
Michael Schwister 09-Aug-18
Michael Schwister 09-Aug-18
Michael Schwister 09-Aug-18
Nimrod 09-Aug-18
Pdiddly 09-Aug-18
Nemophilist 09-Aug-18
JD Page 09-Aug-18
Nemophilist 09-Aug-18
David Mitchell 09-Aug-18
PapaSmurf 09-Aug-18
dr22shooter 09-Aug-18
Babysaph 09-Aug-18
ny yankee 09-Aug-18
dean 09-Aug-18
ButchMo 09-Aug-18
Andy Man 09-Aug-18
Rutnomore 09-Aug-18
Keefers 09-Aug-18
Keefers 09-Aug-18
hawkeye in PA 09-Aug-18
fdp 09-Aug-18
wmb238 09-Aug-18
TrapperKayak 09-Aug-18
monkeyball 09-Aug-18
monkeyball 09-Aug-18
Onehair 09-Aug-18
BigJim 10-Aug-18
sir misalots 10-Aug-18
ground hunter 10-Aug-18
StickandString 10-Aug-18
larryhatfield 10-Aug-18
ground hunter 10-Aug-18
Bushytail 11-Aug-18
Wapiti - - M. S. 11-Aug-18
Kanati 11-Aug-18
Keefers 11-Aug-18
Iowacedarshooter 11-Aug-18
PA-R 11-Aug-18
foxbo 11-Aug-18
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Woods Walker 11-Aug-18
dean 11-Aug-18
Kelly 11-Aug-18
Andy Man 11-Aug-18
Osr144 12-Aug-18
Ovilla Bill 12-Aug-18
Babysaph 13-Aug-18
Babysaph 13-Aug-18
Woods Walker 13-Aug-18
sir misalots 13-Aug-18
Andy Man 13-Aug-18
Andy Man 13-Aug-18
George D. Stout 13-Aug-18
Andy Man 13-Aug-18
monkeyball 13-Aug-18
monkeyball 13-Aug-18
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Keefers 13-Aug-18
BigJim 13-Aug-18
Woods Walker 14-Aug-18
shade mt 15-Aug-18
Dreamcatcher 15-Aug-18
From: Onehair
Date: 09-Aug-18




I have made a commitment to a year on the ground. I have had good success in the past but keep climbing the trees. Thinking of a Waldrop Pac Seat. Any opinions on your experience?

From: TrapperKayak
Date: 09-Aug-18

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I am an opportunist and take advantage of 'blinds' I find naturally. I shot at and missed a 6 pt from behind this rootwad last fall. Grunted him in to 18 yds, but deflected an arrow off an unseen twig. I have had good success at this kind of hunting - finding natural stands and calling in bucks. Its way more fun than waiting in a tree and shivering...to me anyway.

From: Woods Walker
Date: 09-Aug-18




With the Pac Seat or with ground hunting in general?

From: sir misalots
Date: 09-Aug-18




I hunt from the ground about 100% of the time. As far as ground hunting there are pros and cons (but its funner IMO and much easier not to hang a stand or carry a climber for me )

In a tree you can see for a ways, on the ground a deer will appear in front of you like a ghost.

As far as a seat , try and get something comfortable. When you're uncomfortable you'll move around more.

When ground hunting try and keep the sun to your back for your set up.

Ive not used the seat you mentioned but have heard good things.

Good luck and post a pic of your success

From: Onehair
Date: 09-Aug-18




I'm wanting info on the chair. Good info guys, thanks

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 09-Aug-18




Been on the ground now since the mid 1980's. I don't carry a seat all the time since I want that ability to move quickly if needed. I don't think moving around is a disadvantage and is actually one reason I got out of the trees. Yes, normally you won't get as much shooting opportunity but that's part of the challenge that people propose they took up traditional archery for..at least that's what most say.

The biggest challenge it just letting the stands at home and getting past the notion that you have to kill something every time you go out. You'll never learn to be a good 'ground hunter' if you don't hunt from the ground.

From: ground hunter
Date: 09-Aug-18




Well I do a lot of ground hunting. I build a lot of natural blinds in the post season, its a lot of fun, and some I never get back to use.

I tried the WalDrop chair, it is nicely made, but not for me, too hard to shoot out of for me.............

I have never found the perfect chair, because some are still too heavy, to be effective, for the long hauls, but there have been a few threads just on the chairs.....

I love pit blinds, and old root wads, you can dig out some nice ones there............

There are times I will use a guile, but only put the top on, and only after I am set up.

again, I ground hunt a lot, but only if it is the most effective means,,,, depends on the situation

as advised prior, movement is your killer to your set up.....

I go in as light as possible, I bring nothing I will not use, I am not going on a camping trip I am going to hunt deer for a few hours............

From: Nemophilist
Date: 09-Aug-18




I'd like to hear more on the Waldrop Pac Seat from them who use it. I may up grade from my camo five gallon bucket swivel seat.

From: Orion Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 09-Aug-18




I like a hammock seat for ground hunting. Doesn't work in every situation. Need a tree to attach it to, but very quick and easy to set up and very quiet (after broken in) and comfortable in use.

From: sir misalots
Date: 09-Aug-18




I like the idea of groundhunter seat that Big Jim sells. You need to have a tree to lean against, but you arent real low to the ground. Also there is room to move your legs. I agree there is no perfect seat out there.

Like bows,arrows,camo and broadheads...its a personal choice.

From: Onehair
Date: 09-Aug-18




I have tried different seats including the hammock. So far my favorite, just hard to get out of for shots to my right. The Big Jim's is a good idea but even with a good cushion taped on, I just don't have enough meat on my butt for that seat.

From: Sawtooth (Original) Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 09-Aug-18

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I have killed several deer from the ground and out of a Waldrop pacseAt. The seat is very comfortable and easily transportable- and no tree necessary- it can stand on its own. Is it the “perfect” chair? To me is, but it’s not for everybody. I rarely go on a hunting/camping/whatever trip without it.

From: Sawtooth (Original) Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 09-Aug-18

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The view of the ground blind

From: TrapperKayak
Date: 09-Aug-18




I have one of those NWTF vests with a padded seat cushion strapped onto the back, and I use it when I sit down to snack on lunch. You just unsnap the couplers on each side and it remains zippered to the bottom of the vest pouch, and sit on a rock or log, stump, etc. I only use it when its wet out or snowy. I rarely sit when actually hunting anyway, so mostly it remains attached. This reason is this: I was sitting flat on my can with my bow over my lap while calling at a bull in the buffer zone in YNP once. He wasn't really being responsive, or so I thought so I remained seated. Then I mewed once more, and all of a sudden, there ran up and stopped a decent but young 6x6, 15 ft in front of me, broadside. I was helpless, could not get my bow into position for a shot since I was sitting down. It was like I was sitting on steps too, but roots and a drop off. I slowly started to position my bow for a shot and he bolted off. I will NEVER again be seated again when actually hunting because of that day. Sorry, got no experience with a Waldrop seat.

From: Sawtooth (Original) Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 09-Aug-18

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And myself, just after the deer fell. I arrowed a spike as he quartered past me. The shot was good, he bolted away from me, then turned and walked right back. He fell less than 5 feet from where he met the arrow. Ground hunting is a lot more exiting to me. That pacseAt is quality piece of equipment!

From: Onehair
Date: 09-Aug-18




Thanks Dendy,

From: Nemophilist
Date: 09-Aug-18




Nice pictures Dendy.

From: sir misalots
Date: 09-Aug-18




sawtooth nice pics

From: TrapperKayak
Date: 09-Aug-18

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I'd possibly give this one a try, esp if it pivots 360 degrees. More than likely just leave it out in my brush stand if I wanted to try it out some morning for a spell...not tote it around.

From: Nemophilist
Date: 09-Aug-18

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The seat I've used for quite a few years when hunting from the ground. My camo bucket seat with a padded top that spins around 360 degrees. I'll have to check out them Waldrop Pac Seats.

From: Stealth2 Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 09-Aug-18




I only bow hunt from the ground and 3 of my natural setups I can use my Torges seat.

From: Roadrunner
Date: 09-Aug-18




Don't know about the seat you mentioned, but I have used a nif-t-seat for years. Best thing I ever used.

From: Michael Schwister Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 09-Aug-18




I bought two for christmas. LOVE IT! So good I am leaving my folding camp chairs and pack frame at hoem for my upcoming elk hunt. I will use it as a stool in camp. Carry it around with my day pack so I can sit comfortably during meals and anywhere while glassing, and pack out a full load on th first trip to the truck. I used it in Texas on a movement to contact hog hunt and now I do not even remember how I lived without it. I have had a BUNCH of offers to buy it. I recommend you buy two, just in case he quits making them.

This year will use it and my ghillie to hunt areas without a good tree of so steep that treestand are either eye level with deer at 10 yards or so steep downhill there is no ethical shot.

The best purchase item for hunting public land since the climbing treestand IMHO.

From: Michael Schwister Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 09-Aug-18




My second one was for the ol'lady. My grandson took mine over at ETAR, So I guess I need to order a third one. The Ol' Lady and grandson like then more than I do.

From: Michael Schwister Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 09-Aug-18




My second one was for the ol'lady. My grandson took mine over at ETAR, So I guess I need to order a third one. The Ol' Lady and grandson like then more than I do.

From: Nimrod
Date: 09-Aug-18




I really like my Millennium tree seat. Most comfortable seat I ever used and it's easy to transport and set up. You gotta have a tree to hang it onto though, it's only con.........Nimrod

From: Pdiddly
Date: 09-Aug-18

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I use a quality three-legged Walkstool...it is made in Sweden.

They have an accessory that stops the legs from sinking into soft ground.

I can set it up so I am able to lean against a tree...it is super light and very easy to carry in my pack and takes up very little room.

I practice shooting from it sitting down as that is necessary in many cases.

From: Nemophilist
Date: 09-Aug-18

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A couple of the natural ground blinds I use my camo bucket seat in.

From: JD Page
Date: 09-Aug-18




I have a big friend who squashed my three leg chair in a turkey blind..may it rest in pieces..

From: Nemophilist
Date: 09-Aug-18

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From: David Mitchell
Date: 09-Aug-18




I have to second the Millennium tree seat. That thing is sooo comfy for a long sit. Yes a tree is needed but you can set it at just the right height for you.

From: PapaSmurf
Date: 09-Aug-18




Been hunting this was a long time. A tip:

Set your seat up where you will hunt, sit down, and draw your bow. Imagine the hunt. There are a lot of things that can get in the way

From: dr22shooter
Date: 09-Aug-18




I use aluminum chairs, painted camo with strap for carrying, built 2 trying to get them lighter, found a chair on local yard sale, I am a little heavy, and have to use a flat runner around the bottom where the chair will not sink in ground I also use it for squirrel hunting with my bullberry 22 sit by a tree, use side of it for rest, works good and in turkey stands also dr

From: Babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 09-Aug-18




I took up trad hunting because the bow was a lot simpler. i like to kill deer and quite honestly can not kill enough on the ground. I've tried but I can't do it.,I need between 8-10 deer a year

From: ny yankee
Date: 09-Aug-18




Man was not intended to be perched in trees. If he was, we would have wings. Personally, I just dont enjoy being in a tree. I like trees, just not with me in one. I have not seen any more deer while in a tree than I have while on the ground.

From: dean
Date: 09-Aug-18




I tried using an original Sabor climber. My son called it 'the widow maker'. the first thing I usually did was to dang near fall off trying to the seat into position. The second thing i did most of the time was throw my back quiver to the ground. The third thing i usually did was pee on my boots while hoping the band strap that was connected to the seat part wouldn't strangle me if I fell off while peeing on my boots. One day when I went into town for lunch some kind person stole my seat part and cut the strap off making it no longer usable. I have killed 49 or 50 Iowa deer, all from the ground, sometimes breaking every stealth rule possible. I have a Huntmor chair, a Grizzly strap on seat, a snap to my belt soft butt pad, and a Nifty Seat. About half the deer I get, I am just sneaking around brush lines along the creeks with the snap on butt pad dangling from my belt. I concentrate on areas away from where others like to hang tree stands. Our deer can pattern hunters better than our hunters can paternity deer.

From: ButchMo
Date: 09-Aug-18




I've tried a Pacseat. Didn't care for it at all. Sits too low to the ground for me to get out of easily. The Millennium tree seat is amazing. So light you won't feel it's weight. Very quite and easy to shoot out of. Yeah, you need a tree but, where I hunt there are plenty of them around in the right place. Takes 30 seconds or less to set up as high or as low as you need. Only drawback is it's so comfortable you want to fall asleep. :^)

From: Andy Man
Date: 09-Aug-18




mostly nothing or a soft Fat Boy cushion(butt pad)

long sits that are planned use a sumit tree seat (strap on) or a hammock seat

From: Rutnomore
Date: 09-Aug-18




I LOVE my Waldrop, Monkeyball told me about it and he was spot on. Hunting on the ground is fun, I have learned to try and have some big trees in area so when the critters head goes behind the tree, I can make my move. A learning curve cuz you will get close but making your move is difficult.

From: Keefers
Date: 09-Aug-18

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Took this deer at 12 yards while hiding behind a fallen tree with a big root ball and small holly tree. I was sitting in my Huntmore 360 chair.

From: Keefers
Date: 09-Aug-18

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First thing I saw was how Big his nose was before his antlers.

From: hawkeye in PA
Date: 09-Aug-18




I carry a hunters specialties inflatable cushion, very lite, rolls up small can use it on a rock, log or just plain sitting on the ground. I practice regularly with bow horizontal to the ground for when I'm sitting with back to a tree and legs flat.

From: fdp
Date: 09-Aug-18




In over 40 years of bowhunting I've hunted from a tree stand exactly 3 times. Not my thing.

From: wmb238
Date: 09-Aug-18




Keith, Great old buck.

From: TrapperKayak
Date: 09-Aug-18




Keefers, that's a beautiful webhorn. Wow, love that deer, and from the ground, esp. satisfying I bet.

From: monkeyball
Date: 09-Aug-18




No comparison, absolutely none, to the Waldrop. Function, quality, adaptability, ease of carry, you name it.

Huntmores, stools, Niftys, buckets, yeah they all have there place.

But as the phrase goes" Once you've tried all the rest.....now it's time for the best." Give me a Waldrop!

David is making them a little higher in height now. Price has also gone up, about $220. or so. Quality and surefire function does not come cheap. You will have this chair for many seasons to come.

Good Shooting->->->->Craig

From: monkeyball
Date: 09-Aug-18




Did I mention they were adaptable?

Good Shooting->->->->Craig

From: Onehair
Date: 09-Aug-18




I ordered mine today. This will be the year of the ground hunt.

From: BigJim Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 10-Aug-18
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I have been using the millennium chairs for years now. They are by far the most comfortable chair out there.

They rotate silently and break down in to a small easy to carry 3lb package.

It is what we sit on for all those long days at the archery events and what I choose to sit on when ground hunting in Kansas ..day light to dark.

I have all the other seats somewhere, but the millennium free standing chair is the only one I use.. I do occasionally use the tree seat.

BigJim

From: sir misalots
Date: 10-Aug-18




i've missed more deer from the ground than I have from a tree:)

Shot at a doe once, she ran around in a circle and stopped where she was the first time. Took an arrow from the cat quiver and sailed another over her back

Ever see the movie ground hogs day? If so, you'll understand :)

From: ground hunter
Date: 10-Aug-18




Big Jim,,,, what am I missing.... it shows on line that it comes in at 7.5 pounds, and does not look that portable. Looks like a great blind chair, but not for run and gun.....

Is there another chair of theres, that I do not know about,,, thanks in advance

I will check there product line

From: StickandString
Date: 10-Aug-18




I quit going into trees years ago. I have hunted not the ground for about 20 years. I make blinds out of what is out there or use existing blinds like root balls etc.

Still looking for a good chair/seat that sits higher than most on the market. Most of the places I hunt do not have trees so a seat/chair that needs a tree isn't an option. Considering a Chama Chair but its a bit pricey.

From: larryhatfield
Date: 10-Aug-18




From: ground hunter
Date: 10-Aug-18




Stick I just sold a Black Out chair,,,, you might want to check them out,,,, sold thru Bass Pro, redhead line. The chair is 79.00 the legs which there are 3, will adjust from 2 to 19 inches. each leg will adjust and lock in, individually.

The seat has a back, and does swivel 360, and is dead quiet.

The legs have goose feet, to avoid sticking in mud, or being able to level on rocks and loose material

It comes in a carrying case, one strap style. I shot some deer out of it,,,, however it comes in at 8.5lbs, too heavy for me,,,,

From: Bushytail Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 11-Aug-18




I tryed the 3 legged stools. I hate them. Only ok for 5 minutes, then everything below your waist goes numb. I would like to try the Waldrop seat. I found out with the tree seats is you do need to practice pulling your bow because sometimes your elbow will bump the tree. You need to be conscious of the tree behind you.

From: Wapiti - - M. S. Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 11-Aug-18




Another one that's not a fan of 3 legged stools.I use a turkey vest with a thick padded cushion,for my sitting.Plus many pockets and compartments for whatever you want to carry.

From: Kanati
Date: 11-Aug-18




I dont hunt alot from the ground but when i do i use The Hunters Seat. Its also sold by Big Jim.

From: Keefers
Date: 11-Aug-18




Some of the 3 legged stools made my legs go Numb as well and then I had back surgery and invested in a well built Huntmore 360 seat and can sit from Sun up to sun down and have done it often. I'm certain it isn't the seat for everyone and have heard everything from how much it cost when they were being made to how much it weighs etc But for me I absolutely Love it and My money was well spent and ain't looked back. A buddy of mine had a 3 legged one I sat in while Turkey hunting this year and it had this Big plastic knob you would adjust and with in a 1/2 hour I couldn't stand it no more. Next time I'll make sure my Huntmore go's with me .

From: Iowacedarshooter
Date: 11-Aug-18




76 and bad knees so i use a millenium fold up seat that is absolutely comfortable , swivels 360 and folds up into a nice package to carry in and out! which isn't very far for me! it is a little on the heavy side tho.

From: PA-R Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 11-Aug-18




I have the Waldrop chair, very comfortable and sets up fast. used mine about 7-8 hunts last year. thinking about selling, going back to my three leg stool, or a pad to sit on. Peter.

From: foxbo
Date: 11-Aug-18

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"millenium fold up seat that is absolutely comfortable , swivels 360 and folds up into a nice package to carry."

Yup, the best hunting seat out there and I have owned most of the big name ones.

From: foxbo
Date: 11-Aug-18

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From: foxbo
Date: 11-Aug-18

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I attached a military molle frame including the straps and hip belt for easy transport. Works well for me.

From: Woods Walker
Date: 11-Aug-18

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Here's the one I use. The best part is that I don't have to carry it because they are all over the woods!

From: dean
Date: 11-Aug-18




Yes, but they don't have that nice bum fitting shape very often no can holders.

From: Kelly
Date: 11-Aug-18




No swiveling, either and I can never find them in the exact spot I need one!

From: Andy Man
Date: 11-Aug-18




Woodswalker X 2

unless planning to spend a long time in one spot

From: Osr144
Date: 12-Aug-18




There ain't anything better to find the game and stalk up to it and shoot it.Biggest sense if achievement I have ever had.It is probably one of the hardest ways to hunt but I just love it.You just have to admire the skill and talent of the natives in the past who regularly did that for their survival.It is really of no consequence to us as we ain't about to starve if we fail.OSR

From: Ovilla Bill
Date: 12-Aug-18




I have hunted on the ground with both the Huntmore 360 and the Waldrop Pac seat for several years. The Pack Seat is far more versatile. Last year I purchase one of the upgrades that David Waldrop is offering, plus a kit to upgrade my older model. My hunting bud will be using one of mine this season. Try it, you'll like it.

From: Babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 13-Aug-18




The problem is that not all of those trees and stumps ard where the deer are. That changes and you have to be able to climb near the food source

From: Babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 13-Aug-18




The problem is that not all of those trees and stumps ard where the deer are. That changes and you have to be able to climb near the food source

From: Woods Walker
Date: 13-Aug-18




You got feet? No problem! Just shed all the "impedimenta"....easy peasey.

And it only took me 4 decades to finally figure that out!

From: sir misalots
Date: 13-Aug-18




Sometimes a bow , arrows and the bare essentials is all I take. hate packing stuff

I often will hide cheap three legged stools in the woods I hunt. when I need them Ill get them. saves packing in an out

I like a taller three legged stool, but they are harder to find.When sitting I like my waist higher than my knees

Padded knees are a help as you can kneel at times extra iron-on knee patches are a help (and can be found in camo)

From: Andy Man
Date: 13-Aug-18




Lone Wolf made a tree seat some years ago

very light and functional

sorta like a Dean torgis seat kinda thing

From: Andy Man
Date: 13-Aug-18




https://www.lonewolfhuntingproducts.com/videos/instructional-videos/tree-seat-18/

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 13-Aug-18




I'm sure some of those seats are very comfortable, but some look like a pain in the a$$ to carry over a long walk. It's nice to be unencumbered with just the bow, arrows and a small pack. No tree seat unless someone goes along to carry it. I hear about how easy it is, but I'm not seeing that in the pictures.

Years ago I made one of the Torges seats and I hated that thing too. Maybe if I made it half the size it would have been okay. May have to carry one though when I get old...knees bitch about every bend nowadays. ;)

From: Andy Man
Date: 13-Aug-18




I agree George

Hate carrying extra crap

I mostly carry a Fatboy cussion straped around my waist

From: monkeyball
Date: 13-Aug-18

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On the Waldrop you can mount your Daypack. The seat folded up is flat. With shoulder straps, chest buckle and waist buckle (all adj.) it comes in at around 5#.

You can shoot with it on, you can use it free standing...or lean it up against a tree and fasten it.

You would need to take three of these other seats listed to do the things the Waldrop can in itself. No comparison.

Good Shooting->->->->Craig

From: monkeyball
Date: 13-Aug-18

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Or you can put this one that is posted above in your pack and find just the right trees.

Good Shooting->->->->Craig

From: Babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 13-Aug-18




I take it that fellows that like to go light are not sitting much. If I'm going to hunt on the ground here in WV I'm at least going to have to sit still . Our deer will not allow you to move around or walk about like a stump shoot. They simply won't tolerate it.

From: Keefers
Date: 13-Aug-18




TTT for Matt!

From: BigJim Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 13-Aug-18
BigJim is a Stickbow.com Sponsor - Website




Ground Hunter, I missed the weight. I looked at the site and saw that it is advertised at 8.5 lbs too. I couldn't believe it so I just weighed one thinking ..NO way is 8.5lbs. 4 or 5 maybe, but the scale said 8.5.

Everyone that I have shown them to are amazed by how light they are and how well the pack/port.

I have 7 or 8 of my own now. We have extras for the guys that come and hunt pig blinds. My wife has confiscated one for the front porch of the office and those are the chairs that we sit on all day when doing archery events.

BigJim

From: Woods Walker
Date: 14-Aug-18




And you would take that wrong Babysaph. Many of my hunts are stillhunts between fallen logs that I've enhanced beforehand with brush/branches to further break up my outline. When and where I go depends on the weather/wind/deer movement/my mood.

I carry as little as absolutely possible. And you can "move still" as well as "sit still". Those who hunt this way will know exactly what I mean.

From: shade mt
Date: 15-Aug-18




years ago you didn't have the choices you have now. Many of us "learned" to hunt from the ground.

From: Dreamcatcher
Date: 15-Aug-18




Babysaph, It is called training yourself to sit quiet and observe your surroundings and be prepared.





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