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Velcro rest and strike plate issues?!?

Messages posted to thread:
RedBeardBowman 08-Aug-18
fdp 08-Aug-18
RedBeardBowman 08-Aug-18
fdp 08-Aug-18
Mpdh 08-Aug-18
twostrings 08-Aug-18
BigJim 08-Aug-18
Bassman 09-Aug-18
BigHorn 09-Aug-18
meatCKR 09-Aug-18
George D. Stout 09-Aug-18
Gray Goose Shaft 09-Aug-18
Will tell 09-Aug-18
PEARL DRUMS 09-Aug-18
sheepdogreno 09-Aug-18
toxophilus84 09-Aug-18
gluetrap 09-Aug-18
jk 09-Aug-18
Osr144 09-Aug-18
Osr144 09-Aug-18
Cabingirl 10-Aug-18
RedBeardBowman 10-Aug-18
From: RedBeardBowman
Date: 08-Aug-18




Anyone have issues with Velcro snagging the quills of the fletchings? Every now and then upon release I hear a slapping sound. I noticed I was getting some substantial ware on the outside of my rest. Arrows seem to bareshaft fine but I guess it still could be a tune issue somehow. I replaced the rest with new Velcro and was simulating an arrow coming across the rest and noticed the Velcro kind of snagging the fletchings. Anyone experience anything similar?

From: fdp
Date: 08-Aug-18




Nope. But I don't use it. Is it catching in the hooks of the Velcro or on the edges?

From: RedBeardBowman
Date: 08-Aug-18




Fdp I'm not sure what you mean but when I drag the arrow across the rest the quills of the arrow where the fletching starts catches in the fabric a little. Also I have wear on the outside of the rest that has completely rubbed the fabric off down to the sticky back plastic

From: fdp
Date: 08-Aug-18




Sounds like 2 things. First, turn the velcro the other way. What I mean is that velcro tends to have "grain" much like a calf hair strike plate. You should be able to feel it by running your finger over it. Turn the Velcro so that arrow is going with the "grain" rather than against it.

Then, recheck the tune and see if the wear was caused by the quills snagging on the Velcro or from a spine issue.

From: Mpdh
Date: 08-Aug-18




Sounds like arrow spine or nock height problem.

MP

From: twostrings
Date: 08-Aug-18




Check the front of the feather where the glue line begins. Is it smooth? Is there anything that will catch the velcro? If so bevel it with a knife or sand it smooth and put a drop of glue on it.

From: BigJim Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 08-Aug-18
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Yes Mpdh, I agree. Most likely low nock point, or in the case of three finger under shooters.. not using a nock point above and below the arrow..can be a big issue. The reason it's catching your feathers is likely low nock height.

I like the velcro on the shelf..not quite as much as I like Bear hair, but I don't know where to buy the Bear hair in bulk.

I absolutely don't like the velcro on the side plate as it pushes the shaft away from the riser and will change the tune requirement. It then eventually wears in and againg changes the tune.

From: Bassman Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 09-Aug-18




If you can not get a fix for the velcro try this old school method.Make an arrow rest , and strike plate from 2 pieces of nice thin leather.Crazy glue a match stick sized piece of leather in the middle of, and under the rest.Do the same with the strike plate ,but use just one thin layer of leather.When you start shooting the bow you will see a shiny wear spot were the arrow passes through, about one quarter of an inch on the strike plate and arrow rest.When i set a bow up for shooting off a rest it is the only way i do it, and it has always worked great for me.

From: BigHorn
Date: 09-Aug-18




i stpped using velcro for the reasons mentioned above. i use leather and or calf hair pretty much esclusively if im not using a flipper. a little armor all on the leather makes it slick and silent too (shiney finished leather)

From: meatCKR
Date: 09-Aug-18




Look for the low profile velcro. It's still fuzzy but much thinner than the regular stuff. Or if you can't find the low profile stuff, take a barber clipper and shave down the regular stuff. The thinner you can get the fuzz, the better.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 09-Aug-18




I've been using Velcro for years and have not had any issues. I suspect your tune needs attended to help you clear. Feathers should be flexing away from the rest anyway.

From: Gray Goose Shaft
Date: 09-Aug-18




I haven't noticed quills snagging velcro rests, but I have a few bows that were wearing the outside edge of the rest. The shafts are probably a little stiff. I raised the nocking point an eighth to three sixteenths as stated above and eliminated the contact and stopped the slapping noise.

I have been putting a daub of fletching cement at the leading end of the fletch to make a smooth transition from the fletch to the shaft. It reduces the chance that a target face or stuffing will rip the fletch off. Sometimes my bow hand creeps up and the fletch runs across my hand so I want the leading end to be smooth. In the future, I'll take twostrings advice and trim that leading end to smooth it.

I have used Velcro because it is convenient, but prefer the looks of leather. I bought a wallet at a Goodwill shop for $2 and have enough black leather for many bows.

A little Armor All? Thanks for the tip, BigHorn.

From: Will tell
Date: 09-Aug-18

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I used to use Velcro but found that the pads you buy to go under chair legs are way better. Their already to go, just cut to size and peel off the bottom and press on.

From: PEARL DRUMS
Date: 09-Aug-18




If you find your set up is right and it still appears to be snagging, use a beard trimmer to buzz that Velcro right down tight. Its still quiet and smooth, but less grabby.

From: sheepdogreno
Date: 09-Aug-18




I use Velcro but I also take a lighter to it and melt it down some and pad it with my finger while its still soft...makes for an excellent rest in my opinion.

From: toxophilus84
Date: 09-Aug-18




A few years ago I switched to shooting three fingers under; the velcro would be worn away on the shelf after about a week of shooting.

After shooting through paper the tears on the paper looked like the logo from that monster energy drink... eventually I got bullet holes BUT I had to raise my nocking point to 13/16 above 90 degrees in order to get there (for my shooting style/form).

I don't think I've had to change my rest in the last year (usually do it well before hunting season).

From: gluetrap
Date: 09-Aug-18




went to felt like it better...ron

From: jk
Date: 09-Aug-18




Velcro is NFG. A hard surface, such as a tiny piece of polished wood or rawhide is better. Less friction than velcro, less ougly.

From: Osr144
Date: 09-Aug-18




I like to use an old inverted tooth brush and leather side plate.OSR

From: Osr144
Date: 09-Aug-18




I like to use an old inverted tooth brush and leather side plate.OSR

From: Cabingirl
Date: 10-Aug-18




The shelf plates from Widow are great $4.00 and they last a long time.Ya won't have any trouble with your fetching.

From: RedBeardBowman
Date: 10-Aug-18




UPDATE: first off thanks for all the input guys. So I failed to realize that one thing I had changed in my shot was that I switched from a glove to a tab a few weeks ago. Everyone said to switch for a smoother release and I had a friend give me one so I figured what the heck. I switched back to my glove and I haven't heard the smack sound nor have I had any signs of the arrow dragging the outside of my rest. So for now I'm going to blame a poor release.





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