From: tonto59
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Date: 27-Jul-18 |
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For those who have done it. Could you share your experience with us. For those of us that are very interested in hearing what you have to say. How many years knapping did it take you. Before you thought your heads were capable to take a deer?
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From: deerfly
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Date: 27-Jul-18 |
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He doesn't post here any more, but if you contact Ryan Gill I'm sure he'll be able to tell you all you need to know and more. Ryan even killed an elk last year with a stone point. He's the real deal and a real nice guy too. His site is gillsprimitivearchery or just google his name and you'll find him.
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From: Fuzzy
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Date: 27-Jul-18 |
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you should be able to turn out a serviceable hunting point from good workable material with only a few hours, not years' of experience knapping, provided you have a good instructor and learn the basics well.
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From: Bjrogg
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Date: 27-Jul-18 |
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I guess it took me about four or five months to get points I really felt where good enough to hunt with. I didn't have any instructor though. I learned from watching a lot of you tube videos and making a lot of gravel. I'm sure a really good instructor would be a huge help. I've since changed the shape of points I make for hunting a bit. I've also gotten much better at knapping and building good shooting arrows. I got started doing this Primitive Archery stuff by knapping. Then making some very crude stone point arrows. Then building selfbows. I've learned so much and my equipment has improved so much in the three years since I started knapping. My goal is to harvest a white tail deer from my farm using all materials from my farm. I did take a four point buck with my HHB selfbow from a tree I harvested less than thirty feet from where I was standing when I shot him. Unfortunately I was using a steel point when it happened. I do have confidence in my stone points though and I'm sure it's going to happen.
Bjrogg
PS here's a hunting point I like next to a kids arrow I knapped a point for
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From: Bjrogg
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Date: 27-Jul-18 |
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I guess it took me about four or five months to get points I really felt where good enough to hunt with. I didn't have any instructor though. I learned from watching a lot of you tube videos and making a lot of gravel. I'm sure a really good instructor would be a huge help. I've since changed the shape of points I make for hunting a bit. I've also gotten much better at knapping and building good shooting arrows. I got started doing this Primitive Archery stuff by knapping. Then making some very crude stone point arrows. Then building selfbows. I've learned so much and my equipment has improved so much in the three years since I started knapping. My goal is to harvest a white tail deer from my farm using all materials from my farm. I did take a four point buck with my HHB selfbow from a tree I harvested less than thirty feet from where I was standing when I shot him. Unfortunately I was using a steel point when it happened. I do have confidence in my stone points though and I'm sure it's going to happen.
Bjrogg
PS here's a hunting point I like next to a kids arrow I knapped a point for
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From: tonto59
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Date: 27-Jul-18 |
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Nice looking head Bjrogg. Thanks for posting it.
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From: 4t5
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Date: 28-Jul-18 |
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Check out Ryan Gills YOUTUBE videos, Hunt Primitive.
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From: Bjrogg
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Date: 28-Jul-18 |
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Thanks tonto 59. It's hard to really answer how long it would take someone. Everyone is different. Some people find it relaxing and some find it frustrating. Some find it both. I've got a quite a few hobbies and I find I have to be in the right mood to knap. I really have to get totally wrapped up in the stone I'm working, I find it best for me to not get in a hurry and think each flake removal out. For me teaching and learning knapping has been and continues to be one of the more challenging skills Ive learned. I still break points, there just a lot nicer points than the ones I broke when I first started. I know a lot of people who tried but just couldn't get the hang of it. I know others that just seemed to pick it up right away.
Bjrogg
PS I've never meet Ryan but I very much respect his knapping and hunting skills and he has taken and failed to take animals with stone points. I believe he has a good idea what works and what doesn't
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From: Will tell
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Date: 28-Jul-18 |
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That's one of Ryan Gills heads. Scarrry sharp. I have four ready to go mounted on Bamboo and have bone nocks., but haven't killed a deer yet with one.
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From: Osage Outlaw
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Date: 28-Jul-18 |
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I killed a 2.5 year old buck with a stone point knapped by my friend Tracey. The deer didn't even know it was hit. It was walking slowly when the arrow hit it. The deer stopped and looked around before continuing to slowly walk away. After a short distance it started to get wobbly and it tried to run. The point had went through 1 lung and into the heart. The point was not damaged at all.
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From: fdp
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Date: 28-Jul-18 |
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Well made knapped points are just as deadly as the newest, greatest steel point on the market.
Sadly, I have not yet mastered the technique of knapping.
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From: selfbow
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Date: 28-Jul-18 |
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I started flintknapping 15 years ago. I agree that once you have the basics down, you can make a pretty decent point fairly quickly. But it took me several years to be able to make a dozen points of matched weight and design out of different materials.
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From: selfbow
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Date: 28-Jul-18 |
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Took this Buck last season with a 100grain obsidian head. Spine shot, not what anyone ever strives for. But he hit the ground and I was quickly able to deliver a follow up shot. That was the second deer I killed with a spine shot with stone.
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From: Will tell
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Date: 28-Jul-18 |
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That's a beauty.
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From: Penny Banks
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Date: 28-Jul-18 |
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There used to be a man on here named, I think, Ryan Gill who made and used knapped heads. Maybe YouTube.
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From: Bjrogg
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Date: 28-Jul-18 |
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Nice points and buck selfbow. I like that shape. I also agree with Murph, don't make em to wide.
Bjrogg
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From: tonto59
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Date: 28-Jul-18 |
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Good luck Will. That head looks like it will get the job done.
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From: tonto59
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Date: 28-Jul-18 |
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Congrats selfbow on a nice Buck. Well done.
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From: Jon Stewart
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Date: 29-Jul-18 |
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I took a doe with one of my stone points and a Northern Mist Baraga long bow. 7 yard shot and 40 yard recovery. I used a Flintridge stone point. I have been knapping around 8 years give or take a day or two.
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From: Danzn Bar
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Date: 29-Jul-18 |
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Nice looking bows "longbow49"... Here is my first with a stone point. Shot it at 13 yds from the ground. with an osgae self bow and river cane arrows I made . But the stone point was made by TRACY on PA. Thanks DBar
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From: Danzn Bar
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Date: 29-Jul-18 |
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Hers the point
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From: Shooter
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Date: 29-Jul-18 |
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You guys are to much. Great stuff thanks for sharing
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