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Tight nocks

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BACKYARD 25-Jul-18
A.S. 25-Jul-18
Pdiddly 25-Jul-18
Pdiddly 25-Jul-18
Mountain Man 25-Jul-18
Skeets 25-Jul-18
Pfranchise 25-Jul-18
SteveBNY 25-Jul-18
Tlhbow 25-Jul-18
Therifleman 25-Jul-18
Tracker7 25-Jul-18
Viper 25-Jul-18
BACKYARD 25-Jul-18
Mountain Man 25-Jul-18
M60gunner 25-Jul-18
PECO 25-Jul-18
Jim 25-Jul-18
JLBSparks 25-Jul-18
Longcruise 25-Jul-18
Franklin 25-Jul-18
RymanCat 25-Jul-18
Pdiddly 25-Jul-18
rpk@work 25-Jul-18
Mpdh 25-Jul-18
Frisky 25-Jul-18
Tlhbow 25-Jul-18
RymanCat 25-Jul-18
fdp 25-Jul-18
Tlhbow 25-Jul-18
Tlhbow 25-Jul-18
From: BACKYARD
Date: 25-Jul-18




Ways to adjust tight fitting arrow nocks? I soak in very hot water for a few seconds and nock the arrow and pinch it until it cools. Is there a better way to achieve proper fit? Thanks for your ideas.

From: A.S.
Date: 25-Jul-18




Have your string properly served to fit your nocks.....much better than altering your nocks.

From: Pdiddly
Date: 25-Jul-18




I too alter the nocks with boiling water...takes five minutes to do a dozen.

All my strings on my bows have the same serving diameter.

I use the same arrows on different bows. All aluminium and all cut to 28"...I tune by adjusting side plate and tip weight.

By adjusting the nocks the arrows then fit all the strings. C'est simple.

From: Pdiddly
Date: 25-Jul-18




I use boiling water as I don't think sanding them, as some do, is a good idea.

From: Mountain Man
Date: 25-Jul-18




Im with A.S.

Get a serving tool and reserve your bows to match your nocks Best way to get it right

From: Skeets
Date: 25-Jul-18




Wow! In Indiana we might shoot different arrows with different knocks. Can't reserve all the time the rabbit or pheasant would get away. Hot water or steam over a tea kettle works to adjust the knocks works fine for me.

From: Pfranchise
Date: 25-Jul-18




You guys are right, serving string to fit is the best way. Boiling or sanding the nocks can be inconsistent, you might sand or pinch one or two nocks more or less than the others. I have found nock fit to be one of the most important keys to tuning a bow and getting the arrow to fly properly. Serving strings is easy to learn, I think it would benefit any archer to learn how to do it.

From: SteveBNY
Date: 25-Jul-18




I'm with Allen. I've seen new nocks fail - would never shoot an altered one.

From: Tlhbow
Date: 25-Jul-18




I feel very sure nocks are inconsistent and I sand them to fit.

From: Therifleman
Date: 25-Jul-18




Been sanding them for years and have yet to see a nock fail. Recently picked up one of the Toelke nock fitting devices and it works very well. I have used very hot water to pinch down an oversize nock once or twice.

From: Tracker7
Date: 25-Jul-18




I use hot water to warm up the nocks, then I slide a piece of wood in the nock same dimension as my serving. I let the nocks cool and their new shape is retained, without having to sand them thinner. I believe they are a bit stronger this way. I used to sand them to fit.

From: Viper
Date: 25-Jul-18




Guys -

Just put a little thought into it. Get the right size string with the right size serving and nock fit stops being a problem. If you tell most GOOD custom string guys what nocks you're using, they should be able to make a string that fits - or just learn to make your own.

and btw - not all modern nocks respond to the hot water trick.

Viper out.

From: BACKYARD
Date: 25-Jul-18




Thanks to you all.Might learn to serve ,can't be to hard.Best way to remove the old one? My issue is that I have quite a few arrows I shoot from the same bow.Woodies,carbon and aluminum. I have an A&H acs that tolerates a wide variety of spine. I enjoy shooting different ones for some reason. They all use different nocks so my best bet is to stick to one type.

From: Mountain Man
Date: 25-Jul-18




This is how i serve my strings

I shoot only wood,but i use the same nocks on all sizes from 5/16th to 23/64th And i use same arrows for multiple bows Even with different string material B50-D97,etc all get served the same

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0hwQiKAWl2k

From: M60gunner
Date: 25-Jul-18




I inform who makes my strings what nocks I use. Usually I say Bohning glue on. That way I have no issues with GT, CE, or? If it’s a little loose that’s just fine.

From: PECO
Date: 25-Jul-18




Anyone use AccuNocks?

From: Jim Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 25-Jul-18




I'm with the group that says "just the serving size to fit the nock".

From: JLBSparks
Date: 25-Jul-18




No. 32 drill or a 3mm end mill, about 1000-1200 rpm.

-Joe

From: Longcruise
Date: 25-Jul-18




All my strings are the same diameter and all have loose nock fit. No, I've never dry fired with the loose fit.

I sure don't recommend this but that's just how I do it.

From: Franklin
Date: 25-Jul-18




It takes very little sanding to get a nock to fit...loosely fold the paper and make a couple of passes. Just like sharpening a knife....use the same amount strokes.

Remember these nocks are not made with the strictest of tolerances.

From: RymanCat
Date: 25-Jul-18




What ever happened to just bite down on nock to close up gap slightly if a little loose. I shoot so many different arrows that's what I have to do.

If you have double nock set there's no issues.

And if someone says oh that's no good you can break a nock. Not so fake news.

I never herd so much horse crap in my life.LOL

From: Pdiddly
Date: 25-Jul-18




My string builder is actually Allen Shafer, the second person who posted! And all of his strings have consistent serving. Same with strings I have from Barry Hughes.

I have dozens of bows with those strings but the serving is consistent and that's a constant I rely on.

However, I have dozens of arrows, and the nocks on the arrows do vary so it is far more efficent for me to adjust the nock gap. I'll go out and shoot three 50 lb draw bows at the range and sometimes use the same 1916 arrows in all three. I don't want to change the serving on each string and have to buy three dozen arrows, with one dozen for each bow with different diameter serving.

I simply refuse to accept that warming up a Bohning or Easton or other plastic nock in 200 degree water, then moving it a fraction of an inch in or out one time is going to affect its structural integrity.

For once I agree with RyKitty!!

From: rpk@work
Date: 25-Jul-18




I order the string to fit the nock, but I always seem to want to experiment with different arrows at some point.

When my nock is too tight, I use a one of those 2 sided cushioned Emory boards (for finger nails), with the same grit on both sides. Too loose, I'll pinch it with my fingers or do the boiling water if needed.

15-20 years of this and no nock fails yet.

From: Mpdh
Date: 25-Jul-18




I’ve used all of the methods mentioned so far for nocks that are a little tighter than I like. Never had a problem with nocks after doing it.

But I have purchased strings that my nocks fit very tight, and for those I reserved them to fit.

MP

From: Frisky
Date: 25-Jul-18




I've been using the hot water method for 16 years. Not a failure to speak of. I dip the nock ears for 3 to 5 seconds only.

Joe

From: Tlhbow
Date: 25-Jul-18




Rpk that Emory board sounds like a good trick. Will have to try that one. I usually fold sand paper over my string.

From: RymanCat
Date: 25-Jul-18




Theres no way you can get string served to match up all the various nocks on several types of nocks on arrows unless you only shoot one type of nock!

All my bows shoot all sorts of arrows and have various different types of nocks such as with aluminum or the woods. Whats so hard about this all?

All these speculation scenarios is ridicules and not required. Sanding nocks I never in my life ever herd such a thing like this before.

Maybe switch to double nocks sets and a little pinch on the nock. If you really have to open one up then use a knife or screw driver.

From: fdp
Date: 25-Jul-18




I shoot the same nock on all my arrows. Not that big a deal.

From: Tlhbow
Date: 25-Jul-18




Rymancat prying the throat open with knife or screw driver ,one side tends too give first. crooked arrow flight. I don't think nocks are perfect so a little sanding doesn't hurt.

From: Tlhbow
Date: 25-Jul-18




Another trick after sanding is to use a heavy material, webbelt or plum line string too smooth it back out. No kidding LoL.





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